E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 871 Saturday September 1, 2001 Today's Topics: Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Tool King Crmison playing in Brazil for the first time Ken Burns' Jazz correction Fripp throwing stuff Bill Bruford Interview password problem at King Crimson TV site Nonexistent Tour Dates in Southamerica Bears New CD review 4 KC stuff for sale or trade Lessing and Fripp Level 5 Nuovo Metal? fripp as lyricist 24 bit Discipline re-master defect? [OT] Daevid Allen's University of Errors The Moon Lady (reprise 1991) Live Groove / Club 17 comparison TYPO: Moon Lady post GIG REVIEW: Gig Review CGT with Levin and Mastelloto in Salt Lake GIG REVIEW: Mexico,Mexico... ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.htm You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is temporarily being produced using Cheetah PRO Mailing Systems (c) Black Cat Software Factory (info at blackcat dot demon dot co dot uk) ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Thursday, 23 Aug 2001 17:46:55 From: lincoln at flatlinesystems dot net (Lincoln McCormick) Subject: Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Tool > Tool? > My girlfriend loves them. > Im not particularly fond of vicarious anger so I observed.I thought > they booted Peter Gabriel from Genesis for coming onstage like that. Yeah, and what happened when he left? Peter Gabriel went on to write "The Rhythm of the Heat" and "Here Comes the Flood", while Collins' Genesis came up with such brilliant masterpieces as "Invisible Touch", "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" and "I Can't Dance". Yes, I think we can all be quite sure where the talent did, does, and always will lie. Lucky for your sensetive sensibilities that Tool never plays their angriest, loudest songs live (e.g. "Jimmy", "Hooker with a Penis", "Ticks & Leeches"). ~ As full and bright as I am This light is not my own ~ - Tool Lincoln McCormick lincoln at flatlinesystems dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 23 Aug 2001 15:03:37 From: arkham at indiscipline dot net (Joey Aguilera) Subject: King Crmison playing in Brazil for the first time I still don't understand why so many Crimson fans demand answers of the band. Why should Mr. Fripp give you more than what he has already given you. oooO ( ) \ ( Joey Aguilera \_) http://www.indiscipline.net/fripp/ ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 23 Aug 2001 17:28:39 From: vdorje at ev1 dot net (Craig) Subject: Ken Burns' Jazz correction <<King Crimson takes the stage exactly at 7:00 P.M. Fripp throw a white >powder, but not that one :( Does R.F. throw salt on the stage Sumo style before entering the "ring"? That is soooooo kul! BTW, my new favorite KC song is "They laugh. Who? Jim did". Also-If T. Levin is the official "5th Crim", is Christina Aguilera the 6th? ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 23 Aug 2001 23:19:50 From: alford dot darryl at ssd dot loral dot com (Darryl E. Alford) Subject: Bill Bruford Interview Greetings, There is a rather interesting Bill Bruford interview here: http://www.netradio.com/channels/index.cfm?channel_moniker=progressiverock NetRadio's John Michaels interviews Bill. Not much in the way of new information, but Bill does speak rather enthusiastically about his drumming collaboration in King Crimson with Pat Mastelotto. Please excuse me if this has been previously mentioned, and I am late for the train. Rock longa, vita brevis Darryl ------------------------------ Date: Friday, 24 Aug 2001 17:11:23 From: Micrael at aol dot com Subject: password problem at King Crimson TV site I cannot access the King Crimson TV site in order to receive the password to open the concert page on the Heavy ConstruKction CD. I receive a "Bad Gateway" message. Does anyone have a solution? Thanks. Mike np: Geoffrey Oryema, "Exile" ------------------------------ Date: Friday, 24 Aug 2001 19:15:05 From: dmahser at cantv dot net (Daniel Mahseredjian) Subject: Nonexistent Tour Dates in Southamerica On ET Newsletter #869 Robert Fripp, VRHL wrote: "....The key word is "dream": King Crimson are not playing any dates in Central or South America..." Just a simple question: Why such an ironic way to treat the information about the veracity of the tour dates in SouthAmerica? Oh yes, I know every musician has the right to decide where to play and where not to play. Fortunately enough, King Crimson as an entity can make