Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #594 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 594 Friday, 18 June 1999 Today's Topics: NEWS: New FFWD? NEWS: BELEW MERCHANDISE AND TOUR INFO NEWS: ET Archive move "Thrak" Re: LTiA2 squeak New live U.K. "Concert Classics" CD still available! After ProjeKCts live: Steve Hackett/KC Friends Live Re: Sailor's Tale and orgasms No-Man related releases Audi and the Bosstones? King Crimson tune in a movie Something a little different.... The Bright Wheeze Recent KC goodies ET Archive move re: Audi and frippertronics Dutch Band Thrak comments on great deciever played live Adrian Belew/DGM Collector's Club Bill Rieflin "Birth of a Giant" with Fripp and Gunn trade Deja Vroom DVD? GIG REVIEW: Adrian's solo gig...review ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.htm You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.5b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:31:58 -0500 From: "Damon C. Capehart" Subject: NEWS: New FFWD? Here's something I hadn't heard about... Quoted from http://www.theorb.com/orbulletins.html (on the official ORB website): "...And in FFWD>>-related news, Nico Baars reports that LX [Alex Patterson], Robert Fripp, and Thomas Fehlmann are slated to finish off their new album soon..." Have I just been out of touch? Damon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:39:35 -0500 From: "Rob Murphree" Subject: NEWS: BELEW MERCHANDISE AND TOUR INFO E.T.! Here is another tour update as well as info on getting Adrian's CD Sampler and merchandise. _____________________________ TOUR DATES AS OF JUNE 14, 1999 June 7 Mount Blue, Norwell, MA June 9 Metronome, Burlington, VT June 10 Middle East, Boston, MA June 11 New Market Caberet, Philadelphia, PA June 12 Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ (SOLD OUT) June 13 Birchmere, Arlington, VA June 15 Cat's Cradle, Chappel Hill, NC June 16 Be Here Now, Asheville, NC June 17 Variety Playhouse, Atlanta, GA June 19 Exit In, Nashville, TN June 21 7th House, Detroit/Pontiac, MI June 22 Double Door, Chicago, IL (WAS SOLD OUT - More Tickets via Ticketmaster) June 23 Shank Hall, Milwaukee, WI June 26 Wilbert's, Cleveland, OH June 27 20th Century Theatre, Cincinnati, OH -break- July 12 Slim's, San Francisco, CA July 14 Palookaville, Santa Cruz, CA July 15 Coach House, Santa Barbara, CA July 16 Coach House, San Juan Capistrano, CA July 17 The Roxy, Los Angeles, CA TBA The Belly Up, San Diego, CA _______________________________________________ ADRIAN BELEW MERCHANDISE AVAILABLE AT SHOWS _______________________________________________ "COMING ATTRACTIONS" CD Sampler - $20.00 "Coming Attractions" 12 songs from forthcoming solo releases. 1. Inner Man (from new solo electric) 2. Predator Feast (from new solo electric) 3. 117 Valley Drive (from new Bears record) 4. Inner Revolution (from This is a Pencil)* 5. Time Waits (from This is a Pencil)* 6. I Know What I Know And That Is All I Know and I Know It (from Dust) 7. People (from Dust - pre-KC demo) 8. No Such Guitar (from Dust) 9. Bird In A Box (from Dust) 10. House of Cards (from Dust) 11. The Man in the Moon (from Dust) 12. Animal Kingdom (from new Experimental Series) *- According to the liner notes, "This Is A Pencil - Live in Argentina" may NOT be released. CAN'T MAKE IT TO A LIVE BELEW SHOW? You can now order "Coming Attractions" via mail order / Adrian's management: COMING ATTRACTIONS - via mail order: $16.00 Outside the U.S. - $20.00 TO ORDER: Simply Call, Fax, Email or Write: Voice: (513) 871-1500 Fax: (513) 871-1510 Email: elaine at one dot net Visa/MC accepted Please make checks/money orders payable to: Hal Bernard Enterprises and send them to: Hal Bernard Enterprises P.O. Box 8385 Cincinnati, OH 45208 For those of you who WILL be making the show, you can buy your copy now and take it to the show for Adrian to sign. ======================================= MERCHANDISE AVAILABLE AT SHOWS ONLY: POSTER - Adrian Belew "Coming Attractions" (while supplies last) - $5.00. IRRESPONSIBLES (the Adrian produced band) "When Pigs Fly" CD - $15.00 Irresponsibles tee-shirt - $15.00 Irresponsibles' merchandise is only available at shows. For more information, visit the Belew tour page at www.murple.com/adrianbelew/tour.htm and/or visit the venue's website (where applicable). -Rob ______________________________________ Rob Murphree's Official Adrian Belew WWW Site ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:30:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Stok Subject: NEWS: ET Archive