Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #758 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 758 Tuesday, 7 November 2000 Today's Topics: GIG BIZ: Tickets for KC at Berklee, Boston GIG BIZ: crim audients connection page Will there be additional Crim dates? CENTROZOON : Update (New Files / Contest) Re: Gong - Crimson Connection Ramblings Your only option Crimson Jazz? Sour Shows Re: Connections Gong-Crimson Bruford's timing, Audience behaviour, club releases, TCOL KC mention in The New Yorker re : fireballet Re: The new Radiohead album Re: Radiohead/Gong King Crimson USA on Russian CD Australian Tour Re: Connections Gong-Crimson Gong - Crimson Connection(s) Roland GR300/GR700 users groups Re: GIG REVIEW: Two Nights in Chicago GIG REVIEW: Comments on Cleveland GIG REVIEW: The Majestic Theatre, Detroit--11/5/00 GIG REVIEW: KC at Cleveland Odeon ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.htm You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.7b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 02:30:16 -0500 From: Michael McGrath Subject: GIG BIZ: Tickets for KC at Berklee, Boston On eBay, someone is selling two 8th row orchestra center tickets for 83.50, face value plus Ticketmaster charges. Item # 490025022. They will only accept first offer of this amount, as it is not a waging war. Hopefully Toby can post this soon. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 06:24:33 -0500 From: Dave Subject: GIG BIZ: crim audients connection page Hey gang... Just sending another reminder... http://www.midnightmecca.com/vbpro/crimso/index.html is still up and running, awaiting posts from/for Crimsos going to shows (US and world-wide) that want to find others needing or having spare tix/hotel space/etc to swap/sell/share. Drop in! Thanx Dave See ya in Philly! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 04:00:44 -0500 From: jaleach2 Subject: Will there be additional Crim dates? Greetings, Please forgive me if this question has already been addressed. Does anyone know if additional U.S. Crim dates will be added at some point (in the new year, etc.?). I was hoping there might be a possibility of this, as I can't make it to any of this month's shows. It seems that there are no shows in the southern U.S. taking place; perhaps later or not? regards J.D. Leach ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:35:19 -0000 From: "Lee Fletcher" Subject: CENTROZOON : Update (New Files / Contest) Dear ETers, Here's the latest news from Markus Reuter and Co. @ http://www.centrozoon.de. (This news has also been posted to the DGM Guestbook.) The public production is gathering momentum, as 'Bibbiboo' begins to find her form... Producer Derek Difilippo has now uploaded the first six FULL LENGTH mixes for public scrutiny. Check them out for free, and join in the fun... To aid those of you with slow connections or costly Internet access, Derek has now provided RealAudio equivalents for streaming / download. (Please note that the current 'full length' mp3s will be removed after 10th November.) Big news! - In the spirit of this public production CENTROZOON have announced a free contest to name the (as yet untitled) tracks. The winning authors will ultimately see their titles displayed on the ensuing 'Cult Of : Bibbiboo' CD, (in addition to receiving a copy of the band's debut album 'Blast' / plus an official T-shirt.) A dedicated Contest Page will shortly be set-up, but in the meantime you can register your entries in the Public Production area. If you missed my original post and are consequently wondering what the heck I'm talking about, then I suggest pointing your browser towards http://www.centrozoon.de to sample the divine beast :-) We hope to see you there. Regards, Lee Fletcher. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 07:51:14 -0700 From: Neil Corkindale Subject: Re: Gong - Crimson Connection Ramblings Just bought the 30th. Anniversary edition of "Red". In the booklet it shows the "Melody Maker (UK) charts for October 26 1974. Gong's brilliant LP "You" had entered the charts at number 14, "Red" had entered at 18 and ELP's "Welcome Back..." at 30. I was surprised because I don't remember Gong being that popular. I'm English and was a Gong fan (as well as Crimson and ELP) living in England at that time. Also, I was surprised about ELP's "poor" showing. I do remember that "Brain Salad Surgery" had entered at number 2 (from memory), so the success of that LP didn't carry over to the live recording of the "Brain Salad Surgery" world tour. Thanks Neil PS I love the "30th. Anniversary" Crimson releases! The sound quality isn't a major upgrade over the "Definitive" editions, but the packaging is! I'm giving my definitive editions to a friend who I think will become a Crimson fan. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:30:59 CET From: "Marcus Enochsson" Subject: Your only option Hello friends and enemies on ET! As mentioned by Markus Gnad in a previous ET digest, I have written and recorded some music that may B of interest to other KC fans. Well, why then? Well, because: 1) I listen a lot to King Crimson and related music, and I like it! Even a lot. Even a huge lot. 2) The music I make is made with the purpose to be music that I like a huge lot. 3) I am a perfectionist and am pleased with the outcome of my work. So, if you could say "1)" and not lie, accept "2)" and chose to trust that "3)" is true, and an indication that the time taken to check out my music MAY be worth the effort, you should check out my music. And it's out-checkable at http://www.mp3.com/zealous where you can download and/or listen to my 12 tracks, forming my CD "Things you didn't know you would listen to". Why Zealous? Well, because I decided to skip a name that pays homeage to his royal Crimness, since my music does that well enough. So I scrapped "Fripp the Hip and the Dopeflash Abortions", "Boot my butt" and "ProjeKct seX". I suppose some may want to listen to the tracks with the highest Kcrim-faKctor. Well, look at the short track descriptions and listen your way to your favourite tracks. If you like it, feel VERY free to spread the word and the music. Who cares for royalties anyway? Sincerely yours, Marcus Enochsson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:40:44 -0600 From: "Grant Colburn" Subject: Crimson Jazz? Adrian Sutton wrote: >I recently saw Bill with his Earthworks band >an was struck by how fine a jazz drummer his is. I since listened to "SABB" >and realised that this is a JAZZ album. In fact much of King Crimson music >is Jazz. Now let's not go insane here, shall we? It may well be a 70's progressive rock album (which in itself usually implies a mixture of rock, jazz, classical etc.) but KC is hardly jazz, particularly on SABB. Drumming is only 1/4 of the band sound. There's no real jazz structure to the music or jazz chords from the guitar, violin or keys. Does it have 'elements' of jazz due to Bruford? Sure, but saying "Crimson IS jazz" doesn't make any more sense than saying 80's Crimson IS Gamallan (sp?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:55:51 EST From: ChalkPie88 at aol dot com Subject: Sour Shows Hello ET'ers: I am a HUGE Crimson Fanatic. I am also worried. Next week I'll be attending two shows in NYC at The Supper Club and Town Hall. It seems there have been a few posts of late regarding Mr. Fripp stopping performances during the middle of an improv because some ass is screaming "Starless"or "Cat Food". First let me say that I agree 100% that Mr. Fripp has every right to request no photos/recording. I am not at all arguing that point. What boggles my mind is why should the rest of the audience be punished because of one or two drunk assholes who have no respect? The logical procedure to take would be to throw their asses onto the street in front of oncoming yellow cabs. But don't punish the rest of us who have NOTHING at all to do with their rude behavior, and want nothing less than to enjoy some of the greatest music on the planet. If you are planning to attend next weeks shows in NYC, I have but one request -honor Mr. Fripp's wishes and please don't spoil the show for the rest of the us. And if by some slim chance Mr. Fripp sees this post - if there is rude behavior by one or two disrespectful audients, please don't spoil the show for the rest of us. Sincerely, Frank ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:31:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lucas Bleicher Subject: Re: Connections Gong-Crimson "Girard, Serge [JanBe Extern] wrote Markus Gnad wrote: >> Yesterday I saw GONG. They rule!!!! Any connections >> Gong-Crimson? >I also saw GONG (twice last motnh); they certainly > rule !!! Oh, yeah. I have the CDs You and Gazeuse!. The second is the best prog-fusion CD I own. It has Allan Holdsworth on guitar. > Connection is Bill Bruford. I don't think they ever > recorded something, but maybe they did some gigs or > rehearsels. I found this info in a 'family > tree' of Gong a few years ago. Anyone out there who > can confirm? In fact Bill Bruford DID recorded with Gong. He plays on side B of the album "You" (Moerlen plays on side A), although there's no credit in the booklet (probably because of record labels matters). This album "You" is an interesting mixture of psychedelics noises, crazy words, jazzy drumming and very nice sax solos. Lucas Bleicher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:20:44 -0500 From: "ccoulterwsc" Subject: Bruford's timing, Audience behaviour, club releases, TCOL Hi KrimHeads, sorry to raise some ire, but: 1. Re. Bruford "out of time". Are people actually concerned the guy doesn't know how to play properly? Hello!? Is this why the hacks in Yes and Crimson invited him to join them? I don't get it. Maybe these people prefer Ringo's 4/4? 