Elephant Talk #651 (as text)

1 April 2000



Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:52:29 -0500
From: Dave & Racqui <frippnotised at dca dot net>
Subject: GIG BIZ: Nashville meeting page
(Thought I'd run this a few more times before the Nashville
Shows. I hope no one minds....)

I've set up a very simple page at
http://www.midnightmecca.com/vbpro/crimso/index.html It's in
a guestbook-like format, set up for Crimsos going to
Nashville that want to find others needing or having spare
tix/hotel space to swap/sell/share. Please visit and sign
in, whether you're looking for spare tix/rooms or not.

Thanx
Dave

(BTW, I have mine already =o)

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 01:59:22 +0200
From: marek jedlinski <eristic at lodz dot pdi dot net>
Subject: GIG BIZ: Upcoming Euro shows - what material?
Just a brief question. The act is billed as King Crimson; is it just a
marketing strategy, or is the setlist going to be limited to King Crimson
material, rather than the ProjeCKts? Yep, my decision to purchase the
horribly expensive ticket does hinge on that. TIA,

.marek jedlinski

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:05:42 GMT
From: aal at aws dot co dot uk
Subject: Elephant Talk #649 & Islands;Qango;Uk dates?
Hello from London

There has been a lot of discussion of the Islands album recently. I always
remembered Islands as being a rather weak album having bought it on vinyl.
It was something that didn't get played a lot although I could remember
snatches of Formentera Lady, Sailor's Tale and the Letter and think they
were worth listening to.

I decided to get Islands on CD just to complete my collection (before the
remasters) and for quite some time the album hardly left my CD player. I
think the safest thing to say about the album is that it is not very
representative of the KC sound. Make that sounds, as every incarnation had
its own distinctive sound. I was so taken with the album that it became my
priority to pick up bootlegs from that era and I have got "Schizoids at
the Dome" (Brighton 1971) and "Strange Tales of the Sailors" (the concert
on KCCC9 - excluding "Creator..."). I would love to hear a better version
of a 1971 concert (I also have Earthbound on vinyl).

There has been comment to the effect that no-one knows who had the actual
rights to the Earthbound recordings. Before the release of Epitaph I bought
the 21st Century Schizoid Man CD with five versions from the song; Studio;
Studio short; Live - from Epitaph due next year; Live - from Earthbound II
due later next year; and Live - from USA II due even later. I can't
remember exactly when this was but it must have been the year before
Epitaph was released. My question is why have Earthbound II and USA II
still not emerged? USA II is not so important as we have Great Deceiver
and Night Watch but Earthbound II would be a great release. Does anyone
know what happened to the plans for these releases?

I recommended Qango to Asia fans. Someone asked if I would recommend them
to KC fans. Well, I would because I liked them. If you are not familiar
with Asia's work (or John Wetton's) they were a very glossily produced
band of John Wetton, Carl Palmer, Steve Howe and Geoff Downes. The music
is very polished with no raw edges and had quite a commercial sound to it.
Try it, you might like it.

Are there any plans for the Double Duo to hit the UK?

Thanks for listening
Andrew Lehva
LONDON

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:30:35 -0600
From: Don Lawrence <DLawrence at fkp dot com>
Subject: Islands Remaster
I just received the remastered 30th anniversary edition of Islands.
I still feel this is one of the best KC recordings ever. It served as a fine
transition from the first three to the glorious Wetton/Fripp/Bruford band.
Salior's Tale is a phenomenal piece. This package is superbly done and
highly recommended.
Don

>> KC music is like sex.  At its worst it is better than anything
else.  ( The one arguable exception being Earthbound)  Islands is definitely
an excellent album if you are taking an open or pro approach to it.<<

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:31:16 EST
From: Scour12345 at aol dot com
Subject: USA, Earthbound, and "I Have A Dream"
Her's a few suggestions I'd like to throw out: First, since the Earthbound,
and USA re-issue projects seem to be lost in limbo somewhere, how about
releasing them through the K.C. collectors' club? They could be vol. 12 & 13,
or 13 & 14. And as far as the Earthbound sound quality being very poor:
Listen to the KCCC vol. 1, live at the Marque...now if that show can be
released, why not Earthbound? With all the digital technology available, I'm
sure it can be cleaned up a little bit... My next suggestion goes out to
Adrian Belew: How about putting the "I Have A Dream" track on your upcoming
"Dust" box-set? It makes perfect sense.

