Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk Digest #532 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 532 Friday, 14 August 1998 Today's Topics: NEWS: ET Admin Shake-Up NEWS: IRC Chat with California Guitar Trio NEWS: Fripp Night at Festival guitarcraft Tool & Fripp 6 Degrees of Fripp: Ginger Spice Re: The Fripp Game: Bootsy Collins RE: Arlington show (correction and clarification) ELP & Schizoid Man Fripp on VIAGRA Melotrons and Elps USA II & S&BB Schoenberg Elephant Talk Digest #531 Re: Partner Poll (ET#531) 8-piece KC? What RF said in Texas Re: The Fripp Game: Bootsy Collins Ian Wallace live 73-74 KC uncut Asbury Park USA, Islands era, Jobson, pavlov's dog an old dream... 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Well, here's some thanks, Mike -- Toby ] Mike Dickson, Black Cat Software Factory, Scotland : Fax 0131-271-1551 crimson at blackcat dot demon dot co dot uk : ET Administrator ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:30:14 -0400 From: Gary Davis Subject: NEWS: IRC Chat with California Guitar Trio Hello Friends! The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . But here's an item of special interest to Elephant Talkers! Big news on the IRC front! At present we have three IRC Chats on the calendar (with more in the works!). On Sunday, September 6, we'll be joined by the California Guitar Trio. The CGT have recently released Pathways, their third album for DGM. Fresh from recent tours with King Crimson and John McLaughlin, they have recorded a heady brew of well known classics and contemporary material. Everything from Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, the theme tune to Pulp Fiction, through to newly-commisioned avant garde pieces all impossibly played on three acoustic guitars. The Trio are also putting together dates for a fall tour. The specific time for this chat has not yet been set, but will be soon. Details on joining the chat can be found at . To find out more about the California Guitar Trio and their new DGM CD, Pathways, go to . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:43:53 EDT From: GasHeart at aol dot com Subject: NEWS: Fripp Night at Festival Hi, these are all events that are part of the second annual Philadelphia Fringe Festival. It has lots of performance art, dance, cutting edge stuff, from 9/9 - 9/19 ... All events listed here are Upstairs at Jake & Olivers' (aka Wichita steak and brew) 22 South 3rd Street Philadelphia, PA, USA Coordinated by Joshua Cohen of Break Even productions (Gasheart at aol dot com) Each event is $7 per person Feel free to write me for more info, or just show up! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx THE PLAY ..... THE GAS HEART - The first surreal play, written in 1920, by Tristan Tzara, co-founder of Dadaism. Directed by Joshua Cohen. This play is a dreamlike trip not to be missed. It is rarely performed, at Art Colleges. The six characters are eye, nose, neck, mouth, ear and eyebrow. Anyone who thinks of him/herself as an artist should definitely see this. It lasts under an hour and will be done every day of the festival. 9/9 - 9/19, 8pm until 9pm. Wednesday 9/9 opening night/press party (hanging out), price includes admission to the play THE GAS HEART that immediately follows. 6-8pm. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES DR. SEUSS MARATHON - Bring your kids, and your books for a marathon reading of Dr. Seuss books. For kids of all ages! Both Saturdays, 9/12 and 9/19, from 1pm until 6pm. TELETUBBIES MARATHON - Those lovely creatures from PBS set the scene for this video marathon/performance art piece. A journey in preverbal communication in a pastural setting. Live bunnies, jugglers, storytellers, more! Milk and cookies will be served. Sunday, 9/13, 1pm until 6pm. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MUSICAL FUN!!......................... JAM SESSION - Bring your drums, your musical instruments, and your lyrics, and a smile. Wednesday, 9/9, 9pm until 12am. AN EVENING OF BRIAN ENO MUSIC - Eno fans Unite! Dance to, Listen to, Discussion of the Music of Brian Eno. Some rareties, and Eno related music, Talking Heads, Devo, U2 ( a semi-seminar) Thursday, 9/10, 9pm until 12am. AN EVENING OF DAVID BOWIE MUSIC - Bowie fans Unite! Dance to, Listen to, Discussion of the Music of David Bowie. Some rareties. Wednesday, 9/16, 9pm until 12am. AN EVENING OF ROBERT FRIPP MUSIC - Fripp fans Unite! Dance to, Listen to, Discussion of the Music of Robert Fripp. Some rareties, and Fripp related music, especially King Crimson ( a semi-seminar) Thursday, 9/17, 9pm until 12am. KLEZMER MUSIC JAM SESSION - Ken Ulansey, Paul Butler and Ed Nardi will be improvising. Their playful explorations draw from Klezmer and Stravinsky, Dixie and Samba, New Age to the Avant-Garde. This concert is subsidized by a grant from the Pennsylvania Council on the Arts. Tuesday 9/15 , 6-8pm. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX The Philadelphia Fringe Festival is inspired by the Edinborough Fringe Festival...in Scotland....which has flourished over the last 30 years... The Box Office for The Philadelphia Fringe Festival opens 8/15/98, and is located at 40 North Second Street Phila., PA , and the Box Office phone number is 215-413-2070 There will be a complete list of events in The Citipaper in September... ...hope to see you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:50:48 -0400 From: "Nicholas Pearson" Subject: guitarcraft Dear Anyone, I am currently seeking information on guitar craft. The net, which is usually a wonderful fount of data, has proven to be a barren wasteland in respect to this subject. If anyone has information on GC please email me at Panick at msn dot com yours truly, Jonathan Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: J Anderson Subject: Tool & Fripp I went to see Tool on Friday, Aug. 7. Before they took the stage, I was treated to 3 of Fripp's soundscapes from "1999 Live in Argentina" album. During the concert the singer said he hoped there were people out there with open minds. He wanted everyone to try something different. He wanted us to forget about the band, use the music as "background music", and do anything we felt like doing. Sounds similar to Mr. Fripp's recent soundscape shows. (I have to give credit to my girlfriend for noticing this similarity.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:28:07 +0100 From: Peter Clinch

Subject: 6 Degrees of Fripp: Ginger Spice Too easy, I'm afraid... Geri was in the Spiceworld movie, which featured Elton John as himself, and after that it ceases to be a challenge. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Dundee University & Teaching Hospitals Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p dot j dot clinch at dundee dot ac dot uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:52:12 +0100 From: "Williams, Paul" Subject: Re: The Fripp Game: Bootsy Collins >>A link for Ginger Spice, anyone ? :-) Rainer requested a link for ginger Spice to KC: here goes..... Ginger Spice was in the Spice Girls. The 1997 Spice Girls tour was arranged and booked by a good old friend of mine called Andy Wooliscroft who has also attended to the tour schedules of other great luminaries such as, amongst others, Todd Rundgren (Godd), Cocteau Twins, Thomson Twins, Genesis, etc etc ad nauseam. Andy Wooliscroft used to be Social Secretary at South Bank Polytechnic (now University); i.e. he put on the gigs I used to be Social Secretary at South Bank Polytechnic (now University) some years later and I did the lights too, I did the lights for the League of Gentlemen way back then. Robert Fripp was in the League of Gentlemen. Robert Fripp was / is KC's main mover. Howzat? Ginger for KC, though I'd prefer Sylvian! Paul W Switch Doktor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 05:06:59 PDT From: "dominic vivaldo" Subject: RE: Arlington show (correction and clarification) The double CD bootleg form this show contains Impov entitled Starless (not Arlington). But it is actually almost the same track as the Glasgow one that appeared on TGD box under the title Tight Scrummy. dv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:17:34 PDT From: "Andy Dean" Subject: ELP & Schizoid Man If ELP's rendition of 21CSM sounds at all like Greg Lake's King Biscuit Flower Hour version, I wouldn't be at all interested in hearing it. Has anybody else heard Lake's KBFH CD? The version of 21CSM contains a long middle section that sounds more like Pink Floyd's "The Dogs Of War" than anything else, and though they do play the more difficult faster section in the middle, you can hear the drummer keeping time on the hi-hat. That's cheating! Still, their version of In The Court of the Crimson King was OK ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:22:02 -0700 From: "Heilbronner, Mike (I)" Subject: Fripp on VIAGRA [Here's a vial of crack and a pipe for you, Toby :) ] [ I say, steady on. I'm British, you know. -- Toby ] Now that I've got your attention, I have a request: If you have any desire to see Moraz/Bruford "Music for Piano and Drums" on cd, please email DGM requesting that it be released for the Collector's Club. Perhaps, if they receive enough requests and IF (this is a big IF) they have any ability to get the copyrights, they'd consider releasing it or at least tell us whether there's a chance they'll release it (so I'd stop bugging them). I did so, and even requested that live material from that all-acoustic tour be included to fill out a cd-length release. Regards, Mike -- who wouldn't know a Tool song if he heard it, but is anxiously awaiting MMW's "Combustication" and Don Byron's "Nu Blaxploitation" to arrive from CD Now. PS: Does anyone else think Joey Barron is the shit? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:42:02 +0200 From: Lars Oyvinn Helden Subject: Melotrons and Elps I would really like to know what a melotron is.Kinda stupid qustion but I need to know:) Could someone send me an ELP version of 21 century schizoid man?I will apreciate it very much:) Peace love and happiness Yours Lars Oyvinn [ Private email only, please! -- Toby ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:17:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Edgar Kausel Subject: USA II & S&BB A lot of people ask to include the complete version of "Asbury Park" in USA II. However, it can be disappointing to listen that song complete. May be it isn't as powerful as the segment included in USA and the Essential KC. The magic might finish. I'd prefer to listen the complete version of "Easy Money". In the USA album, for the first time was Cross' mellotron who was taking the lead and Fripp was beginning to show his "slow" hands. I'm surprised that nobody has ever asked for the complete version of beautiful "The Mincer" in Zurich. One last thing, if the song "Starless & Bible Black" was an improv, how can it be that the final segment is so precise, changing from a fast cymbal-snare drum riding and guitar arpegios to a coordinated splash at the end? Edition may be? (anyway, a great & powerful song, which,together with "Fracture", form the best side B ever from a rock band). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:40:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Schoenberg Thanks to various folks who recommended Schoenberg works to me. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:36:24 -0400 From: George White <75047 dot 3217 at compuserve dot com> Subject: Elephant Talk Digest #531 Re: The Fripp Game: Bootsy Collins (ET 531) >>Bootsy Collins appeared on Herbie Hancock's "Perfect Machine" record. Hancock toured at that time with a group called "The New Headhunters" which included bass player Darryl "The Munch" Jones. This guy played for Sting on his "Bring on the Night" live album, together with drummer Omar Hakim, who in turn played on David Bowie's "Let's dance". And his connection to Fripp should be clear...<< A much more direct line can be drawn from Adrian Belew's work with Talking Heads, which at the time included P-Funk keyboard wizard Bernie Worrell as well. George White Denver, Colo. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:06:49 -0400 From: Bayard Brewin Subject: Re: Partner Poll (ET#531) (Toby, put that down, you've had enough.) [ Hic. -- Toby ] Anybody else reminded of the Baltimore Colts marriage test in the movie "Diner"? God forbid the potential for a rewarding and stable relationship should boil down to a pop kultchah litmus test. ;-) Bayard Brewin (under license from Creation, which contrary to Standard Business Practice, owns the copyright in its work) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:18:14 +1200 From: David MacLennan Subject: 8-piece KC? >From the latest ET: Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:57:00 -0700 From: Herb Boardman Subject: More on Keyboardist. et al Bring back Tippet and Collins, I say! heheh Which brings on another dilemma: 8 musicians? A double-quartet? Hmmm....... Yeah, well Yes tried an 8-piece and look what resulted.... 'Nuff said, I think! [ Nuff said indeed. No followups on this, please. Private email only -- Toby ] David Maclennan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:31:38 -0400 From: "Barry Rogoff" Subject: What RF said in Texas In ET Number 528, Erik DePoy of Lyubertsy, Russia offered a transcription of RF addressing the audience at the 10/6/73 concert in Arlington, Texas. I believe a few minor corrections are in order: "...we have the very great privilege and pleasure of working with a very fine production company, to wit: Wild West." ("To wit" seems to be one of RF's favorite phrases. It means, "that is to say" or "namely.") "There are a number of interesting suggestions... I heard one from a gentleman over here who said 'get on going.' Now... I should think that the American meaning of 'get on going' and the English one, they're probably completely different... the English one is rather rude!" (An example of RF's wry, tongue-in-cheek humor. Apparently, the audience at this show consisted largely of inebriated students to whom an articulate, soft-spoken and somewhat aristocratic-sounding Englishman must have seemed quite incongruous given the nature of the music.) "...there was a request from a gentleman over here to play louder. I would... I would make one suggestion. If we're not loud enough, sir, perhaps you'd care to listen more attentively." (More tongue-in-cheek. King Crimson generally played at a painfully loud volume.) Barry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:15 -0700 From: "Eric D. Dixon" Subject: Re: The Fripp Game: Bootsy Collins Rainer Straschill wrote: >Bootsy Collins appeared on Herbie Hancock's "Perfect >Machine" record. [...] Here's a quicker route: Bootsy Collins has performed on several albums with Bill Laswell. Bill Laswell played bass on Laurie Anderson's _Mister Heartbreak_, which also featured Adrian Belew on guitar. And the link from Belew to Fripp... well, I don't need to spell that one out. Most of the funk world can be easily connected to Fripp through the Laswell/Belew link. Eric D. Dixon http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/6072/ "Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done, and why. Then do it." -- Robert Heinlein ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Edgar Kausel Subject: Ian Wallace Drummers have always been important in live or studio Crimso. Bill Bruford : A great drummer througout the three decades which he has been playing in KC. Mike Giles : I agree with RF words : "a world-class drummer". Jamie Muir : An