2. Re. Audience shouting requests, flashes, recording, etc. Ya, there's always a coupla goofs at a concert who need to be told to shut up, stop bootlegging, take off their hats, but come on! Stopping the song or show because of it? Big babies. Bad manners. Period. And I'm talking about the band. And many here seem to be supportive of this attitude. Is this Rock music? Everyone has to baby Fripp otherwise he won't tour, is that it? Is he really that great a live performer, anyway? What's happens if the band can hear the audience snoring? Do they turn up and play some mind-boggling repetitive atonal crap as punishment? 3. DGM will seemingly do anything to milk you of your money.The idea is great, no question about that, but Fripp's quality control? I dunno... Some of these collector's club releases are SO bad, one wonders about the artistic vision that allows them to be released by the band. Would anyone buy these from a bootlegger? Probably not. But adoring fans are loyal and the official seal makes it legit in their eyes. What's next? A mono mix of every recording - three different box sets, one panned to right, one left, one centre? 4. Okay, I've only listened to TCOL three times and I guess I'm willing to give it another chance because I do so LOVE many of Crimson's albums, but really folks, it seems really rushed, unfinished, and boring. Technically brilliant, of course, some nice spots, but overall - yawn. Maybe I was just too hyped-up after the incredible Thrak and B'Boom. Are Adrian and Fripp taking the Belew-bashing to heart, and toning down Belew's songs and lyrics? BIG mistake in my books. Looking forward to the next release and the Toronto concert! If they act like babies and walk off stage, we'll go and drag 'em back out. Now THAT would be some interesting band-audient interaction! I wonder what security is like at these shows? ;o) -Christian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:59:42 -0500 From: "Tom X. Chao" Subject: KC mention in The New Yorker Apologies if someone else mentioned this already: In Nick Hornby's review of Radiohead's "Kid A," he writes: "Older listeners may have heard 'Paranoid Android' and been uncomfortably reminded of experiences they would rather forget--such as sitting in a field somewhere and nodding appreciatively to the sounds of King Crimson or Emerson, Lake & Palmer, best-forgotten seventies bands whose songs and solos were way too long." The New Yorker, Oct 30, 2000, p. 105. (cover features Hillary wearing both Mets and Yankees caps) Ouch! Well, he tips his hand by pulling the ill-informed mistake of lumping KC in with ELP. TXC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:53:23 +0100 From: "Pierre SIGALAS" Subject: re : fireballet Fireballet recorded a second album "two, too", a bit strange... and far less interesting than the first. And then... disappeared (?). Night on bald Mountain has been reedited on CD, but mixed from the LP. Pierre Sigalas (from France) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:51:16 -0600 From: Mike Champagne Subject: Re: The new Radiohead album I can't comment on "Kid A" as I have yet to hear it but the previous two Radiohead releases, "OK Computer" and, before that, "The Bends" are both excellent, IMHO. I have never heard their first album, so I cannot offer any comment on it. There are certainly crim-like moments on both of these, though, and many beautiful melodies. Most songs run the gamut, from soft and pretty to blistering, in itself a crim-hallmark of sorts, but not definitive by any means. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:51:02 -0500 (EST) From: Darryl Subject: Re: Radiohead/Gong Howdy Extra-Terrestrials, ChalkPie88 at aol dot com asked if the hype over Radiohead's new album is worth it. I would say YES! Indeed, Trey had great comments about "Kid A", but I also think Pat mentioned it in one of his diaries, although I'm not 100% sure on that. Definately one of my favourite albums of this year(in fact, it's the first new release I bought since TCoL). Unlike "OK Computer"(1997) or "The Bends"(1995), there's no Fripp-like guitar parts, but 'The National Anthem' somehow reminds me of 'Sailor's Tale'. Radiohead have sure come a LONG way since they're most well known song 'Creep' from '93/'94(even that song has an almost Fripp-ish guitar part near the end of it). It IS a love/hate