Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #573 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 573 Saturday, 20 February 1999 Today's Topics: Did he really say that? radiohead More turgidity on Deja Vrooom RE:The Link Between KC and SNL is Finally Established!!!! Re: Discipline Norbert Fragg Answers Your Burning Questions Re: Bonus Tracks! Re: t shirts Re: RF--The Lady & The Tiger(variations thereof) Re: Mujician simple answers to simple questions Bartok, Cage, and Fripp more sacred songs re: Sacred Songs, USA, and album art Dumb audiences link to e.tamm's book about r.fripp CD's for sale or trade help Re: Annette Peacock Solicit videos, autographs, PP Web site, flashes, copywrites Gig Announcement: Markus Reuter/Dark Aether Project/Quarkspace Cirkus Re: Neurotica A cross in the ocean Adrian Belew Interview Re: Michael Hedges and KC Can new material be archival? MCDONALD,IAN-DRIVER'S EYES ET eats cake Washington, DC ET'ers Meeting Travel Bleary Capricorn The Sufi Cassette ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.htm You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.5b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:06:39 GMT From: et at blackcat dot demon dot co dot uk (Elephant Talk) Subject: Did he really say that? TJ Mathews wrote... > If it came down to the Club going beyond the first six > releases and your chance to seen live Crim, which would > you choose? The first six club releases, probably. I don't know about anyone else here but my experiences of gigs has been almost uniformly band; poor acoustics and a poor balance and/or mix, together with a lack of any depth in texture are made up for by turning the PA up to an almighty ear-shattering volume which obscures any chance you might have of actually hearing what is being played. Maybe some people like that, although I would like to think that for my money I'd prefer something more than the inevitable ear-bleeding and tinnitus. Mike Dickson - Elephant Talk Administration (et-help at blackcat dot demon dot co dot uk) For subscription information post HELP to et-admin at blackcat dot demon dot co dot uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:59:02 EST From: JMille1743 at aol dot com Subject: radiohead I was wondering if fripp has made any public comments about radiohead's ok computer. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:23:29 -0000 From: "Ronald Chrisley" Subject: More turgidity on Deja Vrooom >Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:43:28 +1300 >From: David MacLennan >Subject: DEJA VROOOM - playable on normal CD? >I asked this once before but met a deafening silence >(figuratively speaking), so I'll ask it again now that the >thing is released: Is there any part of the audio track on >the Crimso DVD that is playable on a normal CD player? No. Now my question, since I posted this to 4 newsgroups and got no response: Just got Deja Vrooom, and I am a bit disappointed that it doesn't work properly with my computer DVD drive using CyberLink's Power DVD program. I managed to get most of it to work, but I can see none of Levin's movies, nor the artist's slideshow, nor can I hear the soundscapes. The menu buttons don't appear -- I have to search the screen for places where my cursor turns into a pointer, etc. Any ideas? Is there a better DVD player program out there, preferably share/freeware, that will solve my problems? Or is this unavoidable on a PCDVD drive? Also, Indiscipline cuts out right after the intro, when Bruford gives the signal to begin the "violent" section. In fact, it *frezees* there most of the time. Is this the same for anyone else? And between each song there is a gap with a pink flash. On anyone else's? Also, Three of a PP is on side two, not side one as listed. Thanks, Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:04:42 EST From: Enoboy at aol dot com Subject: RE:The Link Between KC and SNL is Finally Established!!!! >>From the New York Times Magazine, Sunday 1/31/99 profile of >>actor/comic Bill Murray: "(In the early 80's) Murray and his >>first wife...lived in Paris, where Murray studied >>philosophy, particularly Gurdjieff, and history at the >>Sorbonne..." Actually, there is a much more tangible link. Fripp recorded "Sacred Songs" using most of Darryl Hall's back up band, which included G.E. Smith, who was also the guitar player on the SNL band. Fripp was known to have hung out on the SNL set on a number of occasions along Mr. Smith's significant other of the time, Gilda Radner. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:26:20 -0800 From: "Stephen L Arnold" Subject: Re: Discipline On 14 Feb 99, a couple guys mentioned Starless: I've been engrossed in the newer stuff lately (especially OZTW) but after putting on Red today (and listening to it 3-4 times while I sat at the keyboard working) I came to the following conclusion. After listening to RF's playing on Starless, I think I know why the title Discipline came up the next time around... And I *like* Adrian's drumming (and guitar, vocals, lyrics, etc). I just wish some of the tracks on OZTW weren't so short. Just a thought. ************************************************************* Steve Arnold http://www.rain.org/~sarnold Linux: It's not just for nerds anymore... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:01:46 EST From: Bknt at aol dot com Subject: Norbert Fragg Answers Your Burning Questions Dear Team, A tape has passed into my possession, allegedly recorded by a cruel, rapacious fan of the noted but not overly quoted, petulant but rarely ebullient, spiteful and almost never contriteful digressive rock guitarist, Norbert Fragg. According to the fan's whining confession, extracted only after I played all 16 CD's from the Compleat Barry Manilow Boxed Set, the tape was obtained during a concert in which Mr. Fragg was appearing with Projyecch 3.1415 and, mirable dictu, was not flash-photoned during the entire evening. When Mr. Fragg reappeared on stage, the fan shamelessly activated a SECRET TRANSMITTER that he had plugged in an unmentionable orifice, and, captured, with added descriptive detail, a wry and witty Q&A between the acrimonious Spikey Tike and selected audientals. So wormy is this tape with insights into Fragg matters that I just had to transcribe it and fling it into the far reaches of fiberspace. Thus: Norbert Fragg Answers Your Burning Questions Audient 1(earnest, no longer young man, facial hair): I have an unpleasant nature and don't like people. Is this an obstacle to work? NF (severely peeved): That is not a burning question. In fact, that isn't even warm. I want burning questions, and not from hirsuit earnest young men who have are concerned with the evolution of progressive rock. I want burning questions from the ladies. Are there any ladies out there? I see a gentleman with a violin. Audient 2 (comedian, ancient): That's no lady, that's my wife. NF: That, sir, is not a question. Burning questions, please. Audient 3 (ingenuous female, peculiar facial piercings, passively vibrating due to massive overdose of serotonim reuptake inhibitors): How can I get started in the music business? NF: Beginnings are invisible. Therefore, make yourself invisible. Then stand in front of a train. The effect of being ground under the inexorable wheels of British Rail has remarkable congruence to the manner in which I was received as a contract player with FeeGee Records. What, you don't know that the music industry is sewn with indigestion and stitched with tweed and and yet, it is possible for the sincere musician to survive in the marketplace without being in the market for a place. If you are a person who lives on the first floor, spits in the cellar and mucks around in the garden, this will appear with some clarity. If you are a dope, you're a dope all the way from your first recording contract to your last royalty. Audient 4 (angry, sexually ambiguous): Mr. Fragg, I live in a cellar and I believe your persistent use of architectural metaphors in your diary to explain your neo-platonic metaphysical class structure to be demeaning to those such as myself who feel quite comfortable in dank, grotty spaces. In an effort to comprehend your tetchy importunings, I left my happy hovel to view this garden of which you speak so highly. I found it to be dark and filthy, pest infested plot littered with scraggly vegetation. Upon gazing upward I noticed only a dark and distant ceiling pocked with tiny holes that admit light from the floor above. Are these holes actual gaps in the ceiling, or are they merely the absence of darkness? NF: No and no. Audient 5 (large and under the impression that Carey Grant impressions are easy): Norbert, Norbert, Norbert, in your diary you mentioned a concert in Protuberance, Ohio in which you, a performer, found that the music died, and yet, you kept performing. I attended that concert. I was the one who threw a rhubarb pie in your face. When this failed to get your attention, I climbed up on stage, waved to my girlfriend and took numerous flash photos of your grimmacing face. After this, I bludgeoned you repeatedly with a bullet microphone that I was using to record your performance. I then asked you why you broke up your first band. You didn't answer me. Why? NF: I don't care for pie. Audient 6 (Female, stunning and not too much eye make-up) Oh, Mr. Fragg, I'm afraid the spark has gone out of my marriage. My husband and I met when we were listening to your music and we thought you were so intellectual and philosophical and apocalyptical and polyrhythmical, and whatever else is in that Robert Palmer song. But I had to leave my husband when I finally found a vinyl copy of that record you made when you were with The Meagre Gentlemen, you know, God Shave the King, and I listened--really listened, with my eyes closed, my ears opened, my expectations unimprisoned, my soul exposed, every critical facility in my consciousness tied up in some