Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #952 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 952 Wednesday, 6 March 2002 Today's Topics: The Spirituality of this Fripp Re: good music BILFORD CHRONOLOGY Re: Some thoughts about The Toxic Tome Re: lyrics etc. Sid Smith Lament; women musicians; Fripp on stage; Fallen Angel; Tony Levin in 20th Century Guitar magazine. Re: Some Thoughts on the Toxic Tome B'Boom or VROOOM VROOOM OT: Visiting Spain Song parodies, Crimso style! Some folks don't like King Crimson... Gnosis Levin piece UK Prog Random Hits, Part 37 Re: 5/4 / Least favorite KC Great internet-radio Re: Song parodies, Crimso style! 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ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.7b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 20:25:47 +1100 From: "stilano briggs" Subject: The Spirituality of this Fripp In regards to the spiritual practice of a certain Mr R Fripp it is not possible to say. For spirit has very little to do with words. Spiritual development is something of a personal venture. Having said this, Mr Fripp did (it is reported by Mr Tamm) undertake studies with a Mr J G Bennett. If one wished to catch a comfortable glimpse of the philisophical ideas of Mr Bennett one might wish to undertake a reading of 'The Dramatic Universe Vol I-IV'. Or one may even undertake a perusal of the 'All and Everything Series' by the said forementioned Mr Gurdjieff. Having said this, I would also recommend (with furrowed brow) that one do one's own WORK. If one attempts to remember to remember you may begin to understand why Mr Fripp has attempted the things that he has and inturn understand a little more about what is needed for the future. And then again maybe not... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:11:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Kevin Marriott Subject: Re: good music Just a few comments regarding Barbara's post (ET 948) on 'good music'. (A deliberate flame? Possibly :-)) It is, of course, a wild assumption to make a suggestion as to *how* a Prog fan (or anyone, for that matter) listens to music. The process of listening to music is a pretty complex business, and implying that the reason a person enjoys a particular piece of music is somehow wrong probably says more about the accuser than the accused, anyway. Is Prog self-glorifying? Good question. Is Fripp/KC self-glorifying? I would say not. But is Fripp Prog? I have no idea. Frankly, I couldn't care less. Is Malmsteen Prog? I've never thought so. Is Malmteeen not 'expressive'? Better ask him. Personally, I do enjoy the music of King Crimson, Soft Machine etc, and to a lesser extent people like Yes, and I don't believe that I like this music *because* of a need for technical proficiency. I like complex/strange/interesting music, and it just so happens that it is sometimes difficult to play. Who cares? Actually, I do think that it is intersting to discuss the technical aspects of music, and these aspects are sometimes more complex than in Pop music, but that's not why I listen. I like Pop too, but usually in the context of something else (the Beatles or KC for example). I need something substantial to keep my attention: 'difficult' music. It is certainly wrong to suggest that music is not about X, it's about 'writing pop songs'. Clearly, there are lots of different types of music which convey different emotions and have different ethical codes etc. Pop, whilst great, is not the be-all and end-all. I wonder why you are listening to John Williams et al if you say people should only play Pop. For a reasoned discussion of the validity of Prog/prog, check out 'Progressive Rock Reconsidered' by Kevin Holm-Hudson. (Amazon had it last time I looked). ===== -- Kev "These go to 11" - Nigel Tufnel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:01:35 -0500 From: "MALCOLM XERXES" Subject: BILFORD CHRONOLOGY As for Asia, well Gordon, I think you have missed the point completely. Let's face it, Asia was a cash cow, nothing more, nothing less. CHRIS, While I own none of their music, but have recorded videos & purchased an ASTRA poster, I think that your dismissal is somewhat facile, as there have been some good songs on their albums, despite the fact that they were written expressly for the commercial marketplace, counter to the respective players' ART ROCK origins & virtuosity. There a plenty of outstanding musicians - and quite a few KC members among them - who have resorted to the lowest common denominator to keep the bank balance healthy. The Americans have always had a great respect for Capitalism, but I maintain that it is possible to make the music