album, apparently Billboard only gave it half a star, while others say it's the best album of the year. Your average Creed or Matchbox Twenty fan probably wouldn't like it, but I'm damn sure most people on this list would LOVE it. As for the Gong/KC connection, I'll admit I don't know very much about Gong except the basic career history of Daevid Allen. But, I would like to mention that I once read a review of "Islands" on ET-Web where the submiter claimed that either 'Formentera Lady' or the title track(I forget which) sounded to them more like Gong than Crimson. Here's a few connections I wonder about, if anyone knows: KC/Soft Machine KC/Caravan KC/Captain Beefheart KC/Traffic KC/Hawkwind KC/Yes/ELP(just kidding!!!) Darryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 02:34:50 -0500 From: Michael McGrath Subject: King Crimson USA on Russian CD Apparently, a Russian entity has sold (including to me) about 6 -10 USA CDs on eBay. I can vouch that they are in excellent condition, and are well worth it (mine, I paid I think $30 US for). Anyway, the email is accessible via eBay, but as a fellow ETer will tell you it is depoy at user dot ru ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:28:56 +1100 From: "Alan Todhunter" Subject: Australian Tour There has beem much speculation that King Crimson may add Australia to their tour. Can anyone comment. Sydney with the Olympics has been getting so much attention. (apologies to those who saw our musical successes). Early this year Hawkwind toured Australia. They made it very laid back (enjoying Australia's low dollar to the US) but the matter of seeing someone play music that wasn't produced by by a trendy "haircut" manager was so refreshing. I started a thread last year but to no consequence. Alan Todhunter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:02:16 -0500 From: Bob Pascarella Subject: Re: Connections Gong-Crimson Gong is a band that is difficult to track. There were many incarnations of this band over it's history. I don't believe you will find Bill Bruford's recording credit on any Gong album. My understanding of his contributions to the band is that Bill was part of what was called The Canterbury Scene through the 1960's and early '70's. He most likely performed live with Gong on an occassion or two but never recorded with the group. I know that Charles Hayward and Rachid Houari were drummers on the first Gong record. Then Pip Pyle and Pierre Moerlen recorded on several others. Then in the latter part of the band's history there was a split with Daevid Allen's wife (Gilly Smyth) starting a band called Mother Gong (no idea if Bruford was associated with this). There were several other Gong off-shoots that he could have been part of..but I would say that this is unlikely. But my best attempt at "4 Degrees of King Crimson" would be Andy Summers and Soft Machine. This band also had Daevid Allen in it and I'm sure members of this group are aware of Fripp/Summers collaborations. Listen to Gong music. It is very interesting. Robert Pascarella ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:42:18 -0500 From: "Peter.K.Geddes" Subject: Gong - Crimson Connection(s) Depending on how many degrees of separation you want to get into there are a couple connections between Gong and King Crimson -- - As was previously mentioned, Bruford did a French(?) tour with Gong in 1974 or 1975. Whenever it was, it was only a month or something. - Current Gong sax blower Theo Travis (who has also played with neo-proggers Porcupine Tree) did a jazz gig with Bill Bruford once, apparently. - Bill Bruford was in an early version of Brand X (or so I've heard), whose drum chair was later filled by Gong's Pierre Moerlen. - Bill Bruford was in early version of National Health (he was in alot of bands, wasn't he?) which also included Gong's axe-man Steve Hillage at one point (don't have the Nat'l Health CD here ("Missing Pieces") to see if they were in the same line-up or not). Gong drummer Pip Pyle also was in Nat'l Health too if I remember correctly, either before or after Bill Bruford (maybe both). I'm sure there are more, even more obscure connections. Can't wait to see 'em! Like, are there any King Crimson connections to peripheral Gong members Kevin Ayers and Don Cherry? Happy hunting, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:07:52 -0600 From: "chris bogen" Subject: Roland GR300/GR700 users groups ETers, Does anybody know of a strong online user's group for the GR300/GR700 Roland Guitar synthesizers? I have looked all over the web and can only find limited information. For those who do not know, Fripp and Belew used the GR300 and GR700 extensively on the Discipline, Beat, and TOAPP albums. Also, does anybody know