    Dave (scour12345 at aol dot com)

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:15:32 +0604
From: Alain Proulx <alain dot proulx2 at tr dot cgocable dot ca>
Subject: North american tour dates...
I don't know if somebody has the information but I'd just like to know
what is the targetted date for the North American wing of the
forthcoming Crimson date.

Al

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:17:41 -0500
From: "David Cohen" <David_Cohen at Emcore dot com>
Subject: tony levins label
How can someone already by critisizing Tony Levins decision to go with
Narada music?  Tony Levins been in the business for quite a few years, he
runs his own label, I think he knows what he is doing.  Perhaps he wanted
widespread distribution for this release, perhaps he wanted some of the
promotion that an established label like Narada can provide (already seen
it advertised in Billboard).  If he's gonna go with any label, Narada is as
good as any label out there.  Would you rather see him on Jive records
competing with the Backstreet Boys for label attention?  Can't wait to see
the Tony Levin Band in concert!

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:02:31 +0100
From: fullcircleuk <fullcircleuk at netscapeonline dot co dot uk>
Subject: Lizard v Poseidon
If you're pondering over which to buy, I suggest you buy both.  (Maybe I
earn too much money - but they're both worth saving for).

Lizard is possibly the best album I possess, but then so too is Poseidon
- I could only rank them alongside all the other Crimso albums I have.
(Although I must admit, I think USA is "the" best).  At a push, I would
say - go for Lizard, Cirkus and Prince Rupert's Lament make it worth the
purchase price alone.  Cirkus was the first track I ever heard live -
ever - (excluding Joanne thingy - the support act - I could look it up,
as I still have the ticket in my archive cupboard), so obviously a key
moment in my sad and ageing life.

Whichever you buy - it will be SLENDID! - Enjoy, enjoy.  Life has never
been the same since my brother turned up one day with this grotesque
(but somehow beautiful) pink and purple album cover in 1969 and changed
my life forever.

Forever may it be changed.

Dave "can't wait for Prague" Willmott

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:11:45 +0100
From: fullcircleuk <fullcircleuk at netscapeonline dot co dot uk>
Subject: Turning it up
Someone recommended turning up "Islands" - I find that even "Earthbound"
sounds good if you do that ... fellow ageing Crimsoids with said album
might like to dust off the vinyll and give it a try.

Dave "do you remember those #1.50 deals" Willmott

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:29:54 -0500
From: pete <pjmcclym at erols dot com>
Subject: KC - Summit review
A bit cheeky of me to advertise my personal web site, but I've posted a
review of the Summit club release there.  There's also a review of the
Vroom sessions on the archived music pages.

It's not a KC site, just a collection my ramblings including a growing
collection of CD and concert reviews plus monthly play lists.  Feel free
to stop by and comment.  Why not suggest a review.

Pete McClymont
pjmcclym at erols dot com
http://connect.to/pete
http://members.xoom.com/mcclymontp/

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:36:48 -0600
From: Jordan <jordancohen at students dot wisc dot edu>
Subject: Help with Rhythm Buddies files?
Does anyone else have problems playing the .wma files on the new Rhythm
Buddies website?  It's very odd...I can open Windows Media Player and
then open the internet location of the files and play them (streaming
rather badly), but if I download them and try to play them I get a
"Cannot open: please check that filename and path are valid [file is
either corrupted or an invalid file type]" message.  Any ideas?

Jordan
jordancohen at students dot wisc dot edu

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:39:49 -0500
From: Todd Crane <tcrane at scripps dot edu>
Subject: Belew's Salad Days
Okay, I admit it.  I don't really know much about Belew's solo output.
Frankly, if it were not for his work in Crimson I would never of heard
of the guy.  However, I bought Salad Days at my local cd rip off
merchant...I mean store (is it me or did cd prices take another jump up
recently?!) and have become quite fond of this collection.  From what I
gather, it's an acoustic interpretation of a range of AB's work and it
makes for some great easy listening.  Easy in comparision to your
average KC disc.  Mellow, yet catchy, yet not too obvious.  Fun stuff.
Sooooo, this brings me to the obvious question.  Now that I've got this
collection, where should I head next?