move Guys, as a few people have had problems getting to the archives through a non standard port I have moved them to: http://stok.jthome.com/et-archive/ Thanks, Mike -- mike at stok dot co dot uk | The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. http://www.stok.co.uk/~mike/ | PGP fingerprint FE 56 4D 7D 42 1A 4A 9C | 65 F3 3F 1D 27 22 B7 41 stok at colltech dot com | Collective Technologies (work) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:15:47 -0700 From: Brian Mafi Subject: "Thrak" Hello, In response to: "To that person who said Bruford said THRAK was to drummers hitting a drum at almost the same time I think you were refering to this quote: "I don't think there's anything at all precise about say, the Drummers of Burundi. It's the sound of lots of hands hitting drums at roughly the same time. Indeed, the definition of Thrak, as I read in one magazine, is the sound of one hundred and seventeen guitar players all hitting the same chord at approximately the same time." - Bill Bruford 1995 This is taken from the site www.swepett.pp.se/crimson/" Uh, could've been me. I said (in ET#591): "Wasn't there a comment from Mr. Fribble somewhere stating that "Thrak is the sound of (insert proper number here) guitars hitting the same chord at approximately the same time". Thought I saw that in an interview somewhere..." Did a little fact checking; I saw that same quote in the Bruford/Mastelotto interview in Modern Drummer (Nov. 1995) Said "Steve the FAQmaster": "A lot of the recent suggestions in ET about this were prefaced with phrases like "I remember reading somewhere that..." and "Didn't so-and-so say..", as opposed to citing a specific source. (Remember, citing sources is part of the research!). " Okay, I did my home work. Do I get a gold star? ;) Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:53:18 PDT From: stuart allison Subject: Re: LTiA2 squeak That squeak is the unmistakable sound of a violin bow being scraped slowly and distastefuly :) along a violin string close to the bridge of the instrument, accasionally letting off high harmonics and generally creating auora similar to that of a penguin %) The voices are layered so thickly at the end of LTiA1 that is doubtful that you or anyone else will decipher them in the foreseeable future. Is there a Possible Productions website? "Feelin' a little bit crazy" - Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:05:50 -0400 From: Rick Tolbert Subject: New live U.K. "Concert Classics" CD still available! Hello all, I got a tip from the e-Prog mailing list that Amazon.Com still had stock of the recently-issued-and-soon-pulled U.K. CD "Concert Classics". Since I had read at the Artists Shop web site that Eddy Jobson had stopped further pressings of the disc but had *not* pulled pressings that were already out there (self-appointed "artist protectors", take note of this fact!), I checked it out. Sure enough, there are apparently quite a few copies in stock at Amazon, though how many is anyone's guess. My shipment has already been confirmed and should be delivered tomorrow, and I know of at least 5 other guys on the e-Prog list who have already received their copy over the past 3 days, so this is not some bogus claim made in haste. By all accounts, this is an great disc, lacking somewhat in sound quality but making up for that in performance quality. Amazon's price is $12.57 plus shipping, which (for U.S. addresses) is another $2.95 via first class mail. Rick Tolbert Fayetteville, NC rick at tolbert dot net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:12:01 -0700 From: Paulo Henrique Leocadio Subject: After ProjeKCts live: Steve Hackett/KC Friends Live I spent the last month diving deeper and deeper on ProjeKCts 1 and 2 live albums (both Japan imports), with one or two stops only to listen to the Cirkus compilation. I suddenly resolved to order both LD and CD versions of Steve Hackett/Friends Live in Japan work (Japan imports as well), they both arrived on tuesday: AMAZING and HONEST, the minimum I can say. Personel: Steve Hackett guitars/harmonica/vocals John Wetton bass/acoustic guitar/vocals Ian McDonald flute/alto sax/guitars/keyboards/vocals Chester Thompson drums Julian Colbeck keyboards/vocals Track Listing: Wacther of the skies Rising the colossus Firth of fifth Battlelines Camino royale The Court of the Crimson King Horizons Walking away from rainbows Heat of the moment In that quiet Earth Vampyre with a healthy appetite I talk to the wind Shadow of the hierophant Los Endos Black light The Steppers I