Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #797 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 797 Monday, 8 January 2001 Today's Topics: NEWS: The next remasters and other news Where's The Beef? PROJEKCTS BOX SET ON SALE - EUROPE ONLY Re: KC marathon et al. Reply to a Young Crimson Enthusiast WARNING!!! Obscure humour ahead! Re: Crimson in the movies (ENO) VH1 100 Greatest Hard Rock Bands how high can you buy?? Brian Eno in Movies Re: KC Marathons Use of "brass" Re: Giles Giles & Fripp lyrics More mistranslations HC DVD krimson item on ebay Australaysia "Kyoto Garden" Released at MP3 and IUMA The Effect this Music Has on Me!! 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ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.7b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:52:04 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: NEWS: The next remasters and other news Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Coming soon on our Discipline page King Crimson/Discipline King Crimson/Beat King Crimson/Three of a Perfect Pair This period marked a huge evolutionary step for the band. The exact same line-up - Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford, Adrian Belew, Tony Levin - actually existed for three consecutive albums! A first in Crimson history! The first time a second guitarist was in the band. The first time not all members were British. Digitally remastered by Robert Fripp himself using 24 bit technology, they come in unique, limited edition, cardboard stock sleeves just as the original vinyl LP's with the original artwork & sleeve notes intact. These newly remastered versions will eventually revert to a standard jewel case packaging, so get these limited editions while you can. Preorder now! soundbite - soundbite - soundbite - Note - while I was originally informed that these were to be released around January or February, that date has been pushed back to March at the earliest or possibly April. I've also included on the same page a special note from Trey Gunn regarding an upcoming tour and a request for some help from volunteers. I think this has already been submitted to ET, so I won't repeat it. But if you haven't seen it, check it out at . Available now from Clearlight Music Clearlight Symphony/Forever Blowing Bubbles This album followed the heady success of Symphony by charting into new territory. Forever Blowing Bubbles is also based on keyboardist Cyrille Verdeaux's piano and synthesizers but incorporates a more cohesive group sound featuring bassist/vocalist Joel Duregenot (ex-Zao), violinist David Cross (King Crimson) & guitarist/flutist Jean Claude d'Agostini (Magic Circus). Shorter songs with more variety are featured with pronounced synthesizer textures and a strong symphonic/psychedelic ambiance. Long a favorite of certain Clearlight fans, Bubbles was remastered to provide the best sound quality possible. In addition to the original tracks, this CD also boasts the presence of three bonus tracks remixed in 2000 from the original 16 track master tape. "Sweet Absinthe" was recorded for the original sessions but left off the LP because of its length. Featuring the triple tracked guitar artistry of Christian Boule along with Verdeaux's inventive keyboards and tuned drums with Gilbert Artman, this track transports the listener straight into the next level. The song "Without Words" was remixed to bring out the symphonic qualties of the keyboards, in particular the multliple layers of Mellotron that were obscured on the original mix. "Flute Aquatique" is a remix of "Jungle Bubbles" but with Francois Jeanneau's flute and percussion taking center stage creating a piece that would not be out of place at any world music festival. soundbite - Now let's move along to recently released imports which you'll find at . TIPPETS,KEITH & JULIE-COUPLE IN SPIRIT Remastered reissue of 1975 album for the talented duo. Eight tracks including, 'Daybreak', 'Morning Psalm' and 'Brimstone Spring Lullaby'. Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels Keith and Julie Tippets/Couple in Spirit 2 Keith and Julie Tippets, are the first couple of improvised music. Prior to her marriage to Keith, Julie was a well known performer in her own right. As Julie Driscol she performed with many top artists including Brian Auger. Couple in Spirit is recorded live and captures the whole unique interplay which transcends the the written musical page. Their ethereal bond works not just as husband and wife, but also as they become one to create the most harmonious music. This is an excellent follow up to the very popular Couple In Spirit on the EG label. This recording has been specially mastered for CD with artwork by Inca Tippet the talented daughter of this husband and wife team. Both Julie and Keith tour extensively which keeps their profile high, and Julie is also involved in the Soupsongs tour which is the Robert Wyatt project. Keith Tippett/Friday 13th Anybody who knows anything about the UK Jazz scene will have heard of the uniquely talented Mr. Tippett. However Keith's