All the best,
Todd

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 01:42:30 PST
From: "Peter Drubetskoy" <pdrubetskoy at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Celebration of the Lizard?
Hello.
Is this "Celebration of the Lizard" any allusion to "The Doors" piece with
the same name?
Peter.

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:56:08 -0500
From: Craig Clark <cjclark at earthlink dot net>
Subject: Frippertronics at Sakamoto show
Greetings, ETers.  Just wanted to let you know about another Fripp
sounding (or whatever -- what is the audio equivalent of a sighting?).

At Ryuichi Sakamoto's solo piano concert at the TLA in Philly on
Saturday night, he started his show with a 20-minute DJ set during which
he spun lots of different music, sounds, and textures.  It was an
interesting experiment and set the tone for the whole concert.  What is
of interest to ET is that the early part of the set was very
Frippertronics-heavy.  I imagine Sakamoto was playing something from LET
THE POWER FALL, but I couldn't name the specific piece.  It did fit in
well with everything else he was throwing into the mix (classic music,
whale song, Japanese children singing).

BTW, the show was great.  I recommend Sakamoto's BTTB and CINEMAGE to
anyone with open ears.

Craig J. Clark

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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:39:23 +0100
From: "David Hudson" <david at hudson999 dot freeserve dot co dot uk>
Subject: Fripp and Peter Gabriel's first album
I really like the blues guitar solo on "Waiting For The Big One".  Does
anyone know if this Fripp playing or is it the other guitarist on the album?  It's hard to work out Fripp's contribution to this album because he seems
to have totally ditched his usual distinctive sound and style of playing.
Maybe his contribution is minimal but if not then I can't think of any other
record Fripp has appeared on where his playing has been so intentionally
anonymous.  I always thought I could spot his guitar playing a mile off.

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:18:33 -0600
From: "Jeff, God of Biscuits" <badler at hehe dot com>
Subject: Posseidon/Lizard/ Islands remasters
Does anyone know if these are mail-order releases only? Shouldn't I be
seeing these along with the KC selections at my local music shop?

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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:41:04 -0700
From: ecerb at indra dot com (Elaine C. Erb)
Subject: Waters of Eden
I'm just getting caught up on my ET reading but wanted to respond to Dave'e
comment in ET 648.  Narada has gone through some major changes and one
should not discredit Tony's work for the label affiliation.  Narada is now
the chief distributor/representative for both Peter Gabriel's Real World
label and David Byrne's Luaka Bop records and falls under Virgin records.
In my experience in working with them through KGNU, the people at Narada
have been terrific and I have found some great music on Narada and the
affiliated labels.

That said, I have listened now to both Blue Nights and Waters of Eden.  For
anyone who has heard the California Guitar Trio's version of Waters of
Eden, you are in for  a bit of a shock with Tony's version. The piano and
cello overwhelm the playing of the trio, and while you can still clearly
hear Paul playing along with Tony, Bert and Hideyo are very surpressed in
the mix.  The cellist is nice and precise but a bit less passionate in
presentation than I would like.

Knowing that Tony has played with Peter Kater, I am amused that the opening
track is called Bone & Flesh.  Kater has recorded as a group called Flesh &
Bone.  It's a quiet start to the album, well played but bordering on that
space/new age edge.  The album does progress into the world and jazz
realms.  It's quite a challenge for me to figure out where we will classify
this in our record library.  Thankfully people are receptive to the
multiple classifications so rock with a jazz and space element may just
work.

Blue Nights on the other hand, hits the ground running.  I've only had a
brief chance to listen to this but was enjoying the range of edgy and
provocative material.  It felt a more fully realized album than BLUE, where
the experience of playing in the music did seem to round out their approach
to the music.

Yeah, I know this is a tease as these albums aren't officially released
yet.  I think both come out around April 11th, when Levin starts his next
tour with the CGT.  KGNU will be sponsoring a webcast of their show from
the Boulder Theatre on April 22nd.  Check in to www.cgtrio.com or
www.kgnu.org for more details.