a technician that specializes with these hard to find units? Perhaps there is a technician out there who makes the pickup systems, cables, footpedals, etc. that go along with the GR300/GR700s. If anybody has information regarding this topic, please post it. I am sure there must be a few other folks like me who are digging for support for these analog beauties. By the way, I do not intend to generate a digital VS analog debate with this post. thanks alfred c. bogen mississippi, usa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:17:58 -0600 From: "Michael Sheehan" Subject: Re: GIG REVIEW: Two Nights in Chicago I rarely de-lurk but felt the need to clarify something: Michael Flaherty wrote: "There was also a very short P3 set (ruined by an audience member) . . . The P3 set was ruined by a drunk yelling for "Starless" during Fripp's Soundscape ... Fripp stopped playing and they moved to Trey's set piece, which was a highlight." The "P3 set" was actually a number called "Deception of the Thrush." And although a couple of people did the customary yelling, this was not a case of Fripp stopping because of the yell and the band moving to "Trey's set piece." This is the normal flow of the number. And Robert continued to play behind Trey's (beautiful) solo. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:54:39 -0500 From: "Mark Stansbery" Subject: GIG REVIEW: Comments on Cleveland Not really a review, just some observations and comments. After a 4 1/2 hour drive and stopping to pick up an old high school buddy, we arrived in Cleveland. As we waited outside for the doors to open, I was surprised by the number of both female and younger persons among the usual earnest no-longer-young men, most with facial hair. It was the most diverse crowd for a Crimson show I have seen in the past 28 years! The crowd was a good 25% women and I did not witness a single one dragging her man out of the place by his hair once the aural assault began. One more thing about the crowd -- no camera flashed, no one smoked, and there was only one lone guy calling out for "Easy Money" -- all in all a nice group to stand with for a couple of hours or so. The band was great. Not perfect, but great (and who wants perfection anyway). Anyone who doubts that the quartet, or 'double duo', is entitled to call themselves King Crimson rest assured. For me the improvs (P3 half way through and on Deception as an encore) were the highlights. One nice thing about the 4 member group is that Trey Gunn really gets a chance to step forward. The second tune of the night was Thela Hun Ginjeet & to these ears, they have taken this tune to a new place. Robert Fripp was just amazing. FraKctured and Lark's IV were just a joy to witness! My high school friend had not heard KC since the S&BB days. I let him know ahead of time that he would not be hearing 21SCM or anything from Posiedon (his favorite KC album). His comment on the show: The best concert he has ever been to where he had no expectation of what he was going to hear. If KC is playing anywhere close (like within 300 miles or so) and you are still thinking if it is worth the trip - stop thinking and make plans - GO!! As usual, thanks to Toby & Co. for their efforts. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 05:57:14 GMT From: "Dan Ceo" Subject: GIG REVIEW: The Majestic Theatre, Detroit--11/5/00 This was my first King Crimson concert and this sums up my reaction: Wow! Wow! Wow! My overall point of view: Fripp, the consummate professional (or as my dad put it after the show, "The Mad Scientist behind the band"), letting his fingers move faster than any other guitarist I've seen and I've seen quite a few (i.e. Jeff Beck, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Pete Townshend); Adrian Belew, very accessible, having lots of fun, enjoyed the audience's reaction and was very responsive to it, his playing was very worthy of Hendrix, Vaughan or Van Halen, definitely deserves the title "King of the Whammy Bar"; Trey Gunn, very fluid bass playing, lots of finger tapping, moved around on stage just as much as his hands did, made sounds that I've never heard any other bassist make before; Pat Mastellotto, kept the rhythm and the timing for everyone, changed time signatures from fast to slow to moderate very smoothly and precisely on time. The set list was pretty much the same as their first show in Chicago, minus "Heroes." The sound was perfect, my dad and I stood about four rows of people away from the stage and it wasn't too loud, either, which was very nice and convenient. Two gripes I have about it: a.) The Majestic Theatre was in even worse condition than I had heard, the owner of the place could at least put some effort into renovations, and