one wants to make, while maintaining a commercial presence, as KRIMSON did with BEAT (HEARTBEAT) & 30APP (SLEEPLESS Extended Mixes & video). Bill Bruford is always credited with getting out of Yes before they really lost the plot and drowned in a topographic ocean. However, he played with Genesis in the post-Gabriel era You say that like it was a negative thing! The single GENESIS album I own is SECONDS OUT, which was a gift from a stalker who thought that she could buy my favours through seeming to share my tastes. and was also around the place when Yes recorded a truly appalling record called "Union" at the end of the 1980's. I acknowledge that BILFORD calls it YES: "ONION" - so do I! - but I think the album is nearly perfect but for the fact that it has the unfortunate SAVING MY HEART, and does not include lyrics. Having said that, if BB didn't participate in "Union" and the subsequent tour chances are Earthworks may never have happened...and that would have been a tragedy. BILFORD had recorded & toured with EARTHWORKS since 1987, and would have continued to do so, regardless of other commitments between then & now. Like BB, John Wetton, with the right personnel around him, is a class act. BILFORD "is a class act" even when he is NOT surrounded by other "personnel", which is why he has commanded my unflagging respect, even when he is at his most openly facetious. Viewing his many contributions to programmes like ROCKSCHOOL, interviews in YESYEARS, et cetera, are both entertaining & informative in ways that other players only fantasise about, and I believe that BILFORD'S erudition is partly what drew "THIS FRIPP" to him, and what annoys him, too, just as people have claimed about "THIS FRIPP" himself. KRIMSON'S ferrous content has never been low! MX "OUTLAW" http://www.malcolmxerxes.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 11:15:54 -0800 From: Ralph Foster Subject: Re: Some thoughts about The Toxic Tome Ryan Tassone: >2. Re: Timekeeping. The sections regarding the Fripp-Bruford >disagreements >got me wondering...so I went back and listened to the middle of >"Starless" at Central Park '74, and found Bill's time was indeed very >halting and usually just behind the beat. This, I can understand Fripp >being cross about; but I can't find anything in the 80's Crim rhythm >section that I'd change. Bill had a vocabulary of unique sounds and >patterns that seemed to compliment the whole gamelan style of >composition perfectly. Fripp commented about Bruford "playing against >the grain," which I found strange, when you compare it to Fripp's >lauding of Pat Mastelotto's approach (p. 300): "It's the Crimson Drummer >Virus at work! If everyone else is on the beat, why should the drummer >be?" And come to think of it, Pat does some pretty fancy polyrhythmic >stuff, having learned from BB in much the way BB learned from Muir. And >now that PM has acoustic drums back in the equation, what could Fripp >possibly have! to say about Bruford concerning their differences? I've been waiting somewhat impatiently for this book to hit the local bookstores, so I obviously haven't read it yet. But, the Fripp/Bruford pairing is, I think, one of the most interesting collaborations in rock. I get the impression that they have a lot of respect for each other, but have clashing egos. However, I think the versions of King Crimson that have both are far and away the most interesting and mind-blowing. I don't know much about the technical side of music, but you can easily hear the tension between Fripp's sense of time and Bruford's. I've always felt that this tension adds a LOT to the dynamics of the sound. I like the current lineup, but I feel that they really don't have the same "dynamical range" (in some abstract sense) as even the 6-piece band. Which is a bit surprising since you'd expect that with more room for each member to breathe it'd be easier to find the range. But it isn't there. (However, the Level Five CD is the best I've heard from the new band and I'd never pass up a chance to see KC or any of the solo projects.) Some of the best rock music is produced by bands where the personal side of things has completely broken down. I don't think it's necessary for the band members to even like each other, as long as they can handle getting together to play. But, even the best musicians can lose a lot by dropping the people they play best with. I think that Bruford was one of the most key members of King Crimson and one that is sorely missed. At least Belew and Fripp have worked out a great collaboration so I don't expect to have to lament his loss as well. If only Tony Levin could get back in .... -- Ralph Foster Applied Physics