-Elaine

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:59:42 +1000
From: "Sheila Zeeman" <sztgnym at turboweb dot net dot au>
Subject: Crimson Australian tour?
Hello ETers, First of all thanks to Toby, Dan, Mike and company for the
feedback etc, on all things Crim.
Regarding the disapointment of Australia missing out (yet again!) on a
Crimson gig or three, the total album/cd sales may not be the only reason
why the band does not tour here! Who can tell? The costs of lugging
everything downunder from Japan, and tour promotors renowned for the
proverbial 'who?' when they are contacted about obscure 'progressive' bands
from the 70's showing an interest in the land of Oz, could be but a few of
the reasons.
Neil Peart from Rush, commented years ago about touring Australia, and
stated that Rush album sales were so low here that it is not feasible for
the band and crew etc, to fly out. Steve Morse in 1994 at a Brisbane gig was
saying to the audience that he had to bring the band and their guitars,
effects etc, here at their own cost, as any promoters were not at all
interested in his band. They hired the other equipment and had a ball while
they were here. Hawkwind have just left the country after a brief tour and
it took them 30 years to get here and the crowd numbers at the gig I
attended were low. Yes commented on how they were really looking forward to
touring here this year for the first time in 27 years, and we hope they do
not let us down especially while Steve Howe is in the band.
Jethro Tull are the only 'progressive' band, that tour here occasionally.
(Thankyou Ian Anderson).
Maybe Tull are more popular here and Anderson does like Oz and appreciates
the fans input etc! (I am not saying that the past or present members of
King Crimson do not appreciate the fans etc, but unfortunately there may not
be enough fans in Australia for them to appreciate!)
IMHO these bands have a low key following in Australia and could be
classified as 'underground bands'.
I managed to ask Adrian Belew via question/answers submiited to ('his')
Rob's website a year or so ago, if there was any possibility of Crimson
touring Oz. His reply was that he had toured here before with Bowie and
liked it, and would like to return someday, but the distance/time to travel
was also mentioned. I know I should have also asked Robert Fripp!
We cannot afford to travel to Japan (often contemplating it), so it looks
like its back to the video/DVD for another reminder of what it could be
really like? I do know half a dozen or so Crimson fans, but hey, I only know
a few serious rock music afficionados. Cheers, Tony Greig.

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:04:04 +0100
From: Peter Clinch <p dot j dot clinch at dundee dot ac dot uk>
Subject: 30th Anniversary discs
Following Mark Stansbery in ET #650, another note of praise for the
packaging on the 30th Anniversary discs.  They represent the best CD
packaging I've yet come across, even without the scrapbook inserts.  A
great pity these weren't the standard for CDs, rather than jewel boxes.

I note that DGM is out: ordered a set of the latest 3 from Amazon (UK)
yesterday afternoon and they arrived this morning, so they're still Out
There.  Also in my local Virgin and HMV, but they're overcharging, as
usual.

I hope the upcoming new CD will be available in gatefold format...

Pete.
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:37:38 +0100
From: Russell Whitworth <russell at anchorag dot demon dot co dot uk>
Subject: Chris Botti - with Sting
I've not seen this mentioned in ET before, and it came as a very welcome
surprise to me last Thursday night to discover that the trumpet player
with Sting's current tour band is Chris Botti (better known in this
forum for B.L.U.E.)

He plays plenty of excellent solos in the show; well worth seeing for
this alone.  And Sting was on good form, too.

--
Russell Whitworth    http://www.anchorag.demon.co.uk/

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:29:55 EST
From: Bknt at aol dot com
Subject: Norbert Fragg: Remembrance of Things Crass
Hotel Palais du Plonk
Surly Pains
New Jersey

Having arrived in good cheer and bad plumbing for a series of interviews
with
the lurking pressa"delight pounces unexpectedly. Interviewer #1 has
canceled
due to a sudden outbreak of suppurating facial blemishes and Interviewer #2
has succumbed to toxic shock having chewed his skin for several hours during
a transcontinental flight between Pago Pago and the Isles of Langer's Hands
(where, exactly 12 years, three months and a possible Leap Year ago, the
very
first Guitar Wonk session was canceled when a gibbering collection of
plumescent Morris Dancers insisted on intrusively photographing the
malignant
gigster with his trousers at half mast, possibly due to the gigster's
questionable turn as the star of a series of pornographic cinema shorts
featuring a magnificently endowed pseudo-Polynesian steel guitarist
performing under the nom-de-picker of Hawaiian Lay).