great music and we as listeners have the option of not to care about the empathy and other spiritual conditions of the human persons that make the music. And in the case we do care, then we have the right of not to listen to the music, and go somewhere else to look for valid artistic proposals, according to our needs. No hard feelings, it's just a shame to realize certain things. Daniel Mahseredjian Caracas, Venezuela ------------------------------ Date: Saturday, 25 Aug 2001 13:26:41 From: Hocow at aol dot com Subject: Bears New CD review Hi, Justin requested some input on the new Bears so here goes. If you already like and are familiar with the Bears, go for it. The best songs aren't as good as my faves on the first two but there are definitely some good tunes here. If you are one of those who want Adrian to leave Crimson so they can get Geddy Lee or Bryan Ferry or Rik Ocasek on vocals, don't bother. If you think he makes Crimson too poppy you'll really hate this. I really like Ade's guitar work in this Beatleish pop setting. Where he is one of 3 vocalists here, he gets to do a lot of that fun whacked out guitar stuff he started with. Also, there are a lot of guitar parts I credit to Ade that may be Rob Fetters who is also capeble of making strangling cat noises. The song Fripp guests on is very nice. If you go to the Bears site the short sample that comes up is a loop from this cut. Fripp does a very nice melodic solo, nice sustain and distortion break up. My faves are Life In A Nutshell, Under The Volcano, Dave (the song with Fripp), and Safe In Hell. There are 2 or 3 dogs but you may hate the ones I like and like the ones I think are dogs. I didn't mention the other members enough because this is a Crimson site. The Bears are a band not a Belew solo project. The vocal mixture is one of the strengths of this band and that's because there are three distinctive voices blending together. Hope this info is helpful. Brad Wilmot ------------------------------ Date: Sunday, 26 Aug 2001 13:56:22 From: the_unifaun at hotmail dot com (Marcus Enochsson) Subject: 4 Hello people! i. I recently remembered some of my first impression of the Crimson King and how they made me think that KC was an occult and devlish band. The first Crimson music I heard was through the phone when I was speaking to my brother. Not familiar with much stranger music then Floyd and Beatles, my virgin ears were very curious about the Thrakkatakking I heard in the background. I asked if he could make me a tape of it. "Well," he said "I don't think our dear parents would be happy if you played that kind of music at home". He made me a tape of some 70s prog music instead, which got me into odder and odder music. Eventually I got Discipline, my first whole KC encounter, and it was very interesting music to me. One phrase that caught me much was from the Thela talking: "He held a god in his hand", a phrase that kind of scared me, and made me wonder what kind of band this Satan/Belzebub/Crimson King really was. Much later I read the lyrics, and realised that it was a gun and not a god in Belews hand. Still, it made an impression, and probably contributed to my eagerness to find out more about this legendary band, that I read of everywhere on the mailing lists I was on. Any other mishearing that have meant something to somebody out there? ii. I am not stupid. In a recent ET newsletter I contributed with a gig review called "From the ears of the Toolmen", in which I referred to some KC related extracts from Tool fans reviews. When I read the newsletter it appeared that the long list of extracts understandably had been edited out. However, there was no note of it being an edited post. While I understand and appreciate that the posts are edited to better fit the overall goals of the ET community, I also recommend that a little bracketed note from the editor would explain that the post has been edited, to make the poster look less stupid. If that would help in my case is however something I'd rather let external parties discuss. [ The post that appeared in ET was what was submitted - it was not edited at all. I've just checked your posts against what appeared in ET and they are exactly the same. Posts are generally not 'edited' for inclusion in ET. They are either included or not included. -- Mike ] iii. I waved my firstly met ET-er goodbye yesterday, on the train heading towards Kastrup, the airport of Copenhagen, capitol of Sweden. For