great and terrible bondage to your utterly selfless desire to BE A PERFORMER and TO NOT KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT--and I really listened, just like the audient I was born to be, to that part on the record where you have that girl sounding like she is having this great, big, incredible--you know--MOMENT--and I figured that any man who would devote his entire life to an inquiry into how music might--umm--come into the world, well, and, can I be your Foaming Terror Lady? Can I I respond like a limousine, brought alive on a silent screen? Can I sit in a chair in my sad America? Can I be your number one fan? Can I PLEASE fetishize and reify your every bleat? Can I, can I, can I have your autograph? NF (impersonating Steven Seagal impersonating Clark Gable): Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. At this point the sound on the tape becomes indiscrete, if not indiscreet, as numerous audientals let fly a variety of pies, cakes and cheese-injected dessert items that fall lavishly upon the rapidly retreating guitarist, who, when last heard of, was solemnly holding his pic so as to better hold his tongue. Bill Kent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:50:59 EST From: DanKirkd at aol dot com Subject: Re: Bonus Tracks! Dan B. wrote: > With Our Man Robby's announcement of France '82 as C.C. No. > 4, this brings to mind the fact that ain't this going to be > the Frejus show (where they opened for Roxy Music--believe > it or not)--that was finally re-released on video after a > long time? Recalling, the length of 'The Noise' was > approximately 1 hour. If this is the case, then I'm sure > Robert realizes many people already have a hi-quality > version of a large part of this show when they purchased the > video. Therefore, I'm sure he will seek to 'sweeten the > kettle' for the CD by tossing in some additional songs which > didn't make the cut onto videotape. (Assuming they played > longer than 60 minutes that night, right?) As one of the 15 thousand audients at the Frejus show in 1982, I can tell you three tracks played that night didn't make it onto the video release: Thela Hun Ginjeet, Red, and Elephant Talk. So hopefully if the entire set makes its way onto the Club release we'll get to hear those tracks. Keep in mind though that as the opener for Roxy they played only about an hour all told. Dan K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:51:02 EST From: DanKirkd at aol dot com Subject: Re: t shirts Greg asks: > I was wondering if any web site you know of would sell me a > crimson t-shirt; assuming someone makes them If you are looking for KC t-shirts go to the DGM web site and order them from them. The North America offerings include a t-shirt for almost every KC release cover. The URL: http://www.discipline.co.uk/ Dan ET Web ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:23:20 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: Re: RF--The Lady & The Tiger(variations thereof) At 11:02 PM 2/14/99 GMT, you wrote: >I don't know if any of you out there have noticed but the >story: "The Lady and The Tiger has a marked resemblence to >The Grateful Dead's "Terrapin Station". > >Each involves a lady and a choice of whether to brave a >tiger. "Terrapin Station" came out in 1977. "The Lady & >The Tiger" came out in 1984. > >Any comments? Now are you referring to the actual story itself? If so, then it would be more appropriate to say that Terrapin Station has a marked resemblence to The Lady & the Tiger. The story was not written by Fripp or Toyah. It was actually first published in 1882 making it quite a bit older than either album release. The author, Richard Stockton, I believe, died in 1902. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:40:39 -0800 From: "D. Chinn" Subject: Re: Mujician Just in case anyone still doesn't know before they buy their tickets... Although the Mujician band does indeed contain Keith Tippett of "Poseidon", "Lizard" and "Islands" fame, the Tony Levin involved is not our TL but another TL - this one's a longstanding British free jazz drummer. At the risk of being even more pedantic, the Paul Rogers mentioned ain't the Bad Company guy, but one of this second TL's colleagues (a bassist). So expect British free-scene scurrying, but don't expect anything that's got much to do with KC. Enjoy yourselves, Dann Chinn dchinn at btinternet dot com http://www.collective.co.uk/misfitcity ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:55:48 -0500 From: "David Cohen" Subject: simple answers to simple questions > David Wrote: < > Subject: DEJA VROOOM - playable on normal CD? I asked this once before but met a deafening silence (figuratively speaking), so I'll ask it again now that the thing is released: Is there any part of the audio track on the Crimso DVD that is playable on a normal CD player?