Two tranquil hours spent sitting on the floor (the chairs will no longer
have
me), snacking upon shrink-wrapped mini-bar madeleins and practicing
dilegently on a pair of portable Hernandez what-hath-Fragg-frothed
cappuccino
machines, were interrupted by a portly, persisently nasal retentive visitor
from the local constabulary, with a mostly scripted list of questions
concerning the tragic disappearance of Interviewer #3, whose hand-held tape
recorder and collection of String Tension officially de-mastered CDs (which,
presumably, would have been offered with the insolent expectation
autographic
mutilation by the cramped claw of a grateful but not yet dead working
guitarist) embedded in the surface of a mammoth tub of rapidly hardening
concrete.

In the colourful slang of the local Americans, made vividly appealing in the
mouths of jolly Italianate duffers on the American television programme The
Contraltos, this hairy beefster from Copland was clearly out to get me. Was
I
(he asked) aware that with the world awash in the recorded squeals of pop
princesses, boy bands and sneering, artificially malignant "frappe music"
poseurs, I was ever much the lucky duck that the few lumpen,
no-longer-bright
wheezers willing to devote an hour or more in their otherwise busy workday
of
suckling at the treacly paps of multi-national media conglomerates, and
do-not-ask-what-is-it-but-make-their-feckless-visit to this Caligarlic
Cabinet of a hotel room, with its unspeakably scenic vistas of New Jersey
construction sites where the concrete encrusted corpse of Interviewer #3 is
no doubt playing a supporting role? After all (my madeleine munching
interogator continued) the collection of tortured twangs and polyrhythmic
rictus the latest String Tension disk, The CombuSTion of Spite, wasn't
likely
to raise a bubble of noxious gas to the Top of the Slops (though it has
already received prodigious pre-release radio play on Glory Anderson's
Difficult Music Hour), without a wee bit o' puissant publicity. Why, then,
was this very Fragg, who has previously stated a piquantly perverse passion
for gratuitously violent filmed afflati, arranging for his dwindling
dedicated cheerful, willing, curry flavoring publicity hacks to suffer
disfiguring ailments and die horribly, when the aformentioned gigster could
strut and fret his hour upon the stage, and then be gone, or possibly
assign
the task to the temporarily hairless Mr. Music Head, the very Mondrian
Bayou,
who can be charming, sincere and enlightening as to his inner motivations,
cosmic implications, zoopa-de-anglais, zippa-dee-days when he isn't calling
a
bunch of words a turd?

At this stage in the recedings, the dyspeptic performer, having arrived at
the stage in which the world is a stage, placed his trust in the nature of
the performance, replied, "This is may not be for you, but it is definitely
not for me." Then, improvising on a familiar spoon, gagged himself and thus
hurled upon the now fleeing unfortunate the deliquescing contents of his
discontent, careful in his aim that none of the post-digestive spray
approached the perimeter of his bed.

Mr. Page would have approved.

Bill Kent

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:43:05 +0100
From: Clive Backham <clive at capita dot nildram dot co dot uk>
Subject: Remastered Islands
I have a question for those who have bought the 30th-anniv version of
Islands:

Have the "scrunching/rustling" noise (most noticable during the choruses
on "Formetera Lady") and the high-pitched whistle during the cornet
(trumpet?) solo on "Islands" been eliminated? These faults are present
on every previous version, both vinyl and CD, I've ever heard. (Alas, I
never got to hear an original vinyl pressing on the Island label, which
I assume would have been free from these defects).

Clive Backham

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:35:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Edgar Kausel <ekausel at yahoo dot com>
Subject: Weather report
May be USA II will never be released, but if you want
to know how's the weather in Los Angeles and/or
London, you better check the News in the DGM site.
Every three days you'll find a nice weather report!
(unfortunatley, not the band)

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:43:15 PST
From: "Matt D" <dibes at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Live at Summit Studios for sale
I am selling my copy of Live at Summit Studios, Denver Number 9 of the
collectors club.
I am asking the Club price of 16.00 plus 2.00 for shipping anywhere in the
US.
First response gets it.