the past week the Austrian ET dude Markus Gnad has been occupying my room, which I think is kind of cool. For a year and some time we've been mailing, chatting and stuffing to the most various degrees of intensity. So when I for the first time met an ET dude for real it was a great moment, and it was instantly quite apparent that the week would be a great one. Lots of music, beer, music, beer, music and beer. We both like music and beer, by the way. So a big THANK YOU to the ET team and our often favourite band, King Crimson, for half-unintentionally helping people meet people with shared interests! iv. I strongly advice you to check out my two newest songs on www.mp3.com/zealous as they happen to be great. I hope you can bear with me as I promote myself, but I think that I am getting closer and closer to point B in my writing and recording, and would be grateful to hear others confirm or deny that fact. The two songs are actually seagued together, but appear as two files. "The fall, the call and the feeling" has a very catchy chorus to almost a west coast degree. The second one, "Nothing is enough" is a capturing riff+chord change, encapsuled in a soundscape/ambient thing, bowing before the ever beautiful Norbert Fragg/Irben Noa soundscape collaborations. Cheers, Marcus PS. If it makes you feel any better, feel free to correct me about Copenhagen being the capitol of Sweden. However it is, though not often. Just ask me or Bombert Fritz, we know better. ------------------------------ Date: Monday, 27 Aug 2001 11:19:35 From: alecosentino at hotmail dot com (Alejandro Cosentino) Subject: KC stuff for sale or trade Hi from Buenos Aires (rainy and cold today) I've got some Crimson stuff for sale (better) or trade (why not): - King Crimson : THRAKATTAK digipack with poster - King Crimson : B'Boom 2cd set - King Crimson : Cirkus 2cd set vinyl replica - King Crimson : Beat - King Crimson : Three Of A Perfect Pair All of them are european editions in extremely excellent condition. You can contact me at alecosentino at hotmail dot com Thank you very much. [ Replies by e-mail only, please! -- Mike ] ------------------------------ Date: Monday, 27 Aug 2001 17:14:30 From: mrtea at mac dot com (Mr Tea) Subject: Lessing and Fripp Wow! Robert Fripp and Doris Lessing! Surely a match made in heaven! Kudos to Mark (mark at junklight dot com - ET 870) for tracking down the RF namecheck on a Doris Lessing fan site (http://www.paraethos.com/library/shikasta.htm), but what does it mean !?!? Has Fripp written any pieces based on Lessing's work (as Mark's quote suggests), or is it just that someone spotted RF reading one of her novels on the tour bus? The fact that RF's name is mentioned alongside that of Philip Glass (composer of two operas based on Lessing's books) suggests the former, but Google couldn't turn up any trace of a Fripp/Lessing collaboration, and there's nothing obvious in my extensive library of Fripp-related albums. Please, please - if anyone here can shed light on this tantalising snippet of info, make yourselves known immediately! Thanks. Mr Tea -- Brew of the day: Darjeeling ------------------------------ Date: Monday, 27 Aug 2001 12:38:03 From: erikv at vargaresearch dot com (Erik Varga) Subject: Level 5 I was listening to 'The Repercussions of Angelic Behavior' CD from 'Rieflin, Fripp, Gunn' this morning and heard something familiar... Has anyone else noticed that Track 8 is the same guitar riff as the new King Crimson piece: Level 5 ? ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 29 Aug 2001 03:50:48 From: good1 at pacbell dot net (Marc J Goodman) Subject: Nuovo Metal? The recent discussions regarding KC's labeling of its recent musical output as "Nuovo Metal" jarred my memory of Spaces, my old band in the 80's calling the kind of music we played "Nuevo". Of course, New Wave was still happening back then...We were funny guys...Things have changed... Of course, this has very little to do with KC. It's late and I need to sleep... Happy Anniversary ET! Thanks Dan, Toby and Mike. I read every issue cover to cover. (Well, mostly...) [ Thanks for that -- Mike ] BTW, was that a misprint in #369- Toby said, >>"We started out as "Discipline" on 19 August 1981, with 24 subscribers."<< Musta been late then, too. Marc J Goodman ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 30 Aug 2001 03:25:16 From: okeenan at railaccess dot com dot au (Keenan, Owen) Subject: fripp as lyricist Quick quiz time! *Name all the songs for which RF was lyricist... and has he every sung on record?