know what I like * (CD version has 3 bonus songs) HIGHLIGHTS: The band is great together and alive Wetton's singing is supperb Wetton's bass playing is very good Colbeck plays sampled Mellotron and Hammong Organ that sounds marvellous The all acoustic Heat fo the moment is what most of you always waited from Asia Firth of fifth has a new "crimsonesque" arangement that replaces the piano solo at the end of the flute solo (played wonderfully by Ian). THUMBS DOWN: Hackett insists on singing. He does backing vocals in all songs that apply and lead sings other 3. There should be an universal law against this lad with a mike. Such a shame. Anyway, this is a must have for any mid-seveties Crimson fan. Cheers > Paulo H. Leocadio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:33:35 EDT From: CURUGROTH at aol dot com Subject: Re: Sailor's Tale and orgasms ET Persons, In #593 Goodcracker Murphy (of stately Murphy Manor) wrote, facetiously I assume, that Sailor's Tale represents "a man's mind during sex," with the orgasm about thirty seconds from the end. First, there are, in fact, graphic representations of sex and orgasms on Islands, but they are in Ladies of the Road: the bari sax and guitar solos which both are followed by a variation on the same sordid, dissonant passage. Sailor's Tale--and I thought this was clear from the hints in Formentera Lady and the soprano voice--is a series of scenes from Homer's (no not Simpson) Odyssey. Here is the program: The first part is in dead calm seas; the oarsmen's ears are plugged with wax. Odysseus, who is tied to the mast, is represented by the sax. The soprano vocal parts, obviously, are the sirens, by whom our hero's "naked ears are tortured." Toward the end of this section the tempo doubles and the voices fade away; that is, the wind picks up and they sail out of earshot. The second part (after the transition on cymbal), if it were subtitled, would be Scylla and Charybdis. The guitar and sax duet (fast, 6/4) is the descent of Scylla's seven heads from the cliff and the devouring of some of Odysseus's crew; the sax is still Odysseus, the guitar, with those wicked bends, is Scylla. The next section (slow, 4/4) is a maelstrom sent by Helios; the chordal guitar "solo" is the ever more powerful wind which eventually makes the timbers creak (the single line guitar part entering right before the next tempo change). The explosion beginning the last section (fast, 6/4), at the entry of the harmonium and mellotrons, is the lightning bolt thrown by Helios which bursts the boat asunder. Finally, Odysseus is sucked into the whirlpool, Charybdis (the huge crescendo where Goodcracker has his orgasm), but at the last moment he grabs the branch of a tree overhanging from the shore. At the very end the chordal descent on guitar is Odysseus coming down from his adrenaline rush (and the tree) and collapsing on the beach. The low harmonium chords are reverberations of the eternal sea. Try listening to it with this program in mind and I think you will agree that it works. Best, Greg Karl NY NY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:30:21 +0100 From: peter dot chilvers at cyberlife dot co dot uk Subject: No-Man related releases Hidden Art, the label set up by Fripp collaborators "No-Man" (Tim Bowness and Porcupine Tree mainman Steven Wilson) have two new releases available from June 17th, Bass Communion and Tim Bowness/Samuel Smiles 'World Of Bright Futures'. Both albums are initially released as limited edition double CD's containing otherwise unavailable material. 'Bass Communion' (hi-art 4) is the second album by Steven Wilson's ambient project in the vein of Terry Riley and Paul Schutze. 'World Of Bright Futures' (hi-art 3) is a fusion of intimate singer-songwriter material with textural experiment and features a cover versions of Peter Hammill's classic 'Ophelia' and the King Crimson oddity 'Two Hands'. Both albums are priced at #12.99 and are available from Voiceprint mail order: Voiceprint Mail Order, PO Box 50, Houghton Le Spring, Tyne And Wear DH4 5YP England. UK freephone 0500 829 262; US freephone 1800 567 9185; German freephone 0130 818502); http://www.voiceprint.co.uk info at voiceprint dot co dot uk; Samples from the "Tim Bowness / Samuel Smiles album can be found at: http://www.collective.co.uk/samuelsmiles/ They will be headlining at the 12-bar club, Denmark St. London, on 17th July. Cheers, Peter Chilvers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:27:01 -0400 From: "Kempton, Mark" Subject: Audi and the Bosstones? Noticed all