Laboratory 1013 NE 40th St.; Seattle, WA; 98105-6698 ralph at apl dot washington dot edu; voice: (206) 685-5201; fax: (206) 543-6785 Alt: Box 355640, University of Washington; Seattle, WA, 98195-5640 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:27:08 EST From: Cohortrec at aol dot com Subject: Re: lyrics etc. About the quality of lyrics and the penis ref., have you heard of the word "joke" or "irony"? Relax. There are more ways to be funny than the overt behavior of a standup comic. Words in music should be taken in their context. I've always seen the ref. to "reading too much Elephant Talk" to be a swipe at this very list. Ironic yes, but funny as well. Too many people taking this much too seriously. It's only music after all. Something to be enjoyed but not a necessity of life when it comes right down to it. After all, I'd rather have a good night's sleep or a good session with my wife if I had to choose. John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:36:52 -0300 (ART) From: Ronald Miklos Subject: Sid Smith Hi Ryan Tassone wrote >5. I wonder why Smith went through the trouble of picking apart the > McDonald-Giles album piece by piece, and only made >a passing mention of the ProjeKcts. I was left >wanting to know more about the whole experience of >fraKctalising, improvising, and so forth... Well, I do not know the reasons myself, but the Projekcts had so much written about, also including notes from Fripp, Gunn and Mastelloto. Developing of ideas, the way they played,etc. Maybe Sid had the idea that such detailed analysis would have sound repetitive. As for McDonald & Giles, IMHO, it is a very good album, recorded during the a very unique rock'n'roll period and it deserves the proper attention. I'm glad to be the owner of a original LP and have been listening to it ever since it was bought (1975) Ronald Vogel (Brazil) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:35:23 -0800 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: Lament; women musicians; Fripp on stage; Fallen Angel; >I don't know if it's just me but Lament is one of my fav Crimso songs of all time...what do you all think? Am I just odd? Let me know.... When I first heard the song, when it first came out, I was absolutely delighted with it. The first two songs on the album brought me into the album - those were the two I always listened to every time I got it out. Now, when I go back to that album, I go back to both of the bombers on Side 2 (Starless and Bible Black improv, and Fracture). >So, are there any women vocalists or musicians out there today that would add some interest to the current band? Yes. >My question is this: I saw King Crimson live for the first time fairly recently, and noticed that Robert Fripp's behavior on stage is rather unconventional, as I'm sure anyone reading this knows - facing the band, looking inconspicuous, etc. That's not a question! >So, why then? Is there any purpose or conscious intent to it? That's two questions. The answer to the second question is Yes. >I suspect that certain band members agree with my assessment, since I seem to remember that "Fallen Angel" is one of a very, very short list of KC songs that have never been publicly performed. Fallen Angel was never performed publicly (in the form that it appears on Red) because John Wetton became a member of a non-band shortly after it was finally composed and recorded. >And to all you "I'm a musician and I know" wanna be's out there. Check with me before you go assuming the throne. OK Mr. Bach! Great to see JSB as a member of this list. - S. np: KC at Plymouth Guildhall 1971 scottst at ohsu dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:11:42 -0600 (CST) From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN Subject: Tony Levin in 20th Century Guitar magazine. The February 2002 issue of 20th Century Guitar magazine features an interview with Tony Levin, discussing his new album and his bass collection. Just above the UPC code it says to display the issue until March 15th, so it should still be available at a shop near you, assuming there is one. According to their website www.tcguitar.com the March issue will feature Adrian Belew, assuming of course it hasn't already hit the stands in some markets. tim gueguen 101867 NP: MoogWorldOne mp3 feed www.moogworld.