* 1st 4 correct answers win a years subscription to ET! Good luck, O! ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 29 Aug 2001 20:25:55 From: fjb71 at yahoo dot com (Glenn Longmuir) Subject: 24 bit Discipline re-master defect? I've gone through 3 brand new copies of the gatefold 24bit remaster of Discipline (made in Holland) and each one has skipped on track 6; The Sheltering Sky. There are no visible surface defects and I've tried it on 3 different cd players with no luck. Has anyone else had this problem? Are the jewelcase versions from a different pressing? ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 30 Aug 2001 09:54:59 From: spearman at hotmail dot com (Spear man) Subject: [OT] Daevid Allen's University of Errors Anyone on this list catch the recent Daevid Allen University of Errors gig in NYC? Apparently they've been continuing with their 21st century Schizoid cover and added Island jams as well. --spearman ------------------------------ Date: Friday, 31 Aug 2001 20:29:45 From: brianarnold at flatearthstudio dot com (Brian Arnold) Subject: The Moon Lady (reprise 1991) Yo Talkies, If I am not mistaken, I was the original poster to the Elephant Talk newsletter in August 1991, back when it was called Discipline, as ba0k while attending CMU. Although I've had little to do with ET since then, I'm still kicking as a fan. I've long since moved on to fetishize such persons as Steve Tibbetts (who is God), and Marc Anderson (the Force?)), though. It's quite presumptuous of me to choose a posting from these past 10 years of particular consequence, regarding what King Crimson is all about, or what music is all about. But I did it anyway. This isn't the first post, but of course it is a post I wrote :-). For anyone immersed in King Crimson lyrics and lore, the following may have resonance. Personally, I imagine being in Asbury Park in 1974 when I read section about the play (though that would have been spring, so ah...). Oddly, this chapter didn't make it into the movie. Yet I imagine Robert wanting to quote "Ai!" (read below) whenever a fan approaches! :-) So, going back a decade...enjoy. --> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1991 21:52:41 -0400 (EDT) --> From: Brian Patrick Arnold --> Subject: The Joy Luck Club This is a story about the Moon Lady. Yes, this is a submission for Discipline. We can't drool over Fripp's next 'ism' without some other forms of related entertainment, lest we become reductionist, self-referential and boring. And besides, I'm frustrated, because the CD Warehouse doesn't yet have the "Essential King Crimson: Frame by Frame" boxed set yet and they say they won't have it until Friday. I was reading The Joy Luck Club the other day...no it was last spring, but anyway, one chapter struck me as particularly interesting. The book is composed of stories about mothers and their daughters in China and America, contrasting their lives, the Chinese values integrating (or not) with American culture. One story is about Ying Ying St. Clair's childhood experience with the Moon Lady. Apologies if it is too long for some people's tastes or attention spans, but it is neato reading. Excerpts follow. "For all these years I kept my true nature hidden, running along like a small shadow so nobody could catch me. And because I moved so secretly now my daughter does not see me. "And I want to tell her this: We are lost, she and I, unseen and not seeing, unheard and not hearing, unknown by others. "Yet today I can remember a time when I ran and shouted, when I could not stand still. It is my earliest recollection: telling the Moon Lady my secret wish. And because I forgot what I wished for, that memory remained hidden from me all these years. "But now I remember that wish, and I can recall the details of that entire day, as clearly as I see my daughter and the foolishness of her life. "I tugged on Amah's sleeve and asked: 'Who is the Moon Lady?' "'Chang-o. She lives on the moon and today is the only day you can see her and have a secret wish fulfilled.' "'What is a secret wish?' "'It is what you want but cannot ask,' said Amah. "'Why can't I ask?' "'This is because...because if you ask it...it is no longer a wish but a selfish desire,' said Amah. 