Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #860 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 860 Monday, 23 July 2001 Today's Topics: NEWS: KC and related releases Hidden CD Tracks Looking for Trey Gunn Knitting Factory setlist! George Harrison "related" to Crimson? Crimson West Coast Tour Dates 21st Century KC logo BPM&M Re: KCCC audio rating: DGM vs. members Re: Tool inspired by KC? KC to be inspired by Tool? It's Doctor Diamond!!! hidden CD track Sinfield's "Still" Re: How I Got Into King Crimson Giles/Muir/Cunningham Re: Dragon cover? (+ 6 degrees of personal connections) Re: Still Re: Nico's Intimate Notebook photos Hidden Tracks No wonder it's hard to find... Tool Video Collectors Club, Berkley 82 ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.shtml You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.7b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:39:05 -0400 From: Gary Davis Subject: NEWS: KC and related releases Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . future import releases which you'll find at SYLVIAN,DAVID & ROBERT FRIPP-DAMAGE RM KING CRIMSON-EARTHBOUND (LIMITED) KING CRIMSON-THRAK (LIMITED) KING CRIMSON-USA (LIMITED) Apparently Thrak will actually be issued in a mini-LP sleeve despite not having been an LP release previously. GILES GILES & FRIPP-METAMORPHOSIS Thirteen previously unissued 1968 psych pop recordings from embryonic King Crimson line-up. Includes an early version of 'I Talk To The Wind' and a solo Robert Fripp guitar instrumental. Limited to 1000 copies. 190 gram vinyl. HACKETT,STEVE & FRIENDS-TOKYO TAPES - LIVE IN JAPAN This 100-minute DVD features the triumphant performance of Steve Hackett and his band playing a magical set in the heart of Japan. Hackett demonstrates his uplifting musical prowess by performing his emotion-building ballads with his orchestral rock & roll outfit - John Wetton, Ian MacDonald, Chester Thompson and Julian Colbeck. YES-CLOSE TO THE EDGE Part of the 'Yes Original Jacket Series'. Japanese limited edition HDCD remastered reissue of 1972 album, packaged in a miniature LP sleeve. YES-FRAGILE Part of the 'Yes Original Jacket Series'. Japanese limited edition HDCD remastered reissue of 1972 album, packaged in a miniature LP sleeve. YES-YESSONGS (LIVE) (3CD) Part of the 'Yes Original Jacket Series'. Japanese limited edition HDCD remastered reissue of 1973 album, packaged in a miniature LP sleeve. EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER-LOVE BEACH + UK remastered reissue of the progressive rock supergroup's 1978 album. Scheduled to include unreleased bonus tracks TBA. EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER-WORKS VOL. 1 + UK remastered reissue of the progressive rock supergroup's 1977 album. Scheduled to include unreleased bonus tracks TBA. EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER-WORKS VOL. 2 + UK remastered reissue of the progressive rock supergroup's 1977 album. Scheduled to include unreleased bonus tracks TBA. And recently released imports YES-TIME AND A WORD Japanese HDCD remastered reissue of their 1970 album. Packaged in a limited edition miniature reproduction of the original LP sleeve. YES-YES Japanese HDCD remastered reissue of their 1969 album. Packaged in a limited edition miniature reproduction of the original LP sleeve. YES-YES ALBUM Japanese HDCD remastered reissue of their 1971 album. Packaged in a limited edition miniature reproduction of the original LP sleeve. EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER-WELCOME BACK, MY FRIENDS... (2CD) Full title 'Welcome Back, My Friends, to the Show That Never Ends - Ladies and Gentleman'. UK reissue of 1974 live album, digitally remastered from the original tapes. Coming soon from Voiceprint Howard Riley & Keith Tippett/Interchange - The Bern Concert Howard's influences include Bill Evans, Thelonius Monk and Art Tatum and he first started recording with that other doyen of Free Jazz, Keith Tippett in the eighties. Two recordings were released " First Encounter " on Impetus and " In Focus " on Affinity. The Bern concert was recorded on December 8th 1993. The music is completely unrehearsed and spontaneous and reflects the technical skills and inventiveness of these two awesome musicians. Murray Head/Nigel Lived 1972 'Nigel Lived' is an album which is based around the concept of a diary featuring songs with brilliant lyrics. The line up consists of some outstanding musicians including Cozy Powell (Rainbow;Emerson Lake & Powell), Michael Giles (King Crimson) Peter Giles (King Crimson) and Jimmy Hastings (Caravan). This is the first time that the album has been available on CD and it has been digitally re-mastered for this format. Coming soon from Tim Bowness' Burning Shed label No-Man/Lost Songs: Volume One ....import CD-R Flawed but no longer ignored, Lost