the location was awful as well--granted, there are probably worse places in Detroit, but I really didn't like the fact that as I was waiting outside before the doors opened, bums would come around trying to make whatever twisted conversation they could think of, oh, and by the way, could we spare some money because they've run into some bad luck today, let alone the past year or ten; b.) it would have been nice if there were some seats in the place, I didn't mind standing for three and a half hours, but my dad has some back problems along with some minor health problems...nothing too serious right now, but by the time we got home his whole body was aching. Otherwise, I had a magnificent time and the show from my point of view was incredible. Some highlights for me: "The ConstruKction of Light," "Larks Tongues in Aspic Pt. IV/Coda: I Have a Dream," the improvs, "Elephant Talk," "Frame By Frame," the acoustic version of "Three of a Perfect Pair," actually, you know what? I really don't know. All the songs were great! The playing was more than excellent, but it was fun to see Robert Fripp and Co. make some mistakes here and there. I couldn't keep my eyes on one person at one time. What was great was the fact that here was a band that I'd seen numerous photos of standing right in front of me. I really looked forward to watching who played what parts during certain sections of songs, especially on the TCoL material; I loved watching Fripp and Belew doing the interlocking guitars and I still can't get over how fast RF was playing, especially during "FraKctured," or how superfluously (I hope I'm using the right word) fluid the rhythm section was. This was the first time I've seen someone use V-drums and Pat uses them to great effect, I wonder how he could remember which sounds to trigger from which pads since he had so many around him. It also never ceases to amaze me how Fripp's Soundscapes make his guitar sound like a synthesizer one moment and a piano the next. The show was very enjoyable for both myself and my father and a nice bridging of generations (my dad introduced me to KC's music via their first album years ago and as a "thank you" he bought me a "21st Century Schizoid Man Shirt"). In closing, I'd like to say, thank you for coming to Detroit and I hope to see you guys many more times in the very near future and thanks for a very pleasing, entertaining show. I wish I didn't have to work on Monday night or I'd come see your second show without any argument. Dan Ceo PS-Does anyone know what the release date for Heavy ConstruKction is? I seem to miss that part in these posts. Can't wait to listen to my newly acquired copy of ProjeKct X-"Heaven and Earth." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:41:37 -0500 From: Mark Berton Subject: GIG REVIEW: KC at Cleveland Odeon Just returned to Pittsburgh from the concert yesterday in Cleveland and all I can say is WOW. Arrived three hours early and was the first one in. Mr. Fripp and Mr. Belew both came out the front door and were very polite to the four of us who arrived that early. There was a very strict recording device/camera search, but that is to be expected; and the show was a sellout- 850 I am told. The music itself was incredible. Set list included: Frame By Frame, Elephant Talk, Prozac Blues, Fractured off of Construktion of Light, Thela Hun Ginjeet, and many, many more. Belew did a very moving solo acoustic rendition of Three of a Perfect Pair. Not to spoil the fun for anyone, I won't release more tunes. Expect most of the new album and some great improvs, though. I think the most impressive aspect of the show was that I got to see how accomplished Trey Gunn has become. While he definitely is not Tony Levin, he adds his own flair and personality to the stick lines Mr. Levin origi nated. The pieces he wrote for COL are exquisite and he improved a beautiful melody over a soundscape by Fripp and Pat that rivaled "Trio." Fripp and Belew were as tight as ever and as for Pat, I am just perplexed that the man can move all four appendages in such a bizarre fashion. Bruford is famous for his offbeat snare, but Pat is playing a rhythm that is both off and natural. It's not about counting and beats, it is expression in the purest context of the word. ---If anyone can get to this show, by any means go. Also, there were quite a few younger Crimson fans in attendance, myself included, which is refreshing to see. Thank you to Mr. Fripp and company. You have touched the soul of so many people. And please come to Pittsburgh more often! Mark Berton "Je ne touche plus que le coeur des choses je tiens le fil" - Andre Breton ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #758 ********************************