Matt Deibert

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:16:30 -0500
From: "Timothy W Cox" <timothy dot w dot cox at gte dot net>
Subject: prog radio
Greetings, I have a question for all who may be exceedingly informed. Are
there any purely prog rock radio stations which may be listened to over the
internet or perhaps one which plays Krim 24/7 ? Also any stations that play
Belew music? I have petitioned (in vain) to the local FM guardians of the
air waves for some decent music, here in Ohio, with little success. I recall
a past post from an unknown about a similar topic regarding crimson air play
and interestingly I recorded my first crim albums off the radio. Many moons
ago a radio station in Cleveland, 98.5 wncx, used to have a program on
Saturdays at midnight called "the Saturday night six pack". Every Saturday
at midnight they would play maggot brain and then play six albums in their
entirety. Much of my cassette collection came from that program due to my
low wage. One fateful evening I was listening and ITCOCK came on. I
immediately pressed record. A few weeks later they played ITWOP.
Unfortunately, they rarely play anything other than schizoid or in the court
any other time and I haven't even heard those in a while. To my knowledge
they discontinued the program. I now live in Columbus and can't even get a
decent rock station and although public radio expands my cultural diversity,
I need some blistering fret work, disturbing melodies, and angelic
soundscapes.
    Also, in regards to" I have a dream", I thought the song was pretty
cool, but the lyric about O.J. and Rodney king was a bit corny, but perhaps
I am being a "turd". Can't wait to here the new material !!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:34:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Edgar Kausel <ekausel at yahoo dot com>
Subject: 24 bits remasterings
Today I got the ITOP, Lizard & Islands 24 bits
remasterings CDs and I just want to thank all the
people who made them possible. They are very beautiful
(in the spirit of the 69-72 Crimso), the booklets are
perfect and the CDs sound great.
Can't wait for the  72-74 trilogy remasterings!

Edgar

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:53:51 -0500
From: "Brian O'Connell" <brian dot oconnell at point-of-view dot com>
Subject: I had a dream.
This tune is awesome. Further proof that Adrian is THE MAN. Also, for what
it's worth, I wouldn't ever worry about Tony Levin going "soft" or "cheesy".
Just my 2 cents.

-Brian O'Connell

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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:14:14 -0400
From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel at antonia dot webhost dot cl>
Subject: Check this out! New prog compilation album
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 11:19:42 PST
From: "alexis rondeau" <giantalex007 at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Big Eletric Chat
So what happened to the BEC anyway? Although i was never such a big Belew
fan i thouth this news group always seemed to be more fun than ET.  We
didn't agree with each other anymore than we do here but at least the
contributors were all respectfull of each other... something we should try
over here. The whole point is not to make everybody angry. There is
definetly some more space to talk about our mutual musical interest.

Alx

ps. Saying that PG has been doing crap for the last 15 years is as relevent
as saying that Phil Collins has been getting better and better for the last
15 years...

Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:00:47 -0400
From: "Dan B." <dandor at erols dot com>
Subject: easy trivia question & Lizard (new) remaster
Now that a large number of folks have acquired the new reissues of Wake,
Lizard & Islands, I have a question regarding the sound & mixing of
the new Lizard CD. Does it vary much in terms of the mix and overall
sound as referenced to the '89 remastered Definitive Edition? (I'm quite
happy with and have enjoyed for years this '89 earlier edition of
Lizard. A very nice balance of sound with excellent instrument
separation and clarity [IMHO].) I guess my (subjective?) question is how
can the Definitive Edition of Lizard be possibly improved upon? The
sound on the '89 version is not hissy and very crisp (on my average
mid-range system anyway). Was their lots of remixing with different
instrument tracks or changes to the earlier stereo master being made?
Anybody do an in-depth comparison of these different versions? (Is the
sound of the new one vastly different or improved upon?)
I'll end with an easy trivia question: What (mid) seventies album
features guest appearances by two chaps from the Islands-era K.C. along
with Charlie Watts & Eric Clapton? (I know it's an easy one.)
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