>> This is like asking if any part of a VHS cassette is playable on an audio cassette deck. This is probably why you never got an answer. To the dude looking for t-shirts, dgm has been selling dozens of different t-shirts for years. Have some coffee, it will wake you up. Shirts are fine quality and great bargin. DC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:29:32 -0600 (CST) From: flaherty michael w Subject: Bartok, Cage, and Fripp I. While the Bartok discussion was indeed ended before it began, there is obviously some interest in Bartok's acknowleded influence on Fripp (months later it keeps coming up), so let me just say that the String Quartets are particularly important in this regard, and that #5, particularly the final movement, is, in my opinion, the most obvious (which is not to necessarily say greatest) example of this influence. Please note that we are refering to concepts here more than exact sound: if you do not enjoy modern classical music, you won't want to buy these quartets. The Tokyo String Quartet's versions are quite good. II. Those who find Fripp's writing on music (not to mention his non-rock influences) interesting may be interested in the writings of John Cage, particularly the "Silence" collection. While Cage's influence (in thought and music) is more obviously seen in Eno's work, I find Cage's basic approach to musical theory quite similar to Fripp's (albeit more to Fripp's solo work and writings than to Crimson). Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:12:39 -0500 From: Boomstick Industrie Subject: more sacred songs in ET #572, Bill Lantz wrote: >Great! Now if you could add Peter Gabriel II in there- RF >would be hard pressed to top that for artwork for a trilogy >box featuring outtakes, photos, notes, enhancements, >interviews - well it's a thought anyway. How about: Box Set One: PG II, Exposure, Sacred Songs Box Set Two: 80's Crimson (Red,Yellow,Blue) Box Set Three: Damage, USA, Live In Japan a trilogy of trilogies!? I've actually owned PG II on vinyl, cassette (gave it away) and CD, and my damn CD skips! Aargh. Err... Just looking at the actual CD today. It says Daryl Hall + John Oates: Sacred Songs. The lyrics sheet and cover are all from the original, and just say Daryl Hall. Does BMG Japan know about this, or care? Dave Dave Oliver | Everyone talks about the weather, and nobody Lead Designer, | does anything about it, so I'm building Boomstick Industrie, LLC | a weather machine. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:46:10 +0000 From: Mick Wright Subject: re: Sacred Songs, USA, and album art Another abrupt end is on 2002 from Fripp's 1994 DGM recording "1999 Soundscapes-Live in Argentina" - that's all folks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:14:23 +0100 From: Daniel Santo Orcero Subject: Dumb audiences The matter about flashes in concerts really seems to me very simple. The artist is a musician, not a top model. And the most annoying fact must be not only the fact that the light is disturbing, as David Todd says in ET#569; my thought is that you're a musician, trying to make a good performance, and people is more interested in treating you as an teeny idol. The fact speaks "i don't care about your music, i just want to have a proof that i've seen you". I read somewhere that F. Zappa cancelled a concert because one of the amps didn't sound right, and the people booed about it. Zappa spoke angrily to the audience, something like "do you simply want us to make a clown show for you? you wouldn't see the difference if all the amps were broken". That's what a musician can feel when someone makes that sort of things; like playing to a dumb wall. DanieL dsanto at activanet dot es ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:05:59 +0100 From: "Roderich v. Detten" Subject: link to e.tamm's book about r.fripp "good evening hippies", my latest dicovery in the www: the homepage of eric tamm, author of the out-of-print biography of mr. fripp. voila: http://www.peoplesoft.com/peoplepages/t/eric_tamm/index.htm very interesting: the whole chapter 10 "guitar craft" (ennobled by the object himself) can be found there! greetings roderich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:16:11 PST From: "Matt D" Subject: CD's for sale or trade I have the following CDS for sale or trade Robert Fripp aand the League of Crafty Guitarists Live in Europe 1991 Show of Hands John Wetton King's Road 1972-1980 Adrian Belew Inner Revolution \ Rimitti Cheikha Featuring Robert Fripp and Flea All in great condition Looking to trade for the Absent Lover's CD or Prometheus Please email me for more info Matt Deibert dibes at hotmail dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:45:26 -0600 From: "Oscar Castillo Manzanares" Subject: help I can buy Cd in this site or not, I'm seeking the records USA (live) and Great Deciver 1973-1974, but in the place where i'm ussualy buy this type of music not find it, for example musicblvd & cdnow, please help, thanks for your help ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:37:07 +0000 From: Chris Warburton