talents haven't just been hidden in the tight knit community of the jazz scene. He has crossed over into the rock arena by working extensively with King Crimson, during what has been described arguably as their finest hour. Friday the 13th captures Keith at his best at the height of his most recent Japanese tour. A breathtaking performance by one of Britains finest musicians! This recording has been specially mastered for CD and it is the first time it has been issued outside Japan. The album comes complete with deluxe sleeve artwork which is both interesting and striking. A must for all Keith Tippet's fans and for those who enjoy interesting and stunning music. Coming soon on our 3rd Stone page No-Man/Returning Jesus No-Man (the duo of Tim Bowness and Steven Wilson) have finally completed their long-awaited new album "Returning Jesus." The album, the band's first since 1996's 'Wild Opera', is No-Man's most ambitious and timeless to date, featuring a more organic band sound than heard on previous releases. Uniquely and effortlessly combining disparate influences from chamber jazz and classical musics (Miles Davis/Steve Reich) to experimental pop (Eno/Talk Talk/Pink Floyd) with a singer-songwriter intimacy and intensity, 'Returning Jesus' ranks as the finest achievement in the band's decade long career. Guest performers include Steve Jansen (Rain Tree Crow/Japan) on drums and Procupine Tree's Colin Edwin on bass/double bass for most tracks, in addition are trumpeters Ian Carr (Nucleus) and Ian Dixon, saxophonist Theo Travis, additional production from David Kosten (Faultline) and guitar contributions from acclaimed singer-songwriter Ben Christophers. The full tracklisting for "Returning Jesus" is: "Only Rain", "No Defence", "Close Your Eyes", "Carolina Skeletons", "Outside The Machine", "Returning Jesus", "Slow It All Down", "Lighthouse" and "All That You Are." Coming soon from Musea Dificil Equilibrio/Trayecto The band : this Spanish band, based around Barcelona, released a first album in 1997, and then an album of King Crimson covers; the guitarist A.Diaz moreover was a student of Fripp in Guitar Craft courses. "Trayecto" is their third album. The music: directly inspired by King Crimson (essentially the 74-82 eras), this brilliant trio (guitar/bass/drums, with some additional sax for one piece) delivers 11 instrumental pieces; they may be considered as "experimental music" in the best meaning of the word, although they remain, in many way, easy to listen to. These very constructed and controlled songs, led by distorted guitars, reveal a devastating energy and power, coupled with some peaceful moments. Just great stuff! soundbite - Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 22:10:28 EST From: ChalkPie88 at aol dot com Subject: Where's The Beef? Where's the goods? Is everyone on vacation still or what? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:53:42 +0800 From: biboprof at samantha dot bielnet dot it Subject: PROJEKCTS BOX SET ON SALE - EUROPE ONLY I'm selling one copy of the ProjeKcts Box Set in perfect condition (I'm a KC fan but I don't like Projekcts and I never listened entirely to these four cds). The price is EUR 30 + EUR 6 for shipping costs (registered mail only). TOTAL : EUR 36 This offer is valid only for Europe. (The price of this item on Amazon France is 61,31 EUR; on DGM is 35 GBP = 56 EUR, on Amazon UK is 30 GBP = 48 EUR). Please email me privately if you are interested. Fabrizio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:18:49 +0100 (MET) From: Florian Reiss Subject: Re: KC marathon et al. Hey-ho! Haven't contributed (or is it "polluted" ;O) to ET for quite a while, but edition #796 arose my interest (not that any of the previous newsletters were boring!). Now my comments on Hans Scheepers' marathon: I did a similar thing after receiving my gatefold remasters of "The First Seven". I started listening in chronological order (duh!) and after some hours of listening, when the last few shivers were going down my spine after "Starless" had faded out, I knew I couldn't just leave it that way and jumped off my couch, (gently!) took "RED" out of my player and replaced it with "DISCIPLINE"... Well... my CD player (let alone my speakers or my tortured neighbours) did not come to rest until the witty little piano snip and PM saying "yeah" had come to my ears, ending "VROOOM VROOOM:Coda" and thus the album "THRAK". What a trip! I left out all the live albums, but decided to have a similar session with "EPITAPH" (can't believe you have not yet closed your claws on that one, Markus!!! ;O), "THE NIGHT WATCH", "THE GREAT DECEIVER" (is there a better boxed set out there?), "ABSENT LOVERS", etc. And "THE PROJEkCTS" for my poor neighbours... Maybe for an encore, I will watch my KC video tapes, to add some kind of visual aspect! (I know, "It's the music that counts!", but anyway...) --- To Geoffrey ("Young Crimson Enthusiast"): Welcome to our "Happy Family"! =O) Coming to KC via Napster is not very "gentleman-like", but you like it and that's all that counts. Some time ago, when I (now 23 years