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:17:49 -0600 (CST) From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN Subject: Re: Some Thoughts on the Toxic Tome > > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 23:09:38 -0500 > From: "Ryan Tassone" > Subject: Some thoughts about The Toxic Tome. > 4. I'm curious, simply for fanatical reasons, what Fripp's > religious/spiritual ideas are, other than those involving discipline or > "redemption." The footnote about his involvement in Wicca interested > me, as did his following the teachings of Gurdjieff, a theosophist who > claimed to have had visitations from Tibetan Masters. My gut tells me > he is probably more Western than Eastern in his thinking, but I'd like > to learn more. > You can learn some details on Gurdjieff, JG Bennett, and Fripp's relation to their teachings from Eric Tamm's book Robert Fripp: From King Crimson to Guitar Craft, which is currently available online from www.geocities.com/pitkin_family/tammfripp.html tim gueguen 101867 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:36:59 -0800 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: B'Boom or VROOOM VROOOM >I've recently purchased the double cd "B'Boom", from 1994 in Argentina. Having this, would it be worth it to buy "Vrooom Vrooom" from last year? Yes. B'Boom is good but VROOOM VROOOM is indispensable. - S. np: KC, 3 of a PP scottst at ohsu dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 23:15:29 -0500 From: Tom Law Subject: OT: Visiting Spain This is WAY off topic, so I hope nobody minds... I'm going to Southern Spain in early June with wife and friends, and would love to hear from any readers who can offer information regarding live music in that area at that time. Besides KC, I'm into early, folk, modern, etc. (you get the idea) musics. I figured this group might contain some like-minded listeners. Please respond by private email to tomlaw at wplawinc dot com. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 02:10:12 EST From: GottaJibbootwo at aol dot com Subject: Song parodies, Crimso style! I was driving around today and heard that "Gangsta's paradise" song flipping through the radio, and couldn't help but think of Weird Al's parody of it. So that got me thinking, wouldn't it be grand if I did my own parodies of Crimson songs? And thus, I present to you, my parodies of the King Crimson songs Dinosaur, Model Man, and One Time. Those were the easiest terrain for lampooning, lyric-wise. Dinosaur long ago and far away in a distant school when I was a clean young man polaroid photos of that gym then illustrate what a dirty place that must've been standing in the halls grafitti on the walls what a big predicament I'm a janitor somebody dirtied these floors cleanliness has always been something I excell in followed by my skills with mops and brooms doesn't take a custodian to see how any grime or stain could not last a day with me standing in the halls grafitti on the walls what a great predicament I'm a janitor somebody dirtied these floors ooh when I look back at the past it's a wonder that I cleaned those sinks all the halls that I've swept and dirty toilets I've seen nearly made me make a stink it doesn't hurt to be too clean is the one thing I have learned still I've done my dirty deeds and prepare for next week I'm a janitor, somebody dirtied these floors Mini -Van I look for my keys I look for my wallet pull onto the road driving to the store I hit the brakes cuz I see the signal I am so proud of my foreign car not a mini van not a coupe or a sedan no four wheel drive or antilock brakes but it takes me where I need to go it is made in Japan... One Mime One mime goes laughing one mime goes crying because people hate watching one mime One mime has tried One mime is trying to entertain these people for one time and my head is about to pop waiting for the miming to stop waiting for the bastard to drop one mime and I wish this were much less lame it's driving me quickly insane hoping for and end to this pain one mime So there they are, and I don't know if this sort of thing has been done before or not, but hey, it's fun. I'd also like to see other people's parodies of songs...perhaps "21st Century Businessman", "In the Court of the Burger King", or "Into the Celing Fan"? Who knows? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:30:59 +1100 From: "Random Cool" Subject: Some folks don't like King Crimson... Some folks don't like King Crimson: It's true. There are a few people who don't admire and respect the music of Mr Fripp & co. I'm not one, but my mother is. Now, my dear mum is very talented with music. She runs a church choir, and a Choral Society, and teaches; she can read complex music by sight, and can transpose with a rare acuity. But she doesn't like most of King Crimson. In the mid-70's I introduced her to Trio from S&BB. She claimed it sounded like three barely competent musicians each playing a different tune. Now, this is interesting... I've lately googled up a midi file of Trio, and played it