Subject: Re: Annette Peacock >Can anyone tell me what became of Annette Peacock (vocals >and co-writer on Brufords' Feels Good To Me. I vaguely >remember an album called 'X' or something like that around >1978-79 The album was called X-Dreams, originally released on RCA (I think) as was another album whose name escapes me for the moment; both of these featured musicians (many British) from the hinterlands between jazz & rock. In the early 80s there were a couple of albums on an independent label - mine are in storage so I can't be more specific, the last that I know of being a selection of material covering quite a long time span & called "Back On The Streets" . ChrisW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:00:44 -0500 From: s craig stamm Subject: Solicit videos, autographs, PP Web site, flashes, copywrites Hello fellow Crimheads, It is time once again for me to de-lurk and throw out some fodder. I have noticed that Robert has more or less solicited "boot" copies of concerts in his February 8, 1999; 10:11 diary note: "If Craig (Astley), or anyone else with favourite bootlegs, would like them considered for release by DGM please send the originals to us. We'll transfer them to DAT and put them in the archive." I would think that this applies to videos as well. As you know there has been a bit of a clammer for 1969-1974 videos of the group, and if good copies exist out there in Cyberland (or elsewhere), then by all means send them to the Gigster so DGM, KC, and the fans can benefit by their official release. Surely some of you have the Midnight Special, Beat Club, Top of the Pops or Atlantic Promo videos on your shelves. BTW, the "Easy Money" clip from the Atlantic Promo appears @ 44:16 into the Yes Years (1991) "A Retrospective" (ATCO) video and lasts for about 30 or so seconds. I noticed that in the credits it says, "courtesy of Chris Kettle and EG management". Surely, if Yes could get permission to show this clip, then DGM (or Virgin) and KC should be able to do so in its entirety as well (I would hope). Not to tread on a banned topic (and he tries), but I feel that if you really want Robert's autograph you should buy a signature series CD like I have of B'Boom (nice signatures of all double trio members) or go to a release signing function, and not hassle him at concerts. Also, (IMHO) if you really thrive for his attention do something of good that he may notice (lots of suggestions here). However, please don't bother the man--he has definitely made this clear. It sure would be nice if Robert could put Dan to work on getting the Possible Productions Web Site up and running again here in the US. Surely this would facilitate US orders, and save time on personnel answering e-mails, etc... On the subject of flash photography and Gigster exit, I have to wonder if wearing glasses complicates the exposure to flash by bringing about a lensing effect (concentrating the light). I know the primary function of glasses is to change the focal point, but by presenting more surface area than the eye, I wonder if this intensifies the problem. I have not asked this question to any of my glasses wearing friends yet, but I have to wonder... Also, I wonder how Robert feels about the simple act of copying a KC CD that I purchased onto tape so I can listen to it in the car (I don't have a CD player there) or elsewhere. Does this infringe on the copywrite as to destroy the spirit of the music if it is a live recording? Can this "act of copywrite violation" be considered benevolent taping (as long as I keep it to myself). If I gave a copy to my wife would I be liable for prosecution? This has seemed to be a grey area that no one speaks about very often. TAFN, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:04:16 -0500 From: Mark Chapman Subject: Gig Announcement: Markus Reuter/Dark Aether Project/Quarkspace Hello Earnest Young Crimpersons! I wanted to let you all know about a nifty show coming up in the Washington, DC area. No advance tix are necessary. Location: Phantasmagoria (club) in Wheaton, Maryland (http://www.phantasmagoria.com). Date: Saturday, March 13. The lineup for the evening will comprise Markus Reuter of the Europa String Choir (check out the DGM page), Dark Aether Project from Baltimore (http://www.DarkAether.Net), and the space rock offerings of Quarkspace (http://www.quarkspace.com/). Additionally atmospherics and visual stimulation will be added by the wonderful displays of Solar Fire Lightshow (http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/). This is assured to be a very enjoyable evening, and if you are so inclined, you can join fellow D.C.