'Haven't I taught you--that it is wrong to think of your own needs? A girl can never ask, only listen.' "'Then how will the Moon Lady know my wish?' "Ai! You ask too much already! You can ask her because she is not a normal person.' "...after we finished our treat it grew quiet and once again I became restless. Suddenly I saw a dragonfly with a large crimson body and transparent wings. I leapt off the bench and ran to chase it, and my half-sisters followed me, jumping and thrusting their hands as it flew away. "My mother smiled and walked over to me. She smoothed some of my wayward hairs back in place and tucked them into my coiled braid. 'A boy can run and chase dragonflies, because that is his nature,' she said. 'But a girl should stand still. If you are still for a very long time, a dragonfly will no longer see you. Then it will come up to you and hide in the comfort of your shadow.' "Standing perfectly still like that, I discovered my shadow. I shrieked with delight at my shadow's own cleverness. I loved my shadow, this dark side of me that had my same restless nature. "...I stayed, as if caught in a good dream. And sure enough, I turned around and a sullen woman was now squatting in front of the bucket of fish. I watched as she took out a sharp, thin knife and began to slice open the fish bellies, pulling out the red slippery insides and throwing them over her shoulder into the lake. I saw her scrape off the fish scales, which flew into the air like shards of glass. [more gross stuff deleted] "It was not until then, too late, that I saw my new clothes--and the spots of blood, flecks of fish scales, bits of feather and mud. What a strange mind I had! In my panic, in hearing waking voices...I quickly dipped my hands in the bowl of turtle's blood and smeared this on my sleeves, and on the front of my pants and jacket. And this is what I truly thought: that I could cover these spots by painting my clothes crimson red, and that if I stood perfectly still no one would notice this change. "This is how Amah found me: an apparition covered with blood. I can still hear her voice, screaming in terror, running over to see what pieces of my body were missing... "The water had turned a deep golden color, and then red, purple, and finally black. The sky had darkened and red lantern lights started to glow all over the lake. "On the dock, with the bright moon behind me, I once again saw my shadow. It was shorter this time, shrunken and wild-looking. We ran together over to some bushes along a walkway and hid. In this hiding place I could hear people talking as they walked by. I could hear frogs and crickets. And then--flutes and tinkling cymbals, a sounding gong and drums! "I looked through the branches of the bushes and in front I could see a crowd of people and, above them, a stage holding up the moon. A young man burst out from the side of the stage and told the crowd, 'And now the Moon Lady will come to tell her sad tale to you, in a shadow play, classically sung.' "The Moon Lady! I thought, and the very sound of those magic words made me forget my troubles. I heard more cymbals and gongs and then a shadow of a woman appeared against the moon. Her hair was undone and she was combing it. She began to speak. Such a sweet, wailing voice! "'My fate and my penance,' she began to lament, pulling her long fingers through her hair, 'to live here on the moon, while my husband lives on the sun. So that each day and each night, we pass each other, never seeing one another, except this one evening, the night of the mid-autumn moon.' "The crowd moved closer. The Moon Lady plucked her lute and began her singing tale. "On the other side of the moon I saw the silhouette of a man appear. The Moon Lady held her arms out to embrace him--'O! Hou Yi, my husband, Master Archer of the Skies!' she sang. But her husband did not seem to notice her. He was gazing at the sky. And as the sky grew brighter, his mouth began to open wide--in horror or delight, I could not tell. "The Moon Lady clutched her throat and fell into a heap, crying, 'The drought of ten suns in the eastern sky!' And just as she sang this, the Master Archer pointed his magic arrows and shot down nine suns which burst open with blood. 'Sinking into a simmering sea!' she sang happily, and I could hear these suns sizzling and crackling in death. "And now a fairy--the Queen Mother of the Western Skies!