Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #576 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 576 Monday, 8 March 1999 Today's Topics: GIG BIZ: The Dark Aether Project/Markus Reuter of Europa String CENTIPEDE live appearances Earthbound Webpage, still cooking Addendum to My Review of A.B. at Bibelot's Beatles quote in ThrakAttak Re: Allusion or plagiarism? Guitar Craft Book the compilation isn't enough Clammer; Belew performance Technical Info of DVD, CD and More Availability Of DJVROOM!!! KCrimson/Floyd connection A question from a french King Crimson lover Soundscapes > early UK> Re: Elephant Talk #575 RE: Mars, The God of War P6? Levin on Seagal album Inquiry for information Deja VROOM and beyond? April Wine!! Re: Live or Collectors' Club? P1 - Live at the Jazz Cafe May 8, 1973 Performance What is King Crimson? Lyric submittal. CGT Rare Bears Promo 7" single up for auction on ebay Propagande playlist 03-06-99 GIG REVIEW: Adrian Belew Radio Interview and Release Party GIG REVIEW: Vernon Reid/Trey Gunn GIG REVIEW: Adrian rocks the Mercury Lounge 2/26/99 ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.htm You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.5b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:11:41 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin Subject: GIG BIZ: The Dark Aether Project/Markus Reuter of Europa String At 9pm on Saturday, March 13th, at Phantasmagoria located at 11319 Elkin St. in Wheaton MD (5 minutes from the Washington DC beltway) The Dark Aether Project will perform in support of their second CD _Feed The Silence_ with special guests Warr Guitarist Markus Reuter of the Europa String Choir (who appears on the CD) and space-jam improv greats Quarkspace. Accompanying the music will be the spectacular visual work of the Ohio-based Solar Fire Lightshow and their multi-projection liquid light & film systems with multi-colored strobes, black lights, smoke, beams and other amazing visual effects which have made them one of the premier US lightshow outfits and the choice of visiting foreign space rock forefathers like Hawkwind and Gong. Showtime is 9pm and admission price is $10 for this all ages show. The Dark Aether Project is: Adam Levin: Warr 8 String Touch Guitar/Keyboards/Loops Yaman Aksu: Guitar/Hammond Organ Brian Griffin: Drums/Percussion Ray Weston: Vocals For directions and more info, visit http://www.DarkAether.Net/ * ----------------------------------------------------------------- Phantasmagoria is an artist and music fan-friendly venue, so please come out and show your support. In addition to the above mentioned show, here's a couple of other upcoming Phantasmagoria shows which may interest fans of music which pushes beyond the boundaries of the ordinary: 3/20 Richard Pinhas (of the classic French band Heldon) 5/26 Magma (France)/Porcupine Tree (England) - to be confirmed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:35:01 +1100 (EST) From: tps at merlin dot com dot au (The Performance Space) Subject: CENTIPEDE live appearances >Do you really mean Mr. Fribble played live with CENTIPEDE ? yes >Could you please write us some more about that event, kind of review >describing us how was the concert from beginning to end ? this seems many moons ago...but some things i remember......blinding set by patto as support.......then keith and julie up the front...beautiful piano and vocals....and the centepede "orchestra" only just fitting on the stage behind them....fripp in afro haircut mode...his but one of a number of guitar solos through the nite...i remember that this was the best music around at the time....so much more sophisticated than things like elp and yes other such pomp crap that was becoming "commercial" then....great sense of community in the audience and the realization that what we were seeing and listening to was probably a one off, and therefore very special.....the rainbow was a great venue i think...some of my best concerts in the seventies and eighties were there...including kc after muir had left....just before the starless lp release....a great rendition of fracture..and lt prt 2.... =========================================================================== Zane Trow, Artistic Director. The Performance Space - Australian Centre for Research and Development of the Contemporary Performative Arts. PO Box 419, Strawberry Hills 2012, tel (612) 9698 7235, fax (612) 96991503 http://www.culture.com.au/scan/tps =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:32:58 -0400 From: George Selinsky Subject: Earthbound Webpage, still cooking Hello crimheads, I am STILL trying to find a minute to get my Earthbound website on the web, I am going to get back to it this week after several months of absence from leasure activities (a film carreer leaves very little time for much else). I had problems with RealAudio and getting it to work properly, but the MP3 section will probably be up earlier (remember, this is clips from the album, not the whole enchilada, for which I have permission from the Frippster). It's the first time I've been to ET in so long, good thing to hear that Robert Fripp n' co are still alive! - George. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:39:42 -0500 From: Mark Chapman Subject: Addendum to My Review of A.B. at Bibelot's Crimmers: In the last ET, I reviewed Adrian's visit to Bibelot's bookstore in Baltimore. I just wanted to apologize for assuming too much and identifying his companion as "his lady." I really have no idea who she was/is (might have been his chief marketing weasel, for all I know, or perhaps someone from NPR). ~Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:39:46 -0500 From: Bert Rubini Subject: Beatles quote in ThrakAttak > Now for another Beatles reference--on some shows of the > THRAK tour, Adrian would perform a solo-guitar-synth (piano > sound) setting of "Free As a Bird". Anyone else spot the > chord progression from the intro to that song deep within > THRaKaTTaK? (I believe it's track 5, but don't have the CD > here with me). Given Fripp's beliefs regarding copyright > ethic, how would he justify its inclusion? > > Khh I'm certainly no expert on copyright law, but I don't think anyone would consider this a violation of copyright, anymore than if I wrote a book and put in a quote from a famous author in the text. If the chord progression to "Free as a Bird" appears in ThrakAttak, it surely must be considered a 'quote' at most. You'd have a hard time convincing me that anything on Thrakattak is a "new version" or a "remake" of a Beatles song! Me (to my wife): Hey, honey, let's listen to this new King Crimson CD, Thrak attak. My Wife: OK. (music plays for 10 minutes) Me: What do you think? My wife: Sounds like the Beatles. bert r. -- My homepage - now updated with even more boring photos and mindless tedium!: http://www.hcc.cc.fl.us/services/faculty/bertrubini/home.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:34 -0600 From: kholmhud at nwu dot edu (Kevin Holm-Hudson) Subject: Re: Allusion or plagiarism? Roozeboom at aol dot com wrote: >"Anyone else spot the chord progression from the intro to >that song ["Free as a Bird"] deep within THRaKaTTaK? All very well and good, but the copyright owner may not see it that way. For example, The Orb may have been "paying tribute" to Steve Reich for their sampling of Reich's "Electric Counterpoint" in the studio version of "Little Fluffy Clouds," but the fact that in performance they play the pattern live and that they assigned 50% of the song's copyright to "unknown" speaks of covering their tracks; perhaps Reich (or his publishers) would feel differently? And then there's John Oswald, whose _Plunderphonic_ CD was suppressed and destroyed by court order after Michael Jackson's attorneys sued objecting to the musique-concrete style treatment of Jackson's "Bad" in a song called "DAB". I am not accusing KC of plagiaristic inclusion and subversive copycatting for personal gain by any means. Still, the inclusion of this "live sample" of "Free as a Bird" is problematic. Knowing what we know of how Yoko Ono oversees the ownership of Lennon's work, how do you think she would react to hearing part of "Free as a Bird" within a recorded performance for which Fripp et al. earn royalties, however paltry? I don't think I'm failing to tell the difference here--I think the situation is more complex than some of us realize. Khh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:17:12 -0800 From: George Pollow Subject: Guitar Craft Book Hey. Somebody thought it would be nice and I think it would be nice if one of these guys who have takin "Guitar Craft" put out a guitar book on it. Chords, SCALE FINGERINGS (!!!), arpeggios and all that in New Standard Tuning. Or Robert Fripp himself if he has time for it. Those scales get mind boggling! And its a very "musical" tuning alot of people may