-area Crimheads at an afternoon tete-a-tete preceding this show at Phantasmagoria. Join us for friendly conversation, some good beverages, CD/record shopping and listening, and other good stuff. You can *add*: Contact me directly if you seek any further information. Regards, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:15:26 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: Cirkus Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . But here are some KC related excerpts especially for you. On our import pre-order page you'll find information on the following forthcoming releases: KING CRIMSON-CIRKUS (2CD) (European edition) Rarities from throughout the entire career of this phenomenal English prog rock outfit. KING CRIMSON-CIRKUS (Japanese edition) of the English prog rock icons' 1999 rarities collection in a miniaturized LP sleeve and available from Japan before the rest of the world. KING CRIMSON-SCHIZOID MAN + 1 $19.95 (Japanese edition) of acclaimed EP featuring five different versions of Crimson's classic '21st Century Schizoid Man', plus an undisclosed bonus track. Six tracks total. Comes in a digipak. And available now on our new imports page is the following from Mrs. Fripp: TOYAH-ANTHEM + 6 Reissue of the hit British pop vocalist's 1981 album for the Safari label, complete with the CD-ROM video to Godley & Creme's clip for 'I Want To Be Free' added, as well as six undisclosed bonus audio tracks that are on disc for the first time. TOYAH-CHANGELING + 7 Reissue of '80s album, complete with a CD-ROM video of Godley & Creme's clip for 'Thunder In The Mountains' and seven undisclosed bonus audio tracks that are on disc for the first time. Coming March 16 from DGM is Bill Bruford & Earthworks/A Part, Yet Apart. Bill Bruford has a habit of working with only the most incredible musicians even if we haven't heard of them yet. He's been touring with a brand new Earthworks comprised of saxophonist Patrick Clahar: a terrific young improviser, highly thought of in the London scene, played with Steve Grossman, Valery Pomarov, Incognito, among others; keyboardist Steve Hamilton: trained at the Berklee School of Music, Boston, U.S., played with Van Morrison, Pee Wee Ellis, Freddie Hubbard, Bobby Hutcherson, Gary Burton, and others; Bassist Geoff Gascoyne: one of the most in-demand London jaz players, has played with Sting, Van Morrison, Georgie Fame, US 3, Tommy Smith, Guy Barker, and others. If the new Earthworks is half as talented as the old Earthworks, this new album will be a delight! For those of you into live performance, here are some touring dates. On our DGM page you'll find the following dates for Bill Bruford & Earthworks, and the Europa String Choir: Bill Bruford's Earthworks May 20 Arts Centre Poole, Dorset 21 Waterfront Carlyon Bay, Cornwall 23 Bull Theatre, Barnet, Herts 25 Corn Exchange Newbury, Berks 26 West End Centre Aldershot, Hants 27 Mill Arts Centre, Banbury, Oxon 28 Watermans Arts Centre, Brentford 29 Blackheath Concert Halls, London 30 Clair Hall Haywards Heath, W.Sussex June 2 Arts Centre Swindon 3 Gantry Arts Centre Southampton 4 Lichfield Arts Centre Staffs 5 Arc Theatre Trowbridge, Wilts 6 The Stables Wavendon, Bucks Europa String Choir February Wed 17 Coventry Arms Corfe Mullen, Dorset 8.30pm Thur 18 Mr Smith's Piano Bar Poole Hill, Bournemouth 9pm Sat 20 Arts Centre Salisbury 12 noon - 1.30pm Sat 20 Zodiac Club Oxford 8.30pm Sun 21 Arts Centre Dorchester 7.30pm Bill's fellow Crim, Adrian Belew, has a brand new release on Thirsty Ear Records (which will soon have a page in The Artist Shop!). Presently you'll find it at . Salad Days combines tracks from BelewPrints and The Acoustic Adrian Belew with live tracks heard here for the first time. This collection of acoustic performances includes song selections from his solo history as well as with King Crimson. On the same page we've also added a hard to find gem that many of Adrian's fans will appreciate, The Psychodots/Ripley's Live - the Official Bootleg. The Psychodots are none other than Rob Fetters, Bob Nyswonger and Chris Arduser. Many will recognize them as Adrian's co-horts in The Bears! This double live set comes on enhanced CD's with a music video and photos of the band. Definitely a fun CD! In a tangentially related note, we'll be hosting an IRC chat with Tony Levin's LTE bandmate, Jordan Rudess, this Sunday, February 21st at 3pm eastern/12 noon pacific. Full details on joining the chat can be found at . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:43:16 PST From: "Edgar Kausel" Subject: Re: Neurotica Eb said about James Crary : > So feel free to file his observations squarely under "take 'em > with a grain of salt." And now that I've seen his picture > via his website, well...let's just say that it didn't do > much for his credibility. I don't share Mr. Crary thoughts about RF, but that picture is actually a tribute to ITCOTCK, as you can notice watching the inner drawing of that album... Let's just say that it does a lot for his credibility in terms of his KC passion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:46:12 -0800 (PST) From: Edgar Kausel Subject: A cross in the ocean I've just listened to Keith Tippet's "Une croix dans l'ocean" recorded live at VictoriaVille (check out for him there on May). I only can say : Gee! What