of age) played KC with some friends around, they used to ask me to turn off this strange noisy crap or just shook their heads in ignorance. By now I have tried to get them more "in touch" with KC, encouraging them to "active listening" or to all the beautiful facets of music in general! (Just like KC's music did with myself!) Most of them only listened to the lame old MTV-kind of stuff that is being played on all the radio stations day by day, hour by hour... But now some of them are -well- more aware of the music they are listening to and they even like some pieces of Crimso's repertoire (most of it from the "DISCIPLINE"-era). Even my mother likes some KC songs! ("Starless" and "ToaPP" are her favourites), so I guess it's never to late, not to "teach" friends and family about good music ("Don't trust anybody who wishes to teach you something!"), but to get them in contact with it or just showing them that this kind of musiKc exists. Not by forcing them (Okay, you could tie them to your speakers and blast away their ears with the initial riff of JW's thundering bass on "THE NIGHT WATCH"'s "Easy Money", but you want them to stay your friends, don't you?), but by slowly introducing them to the Crimso Universe. It works! Best wishes to all of you, flo -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:07:06 -0500 From: Randall dot Hammill at hartfordlife dot com Subject: Reply to a Young Crimson Enthusiast Great post, Geoff, very insightful. It is always worth sharing your interests with others, especially your friends. However, as I think you have already found, Crimson is quite an acquired taste.What I have found is that many people have never heard anything like it, although to many they sound similar to other bands. But to help answer your question, I'll tell you how I came to know KC, and a little about one of my friends. My first encounter with KC was when somebody dropped off "In the Court..." at our church as part of a yard sale. A friend recognized it (he was obviously well familiar with their material) and grabbed it. He said it was great, but I didn't get a chance to hear it. I first heard KC (and recognized it) when a friend at school gave me Discipline to listen to. I was probably 16 as well. I found it very interesting, but nobody else seemed to like them, or have even heard of them. At the time I had a large record collection, and my favorite group was Yes. Another friend's older brother had the Frejus video, so he and I watched that. I still wasn't sure what to get, although we thought that was cool. Finally, I noticed that the "Young Person's Guide..." had the booklet in it. Being a record collector, and knowing that most record companies would release the reprint without all of the cool stuff that came with the original, I picked up a copy. I loved it. Of course, the next thing I had to have was "In The Court..." because I kept hearing about "Schizoid Man," but I had never heard it. From there I explored all things Fripp, I have really only introduced KC to one friend who has come to love the band and its spin-offs. Even he has not listened to anything pre-Wetton, except "In the Court..." a couple of times. Since he wanted to get involved in music, and I was looking for a bassist, I loaned him a bass. Since then he has really gotten into bass, although he has never learned to play. He really got into Wetton and Levin. By the time he started listening to KC, he was starting to get tired of "classic" and "progressive" rock, with the exception of Yes, KC and Tull, all of whom he never really knew about until I introduced him to them. Of these three, the only thing that is consistently in his CD player, years later is KC. Of all of the music that I have listened to over the years, KC and related are typically the only ones that have stayed consistent, along with some heavy Yes periods, because they hold a special place for me since they were the first concert I went to. Yes to me, at this point, is more of a feel-good and nostalgic listen, although as I have improved on guitar over the years I enjoy working out some of the Yes classics. Even my KC tastes have varied greatly, going through different periods of which era would listen to. Now I am typically most interested in the new material, or previously unreleased material, such as improvs. I tend to favor the period from the Double Trio and later. Initially, what really turned me onto KC was the Mellotron epics, like Epitaph, In the Court..., and Starless, as well as songs like Red. Once I began to understand the music (probably through hearing its evolution, I could get into the Disipline-era stuff more. It was only after hearing a wide variety of material, including Exposure and other solo work and side projects that I really began to understand Lizard, and some of what it foreshadowed. In fact, I was never really partial to the early material because of the saxes, until I started listening to more jazz, starting with Earthworks and Dave Brubek (who was a pioneer in odd time signatures in Jazz). So how does this help you? Well, think of what it