like. Id be interested in comparing scale fingerings by e-mail with anyone who tunes that way - Ive found 5 different ways to do it and Id like to see how other people do it too. Andy Pollow Pollow at aa dot net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:32:46 -0800 From: Eb Subject: the compilation isn't enough >From: Mark Chapman > >He has >requested many times that his early albums such as Twang Bar >King be rereleased, but these requests have apparently >fallen on deaf ears. That's a real shame...I still think that's his best solo album. And of course, Lone Rhino and Desire Caught by the Tail are quite good too, if slightly half-baked. Eb, still stuck with vinyl copies of all three (though Lone Rhino is autographed :)) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:20:02 -0800 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: Clammer; Belew performance >Sorry - "clammer"? He was the clammer, and we were the clammees. >There's no way I'm going to remember and be able to repeat >everything he talked about in the 45 or so minutes that he >talked. Sorry but the brain cells don't work that well >anymore. Thanks Mark, the stuff you *did* remember was fascinating. - S. scottst at ohsu dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:47:20 -0500 From: "J. Macon Patton" Subject: Technical Info of DVD, CD and More Fellow Crimdividuals and the rest, First time here.I'm awed by the interesting input from all. I could not get into the ET Web site a few mins ago, probably AT&T (3rd)Worldnet, to which I suscribe. If this is worthless to ET, I'm sure it will be recycled.

http://www.cdpage.com/Compact_Disc_Books/yellowbooki.html This is an interesting site for the technical specs on DVD. Yellowbook/Redbook specs on CD/DVD and easily be found here as well. DVD's are, as I read last week over an AnchorSteam brew, in the infintile stage. I own a repair shop and have worked on thousands of CD players and but have worked on 2 DVDs (nightmare so far), so I am not an authority on DVD. Most DVD players do have setup menus - From what I hear, it would be nice if standards became DIN or ISO900?. It would be nice if DVD players all defaulted to say DTS,AC-3,Dolby Pro-Logic,Stereo (all in that order) or something like that...you choose. If you have your player set-up to Default to DTS, because your system is set up for it, you still may have to manually switch to say Dolby Pro-Logic...I wish I had the Deja Vrooom to know it's capacities. When I can get my copy, perhaps, I'll be able to give better feedback on that particular DVD, especially when it comes to the computer DVD drives. Check out the above site. Regards - Macon Patton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:58:03 -0500 From: leslabb at ptd dot net Subject: Availability Of DJVROOM!!! IN ET575 Chris Berg Wrote: > Hey Folks, I just wanted to drop in my two cents about DEJA VROOOM. It > was tough to find. I never did find it on the shelves at any store > around here. I had to go to Amazon.com Chris, and others: Why look anywhere else than www.discipline.co.uk/dgm. Order from the source direct. I have ordered from DGM direct several times dating back to 1996, and have not a bad word to say about their service. If do order online, then at least order from DGM!! P.S. I am in no way personally affiliated with DGM, or anyone connected to DGM. Also I do not receive any compensation for the above testimonial, other than to hope for DGM's continued existence. Les B. Labbauf http://home.ptd.net/~leslabb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:14:17 PST From: "Abhi Bungale" Subject: KCrimson/Floyd connection hiya folks, as far as i know, the only connections between KCrimson and Floyd are that Tony Levin has played on Floyd's first post-Waters album (A Momentary Lapse of Reason - 1987) and Mel Collins has played sax on both of Roger Waters' solo tours (The Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking, 1984; Radio KAOS, 1987). Hope this info helps. sonically, Abhi "Music appears despite the music industry, not because of it." - Robert Fripp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 02:24:29 PST From: "Laurent Laplace" Subject: A question from a french King Crimson lover Hi everybody! I'm a 25 years old french student who fell in love with King Crimson music when I was a child 'cause my brother was listening this music very often I think that this is the first music I listened to when my