the comments about the Audi ad in the U.S. I've kept my eyes and ears out for it, but the only one I've seen appears to be backed by vocal a cappella music which I assumed was Bobby McFarrin. Either I've caught the wrong commercial or it's time for a trip to the doctor! Are there multiple ads? Should I make an appointment? Also, to the person who received the wrong recording on their Tony Geballe CD, it sounds like you got the Mighty Mighty Bosstones. Fun group, but not if you're looking for some 12-string... Mark mkempton at nls dot net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:06:33 +0200 From: tomekdp at friko5 dot onet dot pl Subject: King Crimson tune in a movie Hello to thr ET staff (if you can pass my "hello" to RF, please do); I must say I'm very impressed with your job - as a KCr fan I found the FAQ column especially interesting. My mail refers to the question of using KCr tunes in movies, TV ads. etc., so I'd like to report that the instrumental parts (AFAIR the beginning and the mid section - mixed together) of the "Indoor Games" song were used as as opening tune for a Hungarian film "The Elephant". As the number itself is a bit, well... twisted/weird/whatever, no wonder that it matched perfectly the plot. And the plot was: In a ZOO, one day before the visit of an important guest, somebody painted - with the yellow paint - "The director is stupid" on the elephant's side. Of course, the elephant couldn't be shown in this state to any visitor - set aside a VIP. The problem was that it was a special kind of paint, impossible to wash down. Luckily enough, they found an old man who could hepl them. Anyway, the film itself is a good fun - I do wonder if it had Robert's permission to use the tune. I doubt it, as in communist countries the copyright weren't (and still aren't) protected well. I'll appreciate if you can put this info somewhere in the FAQ column - and also ask Robert if he knows something about it. A few words from myself? I'm 28, live in Poznan, Poland. My favourite band is actually Deep Purple (I co-run Polish DP fanclub) but I love KCr too. There was a time, when I thought about writing a book about the Crimsons, it seems, however, that the market in Poland is not especially promising for such releases (well, on the other hand Jim Morrison's biog "No one here gets out alive" sold in about 30-40 thousand copies, so who knows?) I also look forward to seeing the band live at last - what about their European concerts in the future? Love Tomek Szmajter tomekdp at friko6 dot onet dot pl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:54:35 -0400 From: John Wylam Subject: Something a little different.... Hi, ET'ers -- I was sitting down to watch the Michigan 400 stock-car race on CBS. Normally the viewer's treated to an "open," complete with background music; today I heard something I didn't expect: "Kan-non Power." I thought it might be important to at least report this to ET. It's wonderful that such fine music gets such a wide audience (motorsports gets consistently high ratings on TV, CBS in particular); of course, considering the importance of copyright, I'm hoping everything was aboveboard concerning the network's use of this music. In any event, it certainly was surprising. Listening to (and much enjoying) *Cirkus,* and awaiting the Crimson to come. Many Good Wishes, Folks! John Wylam John Wylam Dept. of English 440 East Hall Bowling Green State University Bowling Green, OH 43403 Ph: (419) 372-9631 e-mail: wylam at bgnet dot bgsu dot edu, or John Wylam at aol dot com Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. -- Frank Zappa ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:11:08 -0700 From: Paulo Henrique Leocadio Subject: The Bright Wheeze Greetings, Last week I posted my thoughts on Steve Hackett/Firends' work in Japan after the Genesis Revisited album. After my posting, I started to wonder about the 70's King Crimson reforming, since lot's of the former members are back and others (like Greg Lake and John Wetton) seem not to have any official engagement with bands, for instance. Then I started to think of Hackett as a natural choice as RF replacement, since I would be able to do a big bet on Fripp never playing again with all those guys. Last friday I fanally received the 4th Club issue and, as a maniac, put it on the player and started reading the diary notes ... and there it was: The Bright Wheeze. Some of "my" thoughts (at least similar in some aspects) are there. Fripp says Hackett would be a perfect match for a 69KC