through Noteworthy Composer, one staff at a time. Except in small parts, any one staff does not represent the gist of the whole product, in the way that a piece tends to have a dominant instrument that defines the work. She could tolerate The Night Watch, but thought the violin was not in tune...nor the vocals sung in sync with the music. In the 80's I'd get home from my restaurant job late at night. One night I popped in my travelling-tape of the wonderful bootleg LP Un Reve sans Consequence Speciale, donned my big chunky headphones, and lay down in the dark to savour it, loudly. After The Mincer and The Talking Drum, and an almighty Lark's Tongue and Exiles, Easy Money had just started and I was startled to be shaken alert, by none other than mum! I took off the headphones, and was stunned still to be hearing a very loud King Crimson. The amp had AB, A, B, and 0 settings [just like blood groups, no?] for the speakers, and I'd not switched it far enough. She looked pale and shaken, said she couldn't stand it any more and had to interrupt my midnight music. Maybe Schizoid Man would have sent her over the edge. The chef at work, for that matter, called KC (and most of what I played there!) Suicide Music. (He's since died. No apparent cause & effect.) To her credit, and my delight, my mother quite likes the instrumental tracks from Cheerful Insanity, and a couple of songs also from P.Sinfield's Still album. I'm bit by bit bringing mellow bits of Fripp & Eno her way. It may seem strange, but mum likes Tuning Piece from Islands. She says it reminds her of her learning days in the 1940's 50's and the fun & games of orchestra practice. The chef liked the Silence that preceded it! It must be rare, but does anyone else know folks who do not enjoy King Crimson...? Random C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:58:48 -0600 From: "Christian Hess Araya" Subject: Gnosis Hi, all. KC fans (and prog rock lovers in general) might want to check out the ongoing Gnosis project at http://gnosis2000.net. They have this rather complex grading system for rating the best prog albums of all time. KC currently rings in at number 7 with LTIA (after, for the curious, Il Balletto di Bronzo's "Ys", Banco del Mutuo Soccorso's "Darwin!", Genesis' "Selling England by the Pound", Yes' "Close to the Edge", Van der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts", and Banco again with "Io Sono Nato Libero"). Enjoy, Christian Hess San Jose, Costa Rica ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:00:33 -0500 From: Michael Bennett Subject: Levin piece Toby, I found this and thought I'd pass it along... The Life and Art of Bass Playing by Tony Levin In the beginning there was a bass. It was a Fender, probably a Precision, but it could have been a Jazz - nobody knows. Anyway, it was very old... definitely pre-C.B.S. And God looked down upon it and saw that it was good. He saw that it was very good in fact, and couldn't be improved on at all (though men would later try.) And so He let it be and He created a man to play the bass. And lo the man looked upon the bass, which was a beautiful 'sunburst' red, and he loved it. He played upon the open E string and the note rang through the earth and reverberated throughout the firmaments (thus reverb came to be.) And it was good. And God heard that it was good and He smiled at his handiwork. Then in the course of time, the man came to slap upon the bass. And lo it was funky. And God heard this funkiness and He said, "Go man, go." And it was good. And more time passed, and, having little else to do, the man came to practice upon the bass. And lo, the man came to have upon him a great set of chops. And he did play faster and faster until the notes rippled like a breeze through the heavens. And God heard this sound which sounded something like the wind, which He had created earlier. It also sounded something like the movement of furniture, which He hadn't even created yet, and He was not so pleased. And He spoke to the man, saying "Don't do that!" Now the man heard the voice of God, but he was so excited about his new ability that he slapped upon the bass a blizzard of funky notes. And the heavens shook with the sound, and the Angels ran about in confusion. (Some of the Angels started to dance, but that's another story.) And God heard this - how could He miss it - and lo He became Bugged. And He spoke to the man, and He said, "Listen man, if I wanted Jimi Hendrix I would have created the guitar. Stick to the bass parts." And the man heard the voice of God, and he knew not to mess with it. But now he had upon him a passion for playing fast and high. The man took the frets off of the bass which