outstanding, creative and wild percussionist. But what about the other KC live drummer, Ian Wallace? The lefty musican plays simple but very interesting and effective drums on the relaxed fourth KC album, "Islands". Ckeck out "The Sailor's Tale" for example. It's a 3/4 very fluid drum pattern leaded by a nice paradiddle of ride cymbal and snare drum. Or in "The Letters" where he plays what I call the "paradigm" of simple and powerful drumming without losing the originality. Have you listen to the KC classic "Ladies of the Road"? Wallace plays firm through Fripp & Collins performances and Boz powerful voice. But you can't fully appreciate him if you haven't listen to live material. A good example is Earthbound's "21st Century Schiziod Man" where Ian shows his hi-hat dexterty and great use of bass drum(s) . In the "Earthbound" track, he leads Fripp solo from a funky drum pattern into a wild rock one. Words by the great commentator Richard Williams in MM: "(the band is) abbeted by Wallace, he's never afraid to go 'outside' " ; "Wallace is not as procise as Giles, but he has perhaps more fire, and makes intelligent use of space and silence". In the track Groon he plays with inensity and demonstrates the complete drummer he is. Despite I don't like that VCS-3 processed drum solo, let's be more objective and quote again RW: "...(on Groon) Wallace plays with energy and power to spare in a solo which builds intelligently up to that extraordinary use of VCS3 on the drums with which he stunned everybody on their British tour". Check Wallace new release at www.finemusic.com Crimheads : Not having an official live 71'-72' CD limitate our knowledge of great and wild musicians who played with Fripp. And I think (like many others) that it should be released independently, not as part of the DGM collectors project. Those musicans deserve it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 98 02:32:33 UT From: "donald chin" Subject: live 73-74 KC The KC concert that Erik Depoy has been seeking to identify is the October 6, 1973 show at the University of Texas at Arlington. It is a good document of a complete KC show from that era. In this particular performance they emphasize the playing of studio tracks, rather than improvs. And as Erik has noted, it contains one of Fripp's announcement gems, especially the part about 'listening more attentively." I actually think he says "get on going," but perhaps one of our English team members can clarify this matter. This leads me to a second point, with regards to Fripp's stage announcements and future archival releases. I agree that a CD of improvs is a great idea. I have long pushed for the "legendary" Central Park improv to see the light of day. I would also like to have a collection of improvs include some of Fripp's announcements. As an avid boot collector, these bits of stage banter are as sought after as the improvs. Each one is unique, from the '74 Felt Forum show where he discusses his run-in w/ the infamous 'Plaster Caster" girls, to the '73 London Rainbow show where Fripp reads press clippings (both positive and negative) and then trys to demonstrate "the Mince" dance steps, to the '73 Waterbury CT gig where he asks if it is true that they are in Alice Cooper's hometown. Undoubtedly there are countless other gems waiting to be heard, along with many improv treasures. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:56:29 -0400 From: "Tommy Kochel" Subject: uncut Asbury Park On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, Michael Garnice wrote: >Now that Fripp has let the cat out of the bag about an uncut >version of Asbury Park, he really has no choice but to >release it. >Fripp stated that he is releasing USA II because >>> I learnt that once anything is released, it never goes away. >Similarly, once a recording is known to exist and is never >release -- good, bad or indifferent -- it becomes >"legendary". Examples include the legendary long version of >The Beatles Healter Skelter, the legendary long version of >Syd Barrett Ramadan, etc. > >If the Fripp opts for the edited version, inquiries about >the release of full version will continue to Fripp (and ET) >for the rest of time! Ah, but Mr. Fripp will likely not be around for the rest of time and, consequently, might not care much about this issue (unless, of course, the Bun would be left to take care of the estate). Tommy Kochel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:38:02 PDT From: "Jon Benfield" Subject: USA, Islands era, Jobson, pavlov's dog Hey, My take on the USA debacle... 1. We have been deluged with 73-74 era KC with GD and NW now he wants to release more? What's next, Richard's Club Atlanta 73 (Alias: Doctor D. Bootleg)??? I recorded the Amsterdam show off the radio in 1984 and it was barely worth getting the CD's just for a couple of tracks I didn't have. A Live disc with Muir would be nice. How about a live disc of the 80's group from the pre-Discipline days or better, a live 96 show featuring 21stCSM? I'd rather have a disc totally comprised of every existing Bruford drum solo from the 80's, edited togetherthan anymore Wetton stuff. 2. The reason Fripp had Jobson overdub Cross's parts is clear to me...Jobson