mother brought me back from the hospital where I was born. Since many years have passed and I have managed to gather about everything the group performed, even the solo albums of Fripp which are simply wonderfull. King Crimson music is as important to me as the air I breath. Nonetheless Three albuums are still missing in my collection -USA -Earthbound -A guide to young KC users These albums are unfoundable in France maybe I could order them on the net but I don't trust this system and on top of that as a student I haven't got yet my own credit card. Is there another way to buy these albums if someone knows please answer me. C'EST DANS LES ALPES QUE LE CHOCOLAT MILKA ... Laplace Laurent Jf Byers (:-]) Leader of the lone gunmen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 18:45:14 +0000 From: Lordmuck56 at att dot net Subject: Soundscapes > early UK> Greetings! In ET #575, James D. posted relative to the first UK album and the many influences it contained. I would agree completely and add that UK had major potential to go much further than it did. It was sad to learn that "Night after Night" was the end of the line. When one considers the creative forces at work in UK, especially the contrast of Allan Holdsworth to R.F. as compared to the other group members, the ultimate demise of UK was inevitable...strong talents and energies moving in different directions. As for Soundscapes (also mentioned in ET #575) I don't care what label or classification is applied to it...I absolutely love the concept and the sound. It is unique and creatively forceful without the baggage that sometimes goes with efforts of this type. For myself, Soundscapes represents R.F. expanding his horizons and opening new possibilities for other seemingly quaint or unique forms of creative expression. Then again, R.F. is a brilliant man and I have come to expect him to be a pioneer as well as musician supreme. Regards, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:52:16 +0100 From: Anathema Ravenhurst Subject: Re: Elephant Talk #575 > Dave Lumenta wrote > Subject: The Peter Gabriel III - Discipline Connection > > 1. Fripp > > 2. Levin > > 3. Hi-hats censored > > Wanna know how Phil Collins would sound if he ever opted > joining KC instead of 'Face Value' ? PG3: Intruder, No Self > Control, And Through The Wire... On the topic of even Phil Collins producing decent music, try any of Brand X's albums on which he plays drums, notably the excellent 'Moroccan Roll'. -- **************************************************************** * Do What Thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law. * * Love is the Law, Love under Will. * * - Fra. P. * * ICQ # 22316970 PGP key available upon email request. * **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 99 13:15:31 EST From: James Dusewicz Subject: RE: Mars, The God of War With the appearence of this gem on Emerson, Lake and Powell, and its previous appearence on the 4CD Epitaph box set, I was wondering why RF decided to iclude those performaces of this classic from Holsts' The Planets. I know that KC's early performances preceeded ELP's (1986) release. But at the time I thought it was strange that ELP would include it on their album. jim campaigner at usa dot net James Dusewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 07:18:47 -0500 From: TJ Mathews Subject: P6? I have a hypothesis. The new crim - let it be ProjeKCt 6 - is going to take every ounce of Robert and DGM to conjure. If you consider all the different sounds that the four Ps made and are soon about to make in P3 I think you have an amazing potential. P6 can be any of those, all of those, and certainly more. So to let the monster loose one must clear the decks first. MHO is YES. But a hypothesis is tentatively inferred and requires further experimentation. tj dumela at tidalwave dot net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:05:56 -0500 From: "Laura" Subject: Levin on Seagal album Yes, *that* Levin and *that* Seagal. >>. . . Steven Seagal, action hero and one of the film industry's highest grossing box office stars, has taken time from his busy film schedule to launch his musical career and record his debut album . . . Mr. Seagal, an accomplished blues guitarist and singer, who wrote all songs on the album, has been in the studio the past two months recording with a premier host of musicians including . . . Tony Levin . . . << See