comeback. Let's start to pretend on the situation: just imagine McDonald, Lake, Giles, Sinfield plus Hackett going on tour. Something possibly similar to the Hackett/Friends line-up. I am quiet sure that Hackett would want to play a few of Genesis' songs (and some of his for sure), so why not call Julian Colbeck to also play keyboards, so many of the possible song configurations would be set up. Actually, a proto version of this has already been around and playing (the Hackett/Friends stuff in Japan). I see that many of them are interested on developing some new things. McDonald's first solo ever has Hackett playing on it. Hackett's new solo has Ian there as well. So let's start the band. In my point of view, Hackett is much much better in a band line-up, receiving and offering contributions than on any solo work. Hacketts solo concerts I've seen (alive or on video) are not as powerful as Tokio Tapes. Isn't this something to make many of us happy? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:45:14 +1200 From: David MacLennan Subject: Recent KC goodies Well, it's been a good month or so for new KC-related discs for me! I'm still absorbing the P1 and P2 live albums that arrived a few weeks ago, but now I have even more to digest, for in the past ten days or so I've received Cirkus, KC Live at Cap D'Agde, B.L.U.E. (finally!), and Sometimes God Smiles (ditto). Not to mention CD-R boots of P3 and P4 live.... Cirkus is rather fun. OK, most of the material is not new to long-time Crimheads, but it's interesting to have it all assembled like this . The real treats are the live Neurotica, and Prism. There's an awful lot of stuff from the Mexico 1996 gig -- if this is still intended as a full release, then we're going to be paying for this material twice, which I'm less than enthused about. Hey ho. As you probably know Cirkus comes in a nice strong cardboard sleeve with cover art by PJ Crook. I would like to see DGM do a calendar of the full versions of the paintings used for the KC and P1 sleeves -- I really like her work. It has a dream-like quality to it, especially that for Epitaph and Absent Lovers. Apparently Cirkus is to be released here in New Zealand -- the first KC album to get a release here since THRAK (though a few others have trickled through on import). KC Live at Cap D'Agde is one tasty little sucker! The best sound quality of any Club relesase so far. Good performances too, and it's nice to have a live Sheltering Sky at last. A definite winner, as Fripp himself hinted in a diary entry some time back. Roll on Broadway 1995 -- can't wait! I can see why SGS is Fripp's favourite DGM release. It's a wonderfully-assembled compilation, and it already has me wanting several of the albums sampled therein, notably Mr McFall's Chamber, who sound wonderfully eclectic; the Bill Nelson albums (haven't really heard much Bill Nelson since the early 80s); and the Tony Geballe disc. But as far as forthcoming DGM releases go, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want -- the ProjeKcts Box!! When IS that going to appear? By the time it does I'll have just about worn out the Japanese P1 and P2 discs that I got recently, not to mention the P3 and P4 boots. I don't normally bother with boots, but I was offered CD-Rs of P3 and P4 live as a trade, which I readily accepted purely as a stop-gap until the ProjeKcts Box appeared. And I can say without hesitaiton that P3 and P4 are every bit as good as P1 and P2! Fripp's right about Mastelotto's drumming skills -- the man's a percussive demon! Some of the material is familiar from P2, so I wouldn't be surprised if pieces like Heavy ConstruKction get reworked into KC pieces proper. The more I listen to the ProjeKcts discs the more convinced I am that the next proper KC incarnation may well prove to be the best yet, eclipsing even the fabulous 73-74 lineup. They're pushing the outside of the envelope again, as is the tradition with KC. And finally -- great news that Mojo mag is doing a big (6000 word) feature on KC marking the 30th anniversary! I love Mojo, but so far it has studiously ignored prog rock (apart from the seemingly-annual Pink Floyd specials...), so its about time this changed. Who knows, maybe one day we'll get that detailed Gentle Giant or Peter Hammill retrospective out of them! Cheers, David Maclennan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:09:26 -0400 From: Steve Painter Subject: re: Audi and frippertronics Sorry, I don't have an answer. I just wanted to acknowledge that if that isn't Fripp doing the aurals, then it's a definite Frippophile. The simple, yet elegant and soaring "melody" (three notes- the first and third being the same, perhaps an octave or two apart) and the signature backdrop sonic swells are so Frippian it is uncanny. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:03:26 +0200 From: Martin van Wijk Subject: Dutch Band Thrak Hi all, I'd liketo invite you to visit http:\\www.thrak.net , homepage of Dutch band Thrak. Thrak at the moment is a KC cover band , but will evolve to a band with an own identity ( hopefully ;-) in the near future, as they are writing some own material now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: pellegrini dot 1 at osu dot edu (Catherine Pellegrini) Subject: comments on great deciever played live I'm just curious why the live version of the song Great Deciever doesn't sound good at all on the box set Great Deciever, but the studio sounds great. John Wetton lacks enthusiasm in the live recording but has it in the studio. And why in the live recording is the mellotron omitted. It kind of sounds like in the studio recording that the mellotron took care of some kind of little big band orchestra, but they left it out in the live recording and why didn't crimson hire someone to fill in with the live recording the mellotron. That is what gave it the life it has. What a flop the live recording of this song is. It has no enthusiasm, intensitiy, or pinache, a little redundant i think. But the studio recording has it all. Crimson should have foreseen this problem and remedied it properly. It's the only song played live by crimson that sounds bad live, and all the other songs sounds better than their studio version. And why is there only one live recording of the song the Great deciever and all these other songs that come out from the '72-'74 period are repetitive and redundant and keep on being played. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:32:39 PDT From: Michael Irish Subject: Adrian Belew/DGM Collector's Club Thanks to Toby for posting Adrian Belew's tour dates. I bought a ticket for Adrian's Land of a 1000 Guitars concert at Pontiac, six days from now, at the same fine beerhall which hosted the excellent Bruford/Levin Upper Extremities concert in December; indeed, this will be the first rock pop & soul concert since BLUE, as I spend most of my concert time attending opera and symphonic music in Detroit, also known as the cultural center of Midwest America. The California Guitar Trio will also play at the 7th House and at Border's Books. Impressions of the Collector's Club releases: I haven't written on ET for quite the while, but have read other people's comments here with interest. The Cap D'Agde concert is not only (to my mind) the finest CC release, but one of the finest recordings to come out this year, in a league with the Sony release of Gygory Ligeti's "Le Grand Macabre. I concur with one of the reviews here where the Jacksonville and Beat Club releases demonstrated how Robert Fripp had revitalized a Crimson seemingly out of breath after Islands with the addition of Bruford, Wetton, Cross and Muir. The difference here is demonstrated on the album cover to the Jacksonville set, where Robert and the rest of the band are looking at each other from opposite sides of the stage. What we have with the Beat Club are a group of superlative musicians playing together, while the impression gathered from Jacksonville is that of musicians playing at each other. That said, I liked the Jacksonville set more than some of the reviews here. The band is playing a set list of great extended early and middle Crimson compositions, Robert plays a blistering solo during Schizoid Man, and Mel Collins forays into John Coltrane land are a joy. Ian Wallace's drum solo during Sailor's Tale was indicative of a time of extended drum solos, that reached its apotheosis with Billy Cobham's great bash on Mahavishnu's "One Word." As I have had no encounter with Crimson bootlegs, the Club releases have been a blessing, rays of light in a year that had been obscured by clouds. I'm very much looking forward to renewing my membership with DGM when the documents arrive. Michael www.oeonline.com/~eirish ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:45:16 -0800 From: Phil Toudic (Phillipe Toudic) Subject: Bill Rieflin "Birth of a Giant" with Fripp and Gunn Nobody asked me, but some of you may be interested to know that Bill Rieflin (drummer/guitarist who's appeared or recorded with Ministry, KMFDM, 10 Seconds, LCG, etc.) has a new CD out called "Birth of