Songs: Volume One is a 14 track, 60 minute collection of previously unreleased material dating from 1991-97. Featuring Flowermouth-era contributions from Robert Fripp and Mel Collins and further fallout from the experimental Wild Opera/Dry Cleaning Ray sessions, Lost Songs: Volume One is an essential purchase for the No-Man completist. Darkroom/Fallout One ....import CD-R The first in Darkroom's live Fallout trilogy, this collection mainly dates from performances in London and Cambridge in 1999/2000 and features the full trio of Tim Bowness, Michael Bearpark and Os. A seamless blend of treated vocal and guitar improvs, scattergun rhythms and inventive synth experiments which calls to mind an unholy alliance between Fripp/Eno, Photek and Satan himself. Peter Chilvers/He Wrote This ....import CD-R 'He Wrote This' is an album of fretless bass and chapman stick compositions from the Henry Fool / Samuel Smiles member, Peter Chilvers. Displaying the full range of Chilvers' impressive and impressionistic textural palette and operating in the looping and soundscaping terrain of Fripp/ Eno, Eberhard Weber and Rothko, the album also features vocal contributions from Tim Bowness and Sandra O'Neill on the songs 'All the beautiful things' and 'Broken things'. Rothko/No Chart No Anchor No Rudder No Sails ....import CD-R Comprising entirely exclusive material drawn from several sources, 'no chart no anchor no rudder no sails' makes for a surprisingly coherent and complete listening experience. Mainly exploring a gentle and impressionistic Durutti, Cocteaus, Budd and Weber territory, this unique combination of haunting textures and loop improvs might just be one of the highly regarded Rothko's finer moments. Um/Peter Gregory at Home with His Bad Self ....import CD-R Part Bowie, part Baby Bird, part 23rd Century court jester on a George Formby tip, Um's 'Pete Gregory Alone With His Bad Self' is a supremely eclectic and inspired collection of random thoughts, fully formed songs and demented electronic instrumentals. Be afraid, the future of DIY singer-songwriter electronica is among us. Recently released by Burning Shed No-Man/Radio Sessions ....import CD-R A sonically excellent CD-R release of the best of No-Man's radio session recordings, including the celebrated 'Hit The North' session with a live band including Jansen, Barbieri and Karn, plus material taken from a number of radio sessions recorded between 1992 and 1996 with various different line-ups, including several 'unplugged' performances and appearances by Colin Edwin and Chris Maitland (both later of Porcupine Tree). Please note that, in accordance with the band's wishes, this continues with the original packaging: a CD Jewel case with a simple printed insert, instead of the more intricate burning shed packaging. soundbite - soundbite - Bass Communion/Bass Communion (3) ....import CD-R The third self-titled Bass Communion release carries on where its distinguished predecessors left off by creating a distinctive and emotionally resonant fusion of ambient loop music, electro-minimalism and darkly evocative textures. soundbite - soundbite - Tim Bowness and Samuel Smiles/Live Archive One ....import CD-R Comprising three separate 'live in the studio' sessions dating from 1991-99, the bulk of this recording is culled from the band's stint in Liverpool's famous Amazon Studios in 1991 and showcases the band at a fascinating, formative phase in their development. Cheap heartache and high emotion at croon central, guaranteed. soundbite - soundbite - Alias Grace/Storm Blue Evening ....import CD-R Featuring hauntingly melancholy songs adorned with constantly shifting atmospheric arrangements, Alias Grace's second album 'Storm Blue Evening' develops further the intimate and beguiling nature of their charmed debut album and captures perfectly the maturing writing style of Irish singer-songwriter Sandra O'Neill and Samuel Smiles' pianist Peter Chilvers. The album also features cameo appearances from Myke Clifford, Mike Bearpark and Tim Bowness. soundbite - soundbite - Navigator/Noisebox Singles '96-'97 ....import CD-R Shifting from brooding and intense croon-laden epics to out-rock experiments that evoke Tortoise and Bark Psychosis at their best, this represents a collection of all Navigator's output for the respected Noisebox label. soundbite - Alias Grace/Embers ....import CD-R Debut album by the songwriters with the atmospheric touch, first released in 1998. The album also features 'Talk Simple', a reworking of the lyric of No-Man's 'Tulip', and a guest appearance by Tim Bowness. soundbite - soundbite - soundbite - Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:15:25 +0200 From: "Schopf" Subject: Hidden CD Tracks Joe Funk wrote: >Well, there's a trick that can be done on a cd that almost gives the same >feeling: I have this CD