was that attracted you to the band initially. Find similarities in what you like and what they like. Your favorite KC tune may not be what they get into. Maybe they listen to Nine Inch Nails. I have not heard the latest CD, but Adrian performs on that, find some similar Adrian performances in KC if you can. They may need some time to learn more about the complexity of the music to enjoy it. I don;t think you need to know anything about theory to get into KC's music, but understanding how CoL is composed and what to listen for can make it more interesting. You can also try some of the spin-offs. One of my musician friends could never get into KC, but found the Sylvian/Fripp material more to his liking. Through ELP he found he liked some of the earlier material with Greg Lake. He never became a fan or enthusiast, but then again, when I met him he was listening to Prince, Broadway shows and the Butthole Surfers. Anyway, I would suggest that you keep looking for new music out there and, if you want to, share the music. Look for the similarities, and just play the music. Don't even tell them who they are. The whole 6-degrees thing might be of some help here. I'd love to see other posts from ETers about their introduction to the band, and how their tastes have grown and changed, or haven't. And, as you implied in your post, don't be ignorant of other music - KC is great music, but by no means the ONLY music. Listening to other music can bring fresh perspectives to the next time you listen to KC - maybe even an idea as to how to bring it to others. Good luck! Randy Hammill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:30:12 -0500 From: "Bailey, Jim" Subject: WARNING!!! Obscure humour ahead! The Wurzel's Club (WC) wishes to announce the latest release in its collector's series. Release #WC4(and three farthings) is entitled "Live at the Cap d'Adge."* For the benefit of those who have no idea what that's all about, but really want to know (are you sure?) or for those in need of a humour transplant, go to: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gunning/ajcutler.html For those who _did_ get it, I hope you enjoyed a giggle. Jim Bailey purveyor of shamelessly bad puns. *note: this item doesn't actually exist, so don't go looking for it! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 09:52:18 +1000 From: "Keenan, Owen" Subject: Re: Crimson in the movies (ENO) <<"jesscott" wrote Here is a trivia question in this vein: Name three references to Brian Eno in film.>> I can't do all three, but I beleive this is an extra one: Eno's "Skysaw" (with RF) is featured (music and reference to ENO) in the Australian cult hit from the mid 80's DOGS IN SPACE...(featuring Michael Hutchence, who adaquately demonstrates why he wasn't famous for his acting). The setting of the movie is a share house in Melbourne circa 1978ish populated by all sorts of shady/colourful youth."Skysaw" is featured as one of the flatmates favourite bonking songs, but the LP is owned by another householder. So the residents are forewarned of bonking whenever the former person asks to borrow the latter persons ENO LP. Soundtrack CD worth getting hold of, if you can find it! Features Mick H, ENO, Ollie Olsen, Iggy Pop, (Aussie undergound Icons) Thrush and the C*nts, Boys next Door, etc. etc. etc. Based on a true story, too. O! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:19:23 -0500 (EST) From: DANNYSTAMPER at webtv dot net (DANNY STAMPER) Subject: VH1 100 Greatest Hard Rock Bands Can anyone tell me where the 3 second clip of the interview with Robert Fripp (shown during King Crimson's charting) came from, and where could I find/obtain this in it's entirety? Danny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:56:57 +1000 From: "Keenan, Owen" Subject: how high can you buy?? "Scheepers, Hans" & "Markus Gnad" both recently detailed marathon KC listening sessions in ET, my question is this: How many KC (or related) discs have ETers aquired at any one time?? My birthday is later this month and I will be increasing my, already large, collection by at least seven CDs: The ProjeKcts box & Heavy ConstruKction are both coming my way. I have also been promised a burned disk or two (etc.) of KC related product from the internet ( although this may not eventuate as the person who made the offer is unreliable). Any higher offers O! P.S. Nb: I do not consider the burned CDRs to be a breach of the (unwritten) consumer code as I have no internet access myself (only work e-mail) and would otherwise be unable to enjoy these *free* releases. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 02:21:09 +0100 From: "Robert S." Subject: Brian Eno in Movies In response to Matthew's challenge: I've got just two references to Eno, 'cause I'm not a frequent moviegoer: - his composition credit - I think it was in "Trainspotting" - his music being played - I believe it was "Thursday Afternoon" (or "Music for Airports"?) on M. Rourke's hi-end player in "9 1/2 Weeks". I happen to have an Italian CD of Eno's music (Sonora Portrait No. 1). It's a compilation and its two tracks come from Derek Jarman's "Glitterbug", namely "Distant Hill" and "Strawinsky". I haven't seen this film (I believe it's a documentary), but the music is there, right? Robert S. P.S. I like the sport of being on the lookout for my heroes and their music in films and TV. I was overjoyed to see Frank Zappa in an episode of "Miami Vice". And Dweezil as well, in some really bad action movie whose title I don't recall now (starring A. Schwarzenegger, I believe). He was wearing a red beret on his head and was mowing people down with a machine gun. Easier than to surpass his Dad's guitar solos. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:06:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Weissenburger - Jeremy S." Subject: Re: KC Marathons Hans Scheepers wrote: >Hi CrimHeads! > >With the ending of this Century I spent this week with listening to my >collection of KC albums. [snip] >Has anyone tried such a marathon before? And what did you experience at >the end? Yes, being another Schizoid man, ready for the next Century. I did this once in college, listening to all of my Crimso albums and, er, "slighlty less than" authorized recordings, in sequential order. It gets kinda exhausting, actually. One problem I had was I'd be listening to the 80s Crimso, for example, and have a hankering for "The Sailor's Tale" all of a sudden. I also once listened to all of my music in alphabetic order by artist, and sequentially. Now _that_ was mind-numbing. --Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:35:35 -0600 From: Craig Subject: Use of "brass" >RE:From: "Markus Gnad" >Subject: The Club - Yeah! > > LIVE AT JACKSONVILLE 1972 >Goodness, the freakiest KC lineup of all times. Mel is a beast, and Ian >and >Boz are very. relaxed yet >still sick. "Still sick"? (This is a good thing, huh?) >Anybody can tell me please if this band is being filed under >prog rock? Which prog band has >focussed on the use of brass, mainly saxophone - both on studio and >mainly >live? FYI: The saxophone is *not* a brass instrument. It is a reed instrument (like the clarinet). Brass would be trumpet, tuba, trombone, etc. There are, of course, many equally superb prog bands which "focused on the use of saxophone - both on studio and mainly live?" Such as,............... Soft Machine, Van Der Graaf Generator, Urban Sax, Etron Fou Leloublan, Albert Marcoeur, etc. etc Check `em out. ~Craig ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:37:37 -0700 From: "Proginoskes" Subject: Re: Giles Giles & Fripp lyrics I have worked on getting the lyrics from this album, through repeated listenings. (I don't know of anyone who has the "real" lyrics.) My attempts can be found at http://public.asu.edu/~checkma/Tab/ggflyr.html The page is due for some revision ... for instance, "Ninety miles north" (in "Digging My Lawn") should actually be "Nein, you must not." Also, one of the lines in "Elephant Song" is wrong. (Thanks, Paul Merritt!) ... So any suggestions anyone can make will be welcome. -- Christopher Heckman checkman at math dot la dot asu dot edu P.S. I have word from Eric Tamm that a hypertext version of his Fripp book is in preparation. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:50:02 -0000 From: "Richard Heath" Subject: More mistranslations Following the current 'mistranslations' thread, I recently purchased the McDonald and Giles album on CD. The only way I seemed to have of getting hold of it was on Japanese import from the US (I'm in the UK) which, especially with the import duty, made it pretty expensive. Anyway, for some reason the printed lyrics appear to have been transcribed from the record by a non-native English speaker (presumably Japanese), which produces some interesting results - the opening line of 'Turnham Green', for example, comes out as "The some shone sill turn up green", while 'Flight Of The Ibis' begins "Look into your eyes/Your eyes look away some tea" (reflecting cultural preoccupations?). Does anyone have any idea why it may have been done this way? Were the lyrics not printed on the European or US editions of the album? Richard Heath ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:21:37 From: "Dan Ceo" Subject: HC DVD I've seen a few posts on the coded DVD of Heavy ConstruKction. I was wondering what the benefits are of entering this code and if I could possibly vidi the disc without having to mess with it. If anyone can send me something off list on the info and how to do it, I would really appreciate it. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:03:30 From: "Matt D" Subject: krimson item on ebay Here is an item i have on eBay King crimson Studio rehearsals check out ebay for more details search King crimson (obviously) *********************************************************** Matt Deibert Check out Spacestation Integration MP3's www.mp3.com/SSI *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:08:31 -0000 From: "John Holmes" Subject: Australaysia as far as i can gather from information available, Crimson have never made there way down to Australaysia(Austarlia, New Zealand, Indonesia, Malaysia). Do they ever plan to, or do they have some reason not to. It's not as if no one would go, they have a big enough fanbase here to maybe fill three club shows in each major city ruhoff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:28:52 -0000 From: "Stephen P. Goodman" Subject: "Kyoto Garden" Released at MP3 and IUMA "Kyoto Garden" is Stephen's new release in MP3 format, and is now available for downloading/listening on both the MP3.com (http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman)and IUMA (http://StephenGoodman.iuma.com) sites. It is a restful ambient piece, in the pace of a relaxing walk, and inspired by The Kyoto Garden in Holland Park, Kensington London. Keep watching the EarthLight Studios site at http://www.earthlight.net/Studios for the video to accompany this work, which we are planning on releasing 20 January 2001, online and in broadcast form! Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions-Studios ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:48:33 EST From: Jaz6x6 at aol dot com Subject: The Effect this Music Has on Me!! I have been an on-off fan of KC for about 5 or 6 years now, since "Thrak" came out. You can believe that I played the heck out of that, so much that the tape kinda dissapeared within the cassette (has that happened to anybody else here?). Yet, anyhow, i've become a bigger fan in the last few months since "Heavy Construktion" 3 disc set came out. And, as a kid of 14 or so, reading that long article with Mr. Fripp in "Guitar Magazine", i've almost constantly found myself seeing this man as an enigma of sorts. First of all, he is almost the complete opposite of a rock star: he's a smallish, well-dressed, succinct British fellow! And adding to the matter that he's so intelligent, speaks for the little people when need be (no pun intended), and the concepts and ideas of DGM. I'm very excited for all musicians who play what they feel to be able to get their music out to a larger audience. So, Mr. Fripp, all I really can say to you is this: you are who I look to as the leader of Music for now and for the future. Plus, I cannot describe how beautiful, gentle, swaying, incredible, that Soundscape recordings are to my ears and my soul. I strongly support all future releases of this music. So, there it is, my letter of appreciation and admiration to Robert Fripp and the music that he and his bandmates are creating. Thank you very much for giving us the music for all of these years. Brandon Stanley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:00:02 +1300 From: "Geoff" Subject: It Must Be Hard To Be A Rock Musician Hi all, Thanks for the support you all gave me from my last post. Notes From A Young Crimson Enthusiast. I'd just like to discuss a little judgement I have made. The judgement is that being a Rock Musician is very hard. Both Physically and Mentally. Being A successful musician is a dream for a lot of people. The Fame, the money (both not in Fripp's case) and the ability to spread your personal musical taste and sound throughout the world. Some people (not ETers) may think that being Musicians would be easy and all rewarding. This is certainly untrue (in my opinion). With any profession or living there is always a down side. Physically you have to preform a massive amount of concerts. Not to mention being on the road for a large percent of the year. Separated at times with your family and friends. On top of that you have to practise the songs you preform and perfect your guitar craft (as Fripp would say), drumming etc. It also can be Mentally challenging and what you could say disturbing. You have to be interviewed often and the interviewers would probably ask the same questions that you have heard and answered a few hundred times before! Then there the pressure of drugs, excess alcohol and indulgence. (Fripp has disciplined himself well not being tempted by any of these, from what I have heard, Good Show). Many Rock musicians have fallen into this mental trap. Take a look at Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison from the Doors and there are many many others. Even Fripp himself almost suffered a mental breakdown before he went to Shelbourne to recuperate and learn to survive. I think this post is getting to long so I will end it soon. It is amazing that Robert Fripp has survived this rather scary profession of being a Musician and maintained his mental health and good humour. Was it the help from the teaching of Gurdjieff and J.G.Bennett that helped RF or was it his own determination to survive and to stay a clean and honest as he can the factor of his success as a person. Only Fripp himself can answer that. I hope you can see that being a Musician is a hard job and that you must understand the pressure that the Members of KC and other bands have on them. So next time you are a bit disappointed by the band, or RF walks off the stage due to flash photography just remember the pressure he has being I Musician. Thanks, Geoff ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #797 ********************************