http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990302/ca_outwest_1.html for the rest of the story. --Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:02:35 EST From: Mothchen at aol dot com Subject: Inquiry for information To whom may I inquire on the technical aspects of Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew's guitar setup? (equipment, wirings, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:30:37 -0800 From: "KJXP" Subject: Deja VROOM and beyond? Having read the few posts concerning Deja VROOOM (DVROOOM), I would like to contribute my thoughts about it and also ask a question. DVROOOM was my first and is still my only DVD video, so I've not a great deal to compare it to. However, I contend that anyone who appreciates KC would most certainly enjoy DVROOOM, even if that person viewed it solely as a video and did not go a-clicking in the menus. The filming was very well done, and the sound is great even coming from my Premier computer speakers, imho. (I know someone out there is rolling his or her eyes at that, but I mean it.) What more does an eye-ear combo ask for in a concert video? Admittedly, I was somewhat thrilled by simply utilizing a DVD player in the first place, but after the second and third viewing I ignored the technology and just enjoyed the show... which is to say that I found the show most enjoyable. I ought to mention also that DVROOOM is the only KC thing I own (not including the wonderful CD that came along with it). Yes: I am a KC newbie (at 32), a prog rock newbie (goodness), and an ET newbie as well (yikes!). I had always thought KC was "a very good band" (based on the few songs I'd heard), but I did not know the half of it until I really got a chance to listen to and view them. I am wondering now just what I ought to get next. I lean toward the instrumental Fripp, but I love everything on DVROOOM and the accompanying CD. Do I have any criticisms? Yes, but they are minor and not the fault of KC. On a computer monitor, there is some loss of resolution that can be noticed whenever we get a close up of drumsticks in motion, and in a couple other places. A friend of mine has told me that this is because a computer monitor has a higher resolution than a TV screen. (That criticism just sounds picky, though.) I was a bit disappointed that there were not better instructions on how to navigate through the menus. I understand that there are quite a few other DVD systems out there with their own interfaces, so it was probably unavoidable that the instructions would be so watered down. Oh well. Now, for my question: How do I get to the "exciting hidden features"? Does a little cartoon Fripp pop up and say "Click my guitar!" or must I type some occult KC reference during "Elephant Talk"? This 'hidden feature' feature is obsessing me. As I am presently immersed in playing Baldur's Gate, perhaps I shall be fortunate enough to stumble into the Court of the Crimson King -- where all the answers will be found at last. Thanks in advance for any responses. I shall now enter *Lurk Mode*, where I may happily spend the rest of my days. Take care, and be well. Sing While You May, '.'/\/\]<.'. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:21:50 EST From: Bolinhed at aol dot com Subject: April Wine!! Just when ya thought you'd heard it all....80's MTV sorta-metall-ish many- guitar-band April Wine ("Sign of the Gypsy Queen," "Just Between Me and You," and of course "I Like To Rock") just had a KING BISCUIT PRESENTS CD of a 1982 show of theirs come out - and they play 21st Century Schizoid man on it. Jimmy says ouch. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:51:51 -0800 From: Phillipe Toudic Subject: Re: Live or Collectors' Club? Dear ET: I have a couple of comments on postings on the subject of whether it would be better to have another Collectors' Club (or other live release), as opposed to an actual live performance by the full double trio. Give me a live performance, please! First of all, that's where the musical "event" happens, where performer and audience can be swept up into something larger than themselves. If magic is going to happen, it will only happen at the performance; a tape won't convey it. Each performance means taking a risk, of course. The magic might not happen. A drunk might step on your shoes or scream at the top of his lungs throughout the whole show. The limitations of the traditional "rock concert" have been noted at length, not least by Mr. Fripp