a Giant," to which Fripp and Gunn are said to make major contributions. The CD is on First World and can be ordered online at www.firstworldmusic.com. The price is $13.99 (US) plus shipping. I sent in an order the other day but haven't received it yet so can't comment on the music. First World will also be releasing Rieflin's "Repercussions of Angelic Behavior," also featuring Fripp and Gunn, in the fall. "Repercussions" is described as containing improvised pieces done during the "BOAG" sessions. Fripp has mentioned it in his Diary several times. You may have seen this same info in the DGM Guestbook, but I'm trying to get it to all who might be interested. And thanks to Blaime D. Arnold, who originally posted to the Guestbook, for the tip. Cheers all - Phil T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:41:50 PDT From: Vasily Garkusha Subject: trade Hi! Dear ETers, I am willing to part with the following CDs: Robert Fripp and the League of Crafty Guitarists - Live! Van der Graaf Generator - World Record - Pawn Hearts - H to He Mahavishnu Orchestra - Visions of the Emerald Beyond - Birds of Fire - Apocalypse B.B. King - Lonely Nights - early stuff live Johnny Winter - Livin' The Blues - early stuff live Beach Boys - Greatest Hits Live John Lee Hooker - Boom Boom I'll be glad if some of you will be intrested in any of these. I got more in my vaults :-) Vasily ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:49:31 -0700 From: Rod Le Cloux Subject: Deja Vroom DVD? Hi, Does anyone know why CD Now has two different listings for the DVD of Deja Vroom? One is cheaper by about $4 and is listed from 1998. Was it re-released in 1999 with different songs? Thanks, Rod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:47:51 -0400 From: Brian Preston Subject: GIG REVIEW: Adrian's solo gig...review Hi ET folks... Just saw Mr. Belew at the Cat's Cradle in Chapel Hill Tuesday night... he did his solo gig ...I dont remember seeing any reviews here (and please excuse me if this has been done already), so here goes... It was very fun and entertaining... wearing a red base ball cap (after the opening band which was a beatles-esque pop band) Adrian had 4 guitars placed onthe stage: a dobro and a red acoustic on stands and 2 strats... he came out and just began to wail on the strat, improv-ing, moved into some wicked blues licks and stopped looked out smiling at the jazzed, near-packed audience and said, "Oh, I almost forgot you were there!" laughed and ripped back into it... the whole show was a series of movements from his ballads on acoustic with very nice smooth vocals to wild acrobatic electric and his classic animal noises.. He stopped to take questions from the intimate gathering of about 150 folks at 3 points in the show and then spent at least an hour afterwards signing autographs and chatting... His sound engineer was an integgral part of his sound as he used drum tracks on all the stuff from his new "Coming Attractions" CD. He played a bunck of Crimson songs of his: ToaPP, Discipline (snippet), Neal and Jack and Me, uh uh, he was asked to play Matte Kudasai and he replied... "Hmmm, thats a tough one..remember I just played seagulls on that song,the other guitarist did the nice chords..." and then he proceeded to play and sing a verse or two, playing Fripp's parts, but not flawlessly (he slurred afew and faked a few chords for sure!) He debuted what he calls "Beloops" where he sets up a rhythm loop on guitar and then goes off wild to it... He did a song called "TwoBelews" that his son had written the drum track for on a drum machine and that was one of the coolest songs of the night. I picked up Coming Attractions and its OK... (of course no KC) He also gave the scoop on the new KC recording sessions: Quartet: Fripp, AB, PM and TG. He said "Well Bill might come in at some point" and "I will really miss Tony, he makes a great cup of coffee"! They will begin writing and rehearsals in Nashville this fall and start recording by Winter he says. He expects they will tour here (!!!!) next Spring...this will be the first time that Crimson has ever come to North Carolina that I know of. hope you enjoyed this... It would be an entertaining show to see. recommended. I was also able to give Adrian a copy of Smokin'Granny's first release (from 1997). Our new Cd will be out in July. web site: davido42.home.mindspring.com/smokingranny bye for now... Brian Preston MMP SG- basses/arrangement/producer 1*4*9 ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #594 ********************************