a Mujician! "...and may music never be just another way of making money." --Keith Tippet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:07:37 -0600 From: Paul dot C dot Wright at ercgroup dot com Subject: Adrian Belew Interview For anyone interested, there's a pretty good Adrian Belew interview in the Feb/Mar 1999 issue of UR Chicago. I've got their e-mail, and I'll send them a request to post the article to the list, for our friends across the water. Thanks, pcw ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:50:27 -0600 From: Netscape User Subject: Re: Michael Hedges and KC Hedges was wonderful. He eventually had classical training and got into Bartok, who was also a big influence on Fripp. KCers looking for a first Hedges record might do better with something other than the new one, which is mellower than some. Aerial Boundaries and Live on the Double Planet might be better bets to start. Reply to me, if at all, at kkhall at hotmail dot com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:02:50 +0800 From: Brady Drum Company / Chris Brady & Craftsmen Subject: Can new material be archival? It would seem common knowledge that 'new' KC material was recorded in 97 but not released for the (I think very noble) idea that it was not radical enough. Now if you consider one of the points of the archival series to be to give KC enthusiasts a chance to investigate 'snapshots of process', work in development etc., to release this work in the framework of being archival makes sense. Especially if any of the ideas/concepts were used in any of the ProjeKcts (from the liner notes of Space Groove, the piece ConstruKction is obviosly pre-projekct). It may seem odd to consider newish material as archival but given the above and also that both the archival series and the collectors club have (at this stage) a chronology to them I feel this would be a perfect release right before we are hit with the new KC album proper. ( I don't think selling it would be hard either!) Shane Brady ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:57:19 -0800 From: "John Selby" Subject: MCDONALD,IAN-DRIVER'S EYES I thought you might be interested to know. John MCDONALD,IAN-DRIVER'S EYES 517092 UPC 766485170927 Scheduled Release Date: 03/25/99 Japanese edition of 1999 solo debut by the King Crimson veteran featuring earlier availability than the rest of the world. Guests on the album include Michael Giles, Steve Hackett, Peter Frampton and Gary Brooker. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:53:43 -0500 From: tj Subject: ET eats cake It's time for you to pay a visit to the ET sightings page. There is something pleasant to your palate there. It's rumored to potentially change your luck. If everyone goes we'll come closer to world peace. When The Jefferson Airplane sang, "Do it," this is what they spoke of. Tempting or upsetting just click. tj dumela at tidalwave dot net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:16:19 -0500 From: Mark Chapman Subject: Washington, DC ET'ers Meeting Dear Folk: Sorry to say that I spoke too soon when I mentioned that some of the Washington, DC ET'ers would be getting together at the Phantasmagoria club on March 13 prior to the show by Dark Aether Project, Quarkspace, Markus Reuter, and Solar Fire Lightshow. You are welcome to join us for the evening's entertainment (and we certainly recommend it), but our use of the facilities in the afternoon has been preempted. On the other hand, I'm sure some of us will arrive somewhat early for the live music, so feel free to get in touch with me directly if you would like to meet some of the area earnest young men and women. Regards, ~Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:05:13 -0600 From: "Jensen, Gregg" Subject: Travel Bleary Capricorn Hi to all-- I know I'm not the first to make this connection; but I was listening to Epitaph-Volume 1 Track 10--Improv-Travel Bleary Capricorn and I noticed that Roberts Spanish sounding riff on the fist 8 seconds of that track matches note for note the track on the Beatles White Album--The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill. My question is since I believe the White Album came out in 1968 and the Epitaph track was recorded 14 December 1969...Who's copying who? Please help!! Sincerely- Gregg Jensen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:12:42 -0500 (EST) From: deafjim at webtv dot net (James Crary) Subject: The Sufi Cassette Everybody here probably has observed that Robert Fripp play acts a kind of "bobby" or policeman regarding unethical taping, and no doubt there are those who assume it is ethical greed that drives him. I personally doubt the materialist front he is putting up is what really bothers him. What divine spark can be occassionally found in Crimson's stuff can be lost when cameras flash and attention is diverted in props. It's a practical thing. ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #573 ********************************