himself. Still, I'll take the risk. Crimson shows, in my experience, attact a smaller number of obnoxious people than rock shows generally, and the other commercial distractions of this formerly "communal" event are less in evidence. Second point: the magic happens pretty regularly at Crimson shows, at least in my experience. One poster complained he hadn't seen a memorable Crimson performance, or words to that effect. All I can say is, if that's true (though I find it hard to believe), you've missed the best part of the band. From '73 to '96 the live sets I've attended (13 in all, if I'm counting correctly) have been uniformly powerful, and some have been absolutely overwhelming. If that hasn't come through when you've seen the band, my regrets. Final point: the live sound has always been good to excellent, although in some halls you admittedly have to pick your spot. The band is and always has been loud, but (apart from the acoustics of the hall) distortion hasn't been a problem. And, Fripp is much pickier than most about where he'll play. Crimson is a live band and always has been. If you really want to hear what it has to offer, you have to take your chances in public. But there's a good possibility you'll be rewarded with magic if you do. - Phil T. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:28:49 -0500 From: Scott Greenbaum Subject: P1 - Live at the Jazz Cafe I don't believe I've seen a single post about this release. I received my Japanese Import of it a few days ago from CDnow.com and I like it. I like P2 Space Groove more right now, but this is the first I've heard of P1. Any comments on this release? Has anyone else picked it up? Take care, Scott in Florida, USA ************************ Scott Greenbaum IT-HR Event Coordinator http://www.it-hr.com (800) 351-1138 ext. 104 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:09:09 -0800 From: bill dot jones at autodesk dot com Subject: May 8, 1973 Performance Howdy, y'all. I just read the below in Echoes, the Pink Floyd mailing list, and wanted to bring it to your attention. My main point of interest is the bit regarding the Krimson show on 5/8/73. Does anyone know whether a recording of this particular show exists? I'm chiefly interested in Bruford's extended drum solo, of course. Not exactly a typical offering, I imagine. Depending on the quality of the performance, I'd have to say that it could possibly be a desirable candidate for release through the Collectors' Club. Can anyone at DGM comment on the likelihood of it being offered up at any point in the foreseeable future? Thanks, Bill >>>it seems quite unlikely that Rick Wright used a mellotron or a moog to >>> record and, especially, to perform on stage with the Floyd. >> As far as touring is concerned The Moody Blues were one of the first bands >> to try touring with a mellotron, and tales are legion about the problems >> they had. The mellotron was a notoriously delicate instrument and best >> suited to the studio environment. >I can attest to this. Mellotrons were terribly finicky instruments. A >friend of mine had one and they would often go out of tune or even not work >altogether. It was very risky to use them in a concert situation. I >remember seeing King Crimson live at the Masonic Auditorium in Detroit on >May 8, 1973. They attempted to use a mellotron for the show. I say >"attempted" because the show was delayed for at least half an hour while >they tried to get the mellotron to work. They eventually gave up on it and >we were treated to a rare extended Bruford drum solo during the set >instead. One of many memorable quotes from Robert Fripp of King Crimson is: "Tuning a mellotron doesn't" hehehe ttyl, - - Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:59:56 -0500 From: "RAYMOND J RAUPERS JR." Subject: What is King Crimson? Lyric submittal. Received zero response to inquiry for lyric interaction. Untamed souls and the hands of Christ, old rebels walk softly. Sometimes a Christ is all there is...Trust nothing. God bless Thoreau. Peace y'all. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:27:54 PST From: "Nelson Black" Subject: CGT I recently saw the California Guitar Trio @ Borders in Jacksonville. The concert was wonderful and the crowd of 200 people ecstatic! I snapped a dozen or so pictures of Messrs. Richards, Moriya and Lams in action which my son scanned for me. I've sent the best seven of them to CGT care of their website. I'm happy to furnish .jpg copies to interested parties including, of course, Elephant Talk, should you desire. Nelson Black ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 20:18:25 -0800 From: studio seventeen productions Subject: Rare Bears Promo 7" single up for auction on ebay Hello ETers, Just wanted to let you know I put my Bears "Trust" promo single up for auction on ebay, please check it out at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=74791638 cheers, dave at studio seventeen http://members.tripod.com/technoambient/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 08:03:31 PST From: "Stephane Carbonneau" Subject: Propagande playlist 03-06-99 Playlist Of PROPAGANDE PROGRESSIVE ROCK on March, 06, 1999 CFOU 89,1fm Trois-Rivieres, Quebec, Canada http://rage.uqtr.uquebec.ca/ In REAL-AUDIO! Each Saturdays from 5pm to 7pm (Quebec time) propagande at hotmail dot com Host: Stephane Carbonneau 1- KING CRIMSON - The Great Deceiver (Starless & Bible Black) 2- KING CRIMSON - Lament (Starless & Bible Black) 3- EDHELS - Tension (Angel's Promise) 4- SITHONIA - Ombra Nella Nebbia (Hotel Brun) 5- IQ - Sleepless Incidental (Subterranea) 6- BLUE SHIFT - Wide Awake and Dreaming (Not The Future I Ordered) 7- BLUE SHIFT - Not The Future I Ordered (Not The Future I Ordered) 8- BLUE SHIFT - Rome (Not The Future I Ordered) 9- TRESHOLD - Goodbye Mother Earth (Clone) 10- SEA OF DREAMS - Eagle (Land Of Flames) 11- COLLAGE - Living In The Moonlight (Moonshine) 12- THE NIGHTWATCH - My Ivory Soul (Twilight) 13- RING OF MYTH - Messenger (Unbound) 14- GENESIS - Twilight Alehouse (Archive 67-75) 15- ALASKA - Tiananmen Square (Alaska) 16- GALAHAD - Live & Learn (Sleepers) If you have any comments about the show or if you have news to tell, Please write me: PROPAGANDE A/S Stephane Carbonneau 2610 Boul. de La Concorde Est Laval, Quebec H7E 2B2 Canada propagande at hotmail dot com Thanks. Stephane. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:34:01 -0500 From: "rich mlinar" Subject: GIG REVIEW: Adrian Belew Radio Interview and Release Party On Thursday, February 25th, Adrian Belew participated in an interview on WHTG-FM, at the Jersey Shore, to promote the release of Salad Days. Adrian discussed his career, songwriting, the new CD, and upcoming plans. The DJ played three cuts from the CD, and Adrian performed Three of a Perfect Pair live in the studio. Adrian was very personable throughout the interview. He mentioned that Robert Fripp will be coming to his house in Nashville in June to work on material for a new Crimson album, and that the band will be in the studio before the end of the year. Prompted to discuss other musicians he had worked with, Adrian told interesting stories about his discovery by Frank Zappa, touring with David Bowie, Talking Heads, and Paul Simon, and studio work with Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails. When asked to compare working with Robert Fripp to working with other musicians, Adrian responded that "all of them were very interesting and innovative," and that he had "an 18-year partnership with Robert Fripp, who loves coming to my house to work in the studio." He also said that "Robert is not nearly as stand-offish as he seems to the general public, he has a good sense of humor." The following night, Adrian performed at the free CD release party at The Mercury Lounge in New York before a crowd of about 200. Adrian was on stage for a little over an hour, answering questions and performing. Crimson fans were thrilled to hear Adrian perform Dinosaur, Three of a Perfect Pair (with the audience performing backing vocals), Frame by Frame, Heartbeat, and the opening moments of Thela Hun Gingeet. Adrian was in fine musical form in the intimate setting. Despite being accompanied by only his acoustic guitar, his inspired interpretation of the Crimson material, both vocally and instrumentally, won the crowd over. He also played some of his solo material, including The Lone Rhinoceros, Young Lions, Men in Helicopters, The Rail Song, Never Enough, and some other songs that I can't remember. Adrian responded to questions and requests shouted from the audience. He again spoke about Robert Fripp coming to Nashville in June. He mentioned that he doesn't find it hard to work with Fripp, but that Bill Bruford might answer that question differently! He discussed his prior work with The Bears, and with other musicians that he had worked with. He explained how he had given the