--was flying toward the Master Archer. She opened a box and held up a glowing ball--no not a baby sun but a magic peach, the peach of everlasting life! I could see the Moon Lady pretending to be busy with her embroidery, but she was watching her husband. She saw him hide the peach in a box. And then the Master Archer raised his bow and vowed to fast for one year to show he had the patience to live forever. And after he ran off, the Moon Lady wasted not one moment to find the peach and eat it! "As soon as she tasted it, she began to rise, then fly--not like the Queen Mother--but like a dragonfly with broken wings. 'Flung from this earth by my own wantonness!' she cried just as her husband dashed home, shouting, 'Theif! Life-stealing wife!' He picked up his bow, aimed an arrow at his wife and--with the rumblings of a gong, the sky went black. "Wyah! Wyah! The sad lute music began again as the sky on the stage lightened. And there stood the poor lady against a moon as bright as the sun. He hair was now so long it swept the floor, wiping up her tears. An eternity had passed since she last saw her husband, for this was her fate: to stay lost on the moon, forever seeking her own selfish wishes. "'For woman is yin,' she cried sadly, 'the darkness within, where untempered passions lie. And man is yang, bright truth lighting our minds.' "At the end of her singing tale, I was crying, shaking with despair. Even though I did not understand her entire story, I understood her grief. In one small moment, we had lost the world, and there was no way to get it back. 'I have a wish! I have one!' I shouted as I ran forward in my bare feet. I kept running toward the moon to tell the Moon Lady what I wanted, because now I knew what my wish was. I darted fast as a lizard behind the stage, to the other side of the moon. I saw her, standing still for a moment. 'I have a wish,' I said in a whisper, and still she did not hear me. So I walked closer yet, until I could see the face of the Moon Lady, shrunken cheeks, a broad oily nose, large glaring teeth, and red-stained eyes. A face so tired that she wearily pulled off her hair, her long gown fell from her shoulders. And as the secret wish fell from my lips, the Moon Lady looked at me and became a man. "...Now that I am old, moving every year closer to the end of my life, I also feel closer to the beginning. And I remember everything that happened that day because it has happened many times in my life. The same innocence, trust, and restlessness; the wonder, fear, and the loneliness. How I lost myself. "I remember all these things. And tonight...I also remember what I asked the Moon Lady so long ago. I wished to be found." I find that there is a deep, mostly unexplored relationship between Crimson and the arts and literature. Direct examples include Todd Bowles' novel "The Sheltering Sky", Rembrandt's painting "The Night Watch", and so on. Somebody could write some really boring intellectual stuff about this. - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Saturday, 01 Sep 2001 14:17:14 From: masse at epoc dot u-bordeaux dot fr (Laurent Masse) Subject: Live Groove / Club 17 comparison Well, I suppose someone had to do it. When Club 17 was announced, I asked on the DGM GB what difference with Live Groove but got no answer. I didn't opt out as the three Vector Shifts obviously made one big difference, but made a close comparison of the other tracks when receiving it last Friday: X-CHAYN JIZ: This is exactly the same take as on Live Groove, approx 15 seconds longer at the start, and with a 30 secs edit somewhere in the middle of the improv. However the remaining sections perfectly match. VECTOR SHIFT TO PLANET BELEWBELOID: Listed as "bell solo" on the set list, this is not the same take as on Live Groove. LIGHT C: The last Fripp piano phrases and the last theme iteration are exactly the same as on Live Groove, however the beginning is different. If this is really the complete Northampton take, it confirms that the Live Groove selections were mainly collages of different nights, just as on Masque and West Coast Live. HEAVY C: Same take as on Live Groove AND Cirkus AND Sometimes God Smiles. Is this the complete version? Live Groove has a slight 10 second edit somewhere in the improv, while Cirkus and SGS have more severe edits. BTW, the mix on SGS was different (Fripp and Singleton?) while the three other versions sound like they were edited from the same Chris Murphy mix. DOTT: Totally different, and Trey's solo is SO much better than on Live Groove! The question is, the version on Cirkus, which is an edit of Live Groove, is said to be recorded Northampton July 1, 