God had created. And the man did slide his fingers upon the fretless fingerboard and play melodies high upon the neck. And, in his excitement, the man did forget the commandment of the Lord, and he played a frenzy of high melodies and blindingly fast licks. And the heavens rocked with the assault and the earth shook, rattled and rolled. Now God's wrath was great. And His voice was thunder as He spoke to the man. And He said, "O.K. for you, pal. You have not heeded My word. Lo, I shall create a soprano saxophone and it shall play higher than you can even think of." "And from out of the chaos I shall bring forth the drums. And they shall play so many notes thine head shall ache, and I shall make you to always stand next to the drummer." "You think you're loud? I shall create a stack of Marshall guitar amps to make thine ears bleed. And I shall send down upon the earth other instruments, and lo, they shall all be able to play higher and faster than the bass." "And for all the days of man, your curse shall be this; that all the other musicians shall look to you, the bass player, for the low notes. And if you play too high or fast all the other musicians shall say "Wow" but really they shall hate it. And they shall tell you you're ready for your solo career, and find other bass players for their bands. And for all your days if you want to play your fancy licks you shall have to sneak them in like a thief in the night." "And if you finally do get to play a solo, everyone shall leave the bandstand and go to the bar for a drink." And it was so. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:52:37 +0000 From: Mr Tea Subject: UK Prog Random Hits, Part 37 Disney channel is currently running a trailer for their computer animated film 'Dinosaur', that prominently features a King Crimson track. Guess which one. My amazement at hearing ripping KC riffs emanating from the Disney channel was on a par with the shock of finding out a few years back that ELPs 'Karn Evil 9' had resurfaced as the theme tune to a family quiz show called 'The Generation Game'. Go, prog, go! Mr Tea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:07:19 -0700 (MST) From: checkman Subject: Re: 5/4 / Least favorite KC Lewis W Beard wrote: > Which KC (or Yes or ...) tunes would qualify as 5/4? "Mars" (from Gustav Holst's Planets suite) is in 5/4, so that means "The Devi's Triangle" is also 5/4 8-). I can't think of any other KC-related examples -- I'm about 3 miles from my CD collection at the moment -- but "Take Five" by Dave Brubeck is also in 5/4. Frank Zappa loved weird time signatures -- he said that a tune written in 17/35 made him "want to dance". "Watermelon in Easter Hay" alternates between bars of 5/4 and 4/4; "Thirteen" (from one of the You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore albums) alternates between 5/4 and 8/8. And I've written a few things in 5/4, but virtually no one has heard them 8-). Okay, now: MY least favorite KC songs? Probably "Two Hands", for lyrical reasons; the last 3 or 4 tracks of _Thrak_ ("Vrooom Vrooom", "Vrooom Vrooom Coda", "Vrooom Vrooom Vrooom", etc, which seem to drag the album past its ending point). I'm still not sure about _TCOL_; the first time I listened to it, I thought it had been recorded by a "metal" band, with the heavy bass and drums. -- Christopher Heckman P.S. I still don't see my transcription of "The Sun Is Shining" on the Tab page ... So what if it was composed by Giles instead of Fripp? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 22:23:06 +0100 From: "Van Polly uit St. Paul's"

Subject: Great internet-radio I thought it better to notify you all: I've just discovered www.3wk.com on which there are three radiostations. The 3WK Classic Undergroundradio plays an awful lot of Crimson and other great music as well. I don't have anything to do with the station. I'm just an enthusiastic listener! Paul Logman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:36:19 EST From: GottaJibbootwo at aol dot com Subject: Re: Song parodies, Crimso style! Also, disregard my title for the Dinosaur parody, it should read "Janitor" instead of Dinosaur. Oops. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:47:08 -0500 From: "Josh Chasin" Subject: Arguments! What is everybody's list of five least favoite topics to see ET readers compile lists of? Here's mine; it was murder whittling the list down to five: 1. Least favorite KC song 2. Most favorite KC song 3. Best player on a particular instrument 4. Bands who do or don't qualify as "prog" 5. Lists of least favorite list topics. So-- what are yours? ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #952 ********************************