string quartet that appears on Men in Helicopters a copy of Eleanor Rigby to listen to for inspiration. At the conclusion of the performance, Adrian remained at the front of the stage and signed CDs and amiably chatted with audience members. Adrian's warmth and powerful performance made it a very memorable evening. Rich Mlinar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:58:04 -0800 From: rtc at sirius dot com (Robert Cambra) Subject: GIG REVIEW: Vernon Reid/Trey Gunn Gig Review--Vernon Reid/Trey GunnMaritime Hall--San Francisco--Friday 26 February 1999 When Vernon Reid came out during the sound check and played, just for a few seconds to test the equipment, I knew I was in for a treat. Folks, Fripp ain't just being polite. Reid is great. I can't remember the last time I've been so excited to discover a new musician in person. He's versatile, inventive, dynamic, subtle and everything he plays is entirely convincing; a very musical man playing because he must. Trey Gunn was in his usual fine form. His playing seemed to be the easy expression of bemused and intriguing thoughts passing through his mind; and during a ballad he gently plucked out the notes with the grace and sensuality of one blowing bubbles. The drummer, Charles Hayward, worked up a sweat powering the band along very nicely. The only weakness with the lineup was singer Percy Howard. He has a great voice but the material suffers from his overly sincere, melodramatic delivery--but this wasn't always too much of a problem. Since everyone else was so strong, he wasn't too difficult to ignore most of the time, even though the material centered around his singing. Buckethead (a Halloween comedy performance troupe disguised as a heavy metal band--the guitarist performed with a KFC bucket on his head) opened the evening and had drawn a lot of their own audience who left before Vernon/Gunn came out. A strange billing. Don't miss a chance to see Vernon Reid! Robert Cambra ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 11:46:26 -2400 From: Chris Van Valen Subject: GIG REVIEW: Adrian rocks the Mercury Lounge 2/26/99 Hi EYMs(&Ws) I got to the Mercury Lounge at about 5:05 and was pleasantly surprised that I was the only one there. By about 5:20 there was maybe a dozen people when Adrian arrived, guitar and Martha in hand, and we gave him a warm ovation, to which he responded with his usual sheepish grin. Doors opened at 5:30(on time! A club first!) and I grabbed a ringside chair. By the time Adrian hit the stage(6:30),the crowd in this small club(in its former identity it was a showroom for headstones!) came to about 100. Adrian sat alone on the stage with a single cutaway acoustic and launched into "Young Lions" The atmosphere was warm and extremely casual. Q & A was interspersed throughout and requests were played. The set list: Young Lions Men In Helicopters Dinosaur The Rail Song The Lone Rhinoceros("I wrote this with Ringo Starr's voice in mind") Thela Hun Jingeet(only the first 12 bars) Frame By Frame(first verse) Never Enough Heartbeat Three of a Perfect Pair I Remember How to Forget During "Three", Adrian called for the crowd to sing Tony's parts, which went enthusiastically. During the middle rhythmic part, he said,"Now sing the guitar solo!" Some of the Q & A: Q: What's it like to work with Fripp? A: It depends on whether you're Adrian Belew or Bill Bruford. Q: Did you ever snap a guitar neck? A: Yes, on the Twang Bar guitar, which now hangs on my wall as an icon. News flashes: On the future of Crimson, RF will come to Nashville in June to write new material. They will record near the end of this year with a tour possibly next Spring. The next Bears album features an RF solo on one track. Adrian's next album will be a power trio with a tour to possibly come. Since he played all the instruments on the album, the other two players have not been selected. The next album in the experimental series,"The Animal Kingdom", is underway with the title track clocking in at around 15 minutes. No plans immediately to record with Mike Keneally, although they have spoken on the phone. Same deal with Andy Partridge. Adrian finished up at 7:30, signing whatever was handed to him. They were also selling "Salad Days" outside for $12. Because of the two live tracks, as well as the best bits of the first two acousitc albums, it's a good buy. CV ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #576 ********************************