by the late Belgian band Kiss My Jazz, which >contains a 'hidden' album within itself. If you load the cd and simply >press play (just like every regular cd), you'll hear an album, with >multiple songs, and everything is fine. Then, if you load the cd, press >play, and then press and hold the <<-search key on your cd player, the cd >will amazingly rewind "before" the first track. Hold it until the time >displays something like [-30:00] (I don't quiet remember the exact time), >release the search key, and there you are, you have about 30 minutes of >additionnal music, 'another' album within the album. This maneuvre is >described in an hidden notice behind the plastic cd carrier (inside the cd >box), along with informations and track listing for the 'ghost album' (as >they call it). >Does anyone knows of other cds with this clever type of bonus tracks? Yes! "The X-Files - Songs In The Key Of X" has two songs before song number one. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:46:36 -0800 From: Brian Bernardini Subject: Looking for Trey Gunn Knitting Factory setlist! An associate recently sent me a recording of the Trey Gunn Knitting Factory show from September 14, 2000. However, he didn't know any setlist info. Can anybody provide such data? Thanks! -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Wasser Dan Subject: George Harrison "related" to Crimson? Just got finished reading "Fleetwood - My Life And Adventures in Fleetwood Mac" by Mick Fleetwood. Turns out that Mick was married to Jenny Boyd (sister of Patty Boyd who, as you know, is the former wife of George Harrison and, as you know, current wife of Eric Clapton). After Mick divorced Jenny, she married Ian Wallace. So, Harrison - Patty Boyd - Jenny Boyd - Ian Wallace. By the way, the book was quite interesting and had some good anecdotes. But Mick Fleetwood is one messed up dude, IMO. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: ProgNaut at webtv dot net (Ron) Subject: Crimson West Coast Tour Dates Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can find tour dates in LA? Best Regards, Ron Webmaster at ProgNaut dot com **************************** P r o g N a u t . c o m "a Progressive & Classic Rock Fan Site" www.ProgNaut.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:43:33 +0200 From: "Andrzej" Subject: 21st Century KC logo Crims on Heads, ... sometimes have Holy holidays. It's time to get some rest. Touring, walking, swimming, taking a sunbath, reading ET (by a chance) and waiting for 21st century Crimson Music I realize that it's a pity there is no logo on KC2000 releases. So I've got an idea. Let's relax playing this summer game and let's create our own 21st Century KC logo. I think the sign should be easy identified with the recent Double Duo and, of course, resemble other crimson insignia as Discipline or DGM logo, Double Trio logo. Here is my design. The main version of KC logo is made of 45x45 squares (double line) and the simple one is made of 15x15 squares. It looks more or less like this, 0000000000 0000000000 00 00 00 00 00 0000000000 0000000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 000000 00 00 000000 00 00 00 00 00 000000000000000000000000000000 00 00 00000000000000000000000000 00 00 00 00 00 000000 00 00 0000000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0000000000 00 000000 00 00 00 00 00 0000000000 00000000000000 Regards and have a nice time, Andrzej Samol P.S. I hope the next step will be an artwork of the future release. And I'm going to create some Crimson WinAmp skins. Have anybody ever seen (made) any ones ? -- Darmowy komunikator internetowy - zainstaluj OnetKomunikator [ http://ok.onet.pl ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:42:56 -0000 From: "Cameron Devlin" Subject: BPM&M Surprised no one has yet mentioned the debut album of BPM&M (Beats Per Mastelotto & Munyon, I presume). It's got a very Project 3 "Masque" style to it.. heavily processed, very drum 'n' bass actually. As expected really. Go to http://www.papabear.com to order it, and do so RIGHT NOW I also order the new CGT Direct release, Live at the Key Club with Mastelotto and Levin. I haven't listened to that yet, but heard Heart of the Sunrise over the internet.. was very good. Cameron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:24:07 EDT From: DanKirkd at aol dot com Subject: Re: KCCC audio rating: DGM vs. members In a message dated Thu, 12 Jul 2001 03:54:10 -0700 (PDT), Teofilus Kierto < teofiluskierto at yahoo dot com> writes: << I wonder if anyone else is finding it difficult to understand the basic motives behind DGM's ratings for club releases' sound quality. Take, for example, the two 1982 recordings released so far. CLUB4 gets 4 stars from DGM, whereas the current CLUB16 is deemed worthy of 4,5. To me this means that the Berkeley recording is