1998. So which one IS Northampton? SUS-TAYN-Z: The beginning phrases are different, but from where Belew enters, this version is an edit of the Live Groove one. And BTW, this is not the same edit as on the beginners guide to ProjeKcts: the removed sections are not the same. VECTOR SHIFT - C: Nothing to compare, but that one is a killer. CONTRARY C: Definitely not the same take. ------------------------------ Date: Saturday, 01 Sep 2001 08:35:34 From: brianarnold at flatearthstudio dot com (Brian Arnold) Subject: TYPO: Moon Lady post I made a typo in my recently submitted post. In 10 years, I still can't proof-read. It's not _Todd_ Bowles, it's _Paul_ Bowles. - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Monday, 27 Aug 2001 17:01:27 From: Hocow at aol dot com Subject: GIG REVIEW: Gig Review CGT with Levin and Mastelloto in Salt Lake Greetings, The Trio's loss was our gain. The stinky smoky Zephyr Club double booked and canceled the CGT. The band held two very intimate concerts in the studio they had rented to rehearse in. Nine rows of ten seats were set up in what was like a large living room. I'm sure they didn't make as much money as they might have in a bigger place but it was sure great for the audience. We were packed asses to elbows but once the music began nobody cared. Adding the rythm section made all the old Frippy material even more Crim-like. Much material that was new to me was played on their last tour judging from the live at the Key Club cd I purchased that night. You would all love the Schizoid Man medley they play. It starts out with a few bars of the high speed unison section and then goes into a boogie groove ala Vroom. I thought they were playing Vroom with a lot of wrong notes but as it turns out it is an arrangement of a Japanese folk melody Zundako Bundi. Vroom was briefly quoted and Schizoid snipppets came in and out throughout the tune. They did several pieces announced as new material including another Japanese folk song (surprisingly cool). There were some old faves of mine that had fallen by the wayside, most notably Bach's Toccatta in D minor and Apache (complete with choeography).I enjoyed their improvisation more than in the past. It began with some nice bell sounds from Pat. He seemed to have a blast the whole night. Tony was his usual cool professional self. They did excellent versions of Heart Of The Sunrise, Discipline, and Dance of the Maya. There was the usual audience participation Bohemian Rhapsody. A lyric sheet may be in order next time. We were dreadful but it was fun. Paul says the expanded band has plans to record a new cd in the near future and he also announced that these in studio concerts were being recorded. If they become available, jump on them. After the concert, there was Barbeque available in the parking lot. All the musicians (including Mixmaster Bill Munyon) were there, open to autograph requests and just hanging out in general. Pat was telling Mexican airline horror stories and attempting to explain Tony's current status in King Crimson. (He's still in the band but he's not playing with us right now to paraphrase). All in all it was a wonderful night. Thanks guys. Brad Wilmot ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 29 Aug 2001 23:31:13 From: xaviergana at gmx dot net (Francisco Xavier Garcia Nava) Subject: GIG REVIEW: Mexico,Mexico... Hello Crimson Fans all over the world!!! I'm a mexican crimson fan,this is my second post in Elephant Talk,I wanna tell you that I was in Metropolitan Theatre the second Crimson show at august the 18th;when they started to play The construkction of Light,and The Prozac Blues,and then Dinosaur I was very happy!!!! But the climax came with Red,and the acoustic version of Three of a perfect pair,by the way,Adrian said that this song was not included in this tour,then it would be played by the first time in the tour,cause the mexican fans were very nice!!! Ohh,I was very happy to see King Crimson in my Mexico,it was like a beautiful dream come true,but the best thing was that when I got there,I just waiting to come inside the Theatre,and suddenly Pat Mastelotto and Trey Gunn was walking around the street just in front of me,they saw the Crimson souvenirs in the street,that was very cool!!! Well well,that's all,I just wanna share this with all of you!!! I love Mexico!!! I love King Crimson!!! Xavier Garcia ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #871 ********************************