sonically better of the two - which it isn't (and the members' audio rating seem to confirm my view). I find this somewhat annoying as it makes it almost impossible to use the DGM audio rating as a guide when deciding which club release might be worth having. Is the DGM team possibly doing what we listeners are not allowed to do, ie. judging also the merits of the performance or musicianship when rating the releases? There are, of course, other inconsistencies between DGM's and club members' audio ratings well worth of discussing, but this to me seems to be the most glaring one. >> DGM's audio ratings are a guide. They are made by humans. They are subjective. They are made against the release as a whole, and not possible individual tracks (for example Trees on Marquee would likely have been rated -1/10 had they done so). The same goes for Club member ratings. However, more people are polled for Club member ratings and what we get is an average. Therefore, some folks have rated Club 16 a 10/10, and some folks a 4/10. DGM's rating has to try and find that average rating by internal consensus amongst fewer people - not easy. I do not believe that the ratings make it "impossible to use the DGM audio rating as a guide", but if Club members feel that way DGM can remove the feature and take things back to the way they were before: i.e. no ratings or indication at all about the audio quality. Personally I think the system is pretty good in that it provides for both DGM and Club members to chime in on the audio quality rating. Of course many here are conspiracy theory proponents and can only imagine that the system was setup for no other purpose than to confuse and annoy. That's regretable. Dan DGM Web ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:56:16 -0500 From: "Sam Wesley" Subject: Re: Tool inspired by KC? KC to be inspired by Tool? IN ET858 Johnny Romano felt compelled to write: > >Am I listening to the same CD as the folks making such a suggestion? > > > >What I'm hearing is a band that sounds more like Metallica than anything > >else. There may be a little rockin' Rush in there, but again, that >sounds > >like Metallica (who have opening expressed their Rush influence). Most >of > >the guitar work sounds like so much death head banging chords. The >drumming > >is heavily based on bass drum and what sounds like large mallet drumming. > >The singing is largely unvarying and the lyrics are hard to make out. > > > >I can't make out any musical association. > > > >Sam > > > > I think you need to learn more about music and listen to it again. >The similarities are more than obvious. For someone to honesty say >such things as you have leads me to believe that you don't really >understand what you're talking about. Yes, I must be a complete and utter moron. Of course, then again, I may just have a different opinion or musical taste than you. >1 - You said it sounds more like metallica. > Obviously you've never really listened to any metallica before. Enough to know that Tool sounds more like Metallica than King Crimson. >2 - "Death Head" banding chords? Who said that? Head "banging" guitar work is what I was on about. >3 - Heavily based on bass drum? What?!?!? Have you listen to the new Tool yet? This should not be so hard to hear. >4 - The lyrics are hard to make out because you're brain does not > yet know how to seperate the vocalist from the music. After > less than half a week of listening I was able to sing along to > about 75% of the lyrical content. Bravo to you! >My recommendation is that you listen to a little more Tool, and >I cannot stress the importance of getting to know the songs through >repeated listening. Then listen to crimson again and surely you will >see what seperates tool from the metal bands they are associated with. Maybe, but so far all that separates them is that they are going to share the bill with KC, whereas the others will not. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 4:24:05 +0200 From: crimson63 at katamail dot com Subject: It's Doctor Diamond!!! On last issue "Darin Lemieux" wrote about a mistery song, it's Doctor Diamond: Doctor Diamond I am the driver of an underground train Chaos in the streets above, to me it's all the same I shake your houses, then I'm gone keeping time down here below I could drive my train to hell, not a soul would know I am the driver of an underground train ........................................ c 1974 EG Records Ltd. All titles published by EG Music Inc. (BMI) All taken from: http://www.elephant-talk.com/releases/tgd.htm Hi Eters! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:28:48 -0400 From: "Jay" Subject: hidden CD track Carly Simon's Letters Never Sent has a 41 sec instrumental before track one - I happened upon this by accident during a rewind. I also have a 45 that has an auto race with four different winners. Jay Ambler, PA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:01:53 +1200 From: David Maclennan Subject: Sinfield's "Still" I got "Still" when it first came out here in NZ as an import in Jan '74, and I still like it a lot. Sinfield's got a weak voice, but with such a stellar collection of KC alumni and others behind him, this is not such a problem. Favouite tracks: "Under The Sky" (way better than the GG&F version), "Sea Goat", and "Night People". The Voiceprint reissue "Stillusion" sounds very nice, but I'm annoyed that they changed the track order. Every time I play it I have to program the CD player to correct this. And the two extra tracks on the CD? These were from an aborted second album, and are truly AWFUL! I never play them. I believe a recent Jap reissue of "Still" had the correct track order (and a nice cardboard mini-sleeve). David Maclennan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:25:33 +0700 From: Xenantaya Subject: Re: How I Got Into King Crimson > Subject: Re: How I Got Into King Crimson Welcome to the CrimsonShip Darren! ^_^ > Discipline alot lately - I love that one - can anyone suggest a next buy? > I'm thinking either Three of a Perfect Pair (mainly due to the bonus tracks) > or Lizard (despite Lizard's gatefold being discontinued... grrrr...) If you like the 80's era King Crimson, I would strongly suggest to purchase the live records from that era. Recently I've bought the "Absent Lovers, Live in Montreal 1984" (found it surprisingly on the "hip" record store here in Indonesia, a rare occurence indeed) and totally blown. I think I wouldn't touch any of the 80's album for some times.... And the live boxset "The Great Deceiver" is also an essential element in King Crimson universe... IMHO. > listed as "The Great Deceiver" - well it wasn't. It's lyrics mention "I am > the driver of an underground train" frequently. It's nothing that I've > heard on any Crimson album... any idea what it is? It's called Dr. Diamond. ^_^ Salam Sakral! Reza! np____Mogwai;"Ex-Cowboy" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:16:37 -0600 (CST) From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN Subject: Giles/Muir/Cunningham > > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:37:12 +0100 > From: "Paul Dowling" > Subject: Metamorphosis, Giles/Muir/Cunningham, Gibralter Encyclopedia > > I was tooling around the web looking for info on GG&F Metamorphosis, and > I found a couple of interesting diversions: > > * A CD by Michael Giles, Jamie Muir, and someone called David > Cunningham which was new to me, called Ghost Dance. Anybody heard it? > Haven't heard the record, but thought I'd mention FYI that David Cunningham is the brains behind the Flying Lizards, most famous for their debut single, a cover of the classic "Money(Thats What I Want)." Fripp appears on their album Fourth Wall. Anyone know if this ever made it to CD? tim gueguen 101867 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:47:23 -0400 From: David Shattuck Subject: Re: Dragon cover? (+ 6 degrees of personal connections) Sorry if I was mistaken, but after reading the other responses to your question, I realized my reply was not what you were looking for. The album you were asking about must be Peter Sinfield's STILL (1973). Since I don't have this in my collection, I didn't consider it and thought you may have been thinking about the Montrose album, which has similar cover-art. Just an interesting aside that links me personally (albeit distantly) with both King Crimson and Sammy Hagar (regarding Rochester, NY.). My family and I are of Italian descent, and have lived in Rochester, NY for many years. I am a distant blood-relative of the Mangione family (jazz musicians Chuck and Gap, and author Jerre). I first saw Tony Levin playing with Chuck Mangione around 1971-72 for the "Together" concert at the Eastman Theater in Rochester . I have since seen Tony several times with Peter Gabriel, and once with King Crimson on the "Thrak" tour. I am linked to T.Lev. (via Rochester, NY) by Chuck Mangione and the fact that my old, Italian grandmother took me to see a graduate of the Eastman School of Music and future Crim playing with Chuck Mangione at the Eastman Theatre when I was a kid. What would she think of Tony playing "Thela Hun Ginjeet"? I also have a link to Sammy Hagar, who also lived in Rochester for a short time. In the early '80's, I worked for a small, local engineering and drafting supply company (then known as H.H. Sullivan). I kept hearing about "Sammy", a guy who worked in the paper-cutting room several years before, and who was now quickly gaining notoriety in the rock music field. I had seen some old paperwork with the initials SH around the shop, but didn't connect it for a while. It wasn't until a few years after I had left the company that I found out that "Sammy" and "SH" were, in fact, Sammy (the Red Rocker) Hagar and that we had worked for the same small company in Rochester only a few years apart. Small world, eh? >>A friend of mine was telling me about an album in the late 60s or early 70s >>by a band that she's pretty sure included Robert Fripp and Greg Lake. She >>thought it was King Crimson, but I know (or at least I think I do) all of >>the early King Crimson album covers. She says the cover was of a dragon and >>in the dragon's mouth was a beautiful woman (possibly a girl). Do you have >>any idea what the album was and who it was by? > >This could be the debut album by Montrose, entitled "Warner Bros. presents >Montrose!" which was released in 1975, after Ronnie Montrose left the Edgar >Winters Group. The cover has a winged Godzilla-like monster holding a beautiful >woman in its' arms. No members of Crimson were ever in Montrose, but Sammy >Hagar (ex-Van Halen) was, although he was not on the first album. Hope this helps. > >Dave S. >Rochester, NY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:55:22 +0200 From: Haible Juergen Subject: Re: Still > From: Teofilus Kierto > Is it any good, Peter Sinfield's Still? Somebody already said yes, so just > for the sake of conversation (not to mention balance) here's the opposite > view. [...] I think some songs are quite good, *but* I rarely listen to the CD because it sounds so terribly "treble boosted". I wonder if I have a flawed CD. There is so much treble and no bass that adjusting the controls on my amplifier doesn't help much. I should run it thru a serious equalizer, maybe. Are there "good" CD versions of Still ? How is the LP version ? Or is that treble boost intentional, after all ? JH. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:26:28 -0400 From: "Caruso, Josette" Subject: Re: Nico's Intimate Notebook photos I'm sorry you have trouble getting onto the website. The address is:http://www.NICOSINTIMATENOTEBOOK.com The menu loads and a simple click on "PHOTO'S" will bring you to photos of Nico and Robert Fripp and Tony Levin with her lil trick she played on him for Trey.... xoxoxox Josette ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:26:48 -0500 From: "Brothers, Michael (IA)" Subject: Hidden Tracks Marchetti_Herve wrote: > Does anyone knows of other cds with this clever type of bonus tracks? Yes. On 'Songs in the Key of X', the 'X-Files' companion CD, there is a cryptic reference stating 'Nick Cave wants you to know that zero is also a number.' or something to that effect. When you put in the CD, you press the backtrack button until the song indicator reads zero and you hear a Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds version of the X-Files theme. Take Care, mike Michael S. Brothers Facilities and Construction Office Bldg. B-61, Camp Dodge 7700 NW Beaver Dr. Johnston, IA 50131 515-334-2822 "I'm a Spaulding Gray in a Rick Dees world" - Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:51:14 -0400 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: No wonder it's hard to find... > From: "Paul Dowling" > Subject: Metamorphosis, Giles/Muir/Cunningham, Gibralter Encyclopedia > > I was tooling around the web looking for info on GG&F Metamorphosis, and > I found a couple of interesting diversions: > > * A CD by Michael Giles, Jamie Muir, and someone called David > Cunningham which was new to me, called Ghost Dance. Anybody heard it? It's a disc of rather abstract soundscapes, and not the prog-a-palooza the two drummer lineup might suggest. Certainly worth a listen, though. Fans of Muir's limited output might also want to check out the latest Evan Parker CD on the Emanem label, 'The Ayes Have It,' half of which features a free jazz blow by Parker, Muir, and bassist Paul Rogers (not the Bad Co. guy) from 1983. See www.emanemdisc.com for more details. > Nothing on Metamorphosis though... any links out there? I wonder if the trouble finding the album is due to misspelling the title. Look closer, everyone - it's actually 'Metaphormosis.' Got mine at Midnight Records in NYC, which has a website: www.midnightrecords.com. Last time I checked, the GG&F wasn't listed there, but you could also send an e-mail inquiry. Steve Smith ssmith36 at sprynet dot com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:20:02 From: "Clive Lathrope" Subject: Tool Video "Schism" on real.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:54:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank P Subject: Collectors Club, Berkley 82 Hi all, I'm looking to purchase a copy of Collectors Club, Berkley 82, so if someone is willing to part with theirs for a profit... Please email me privately at: waitingman7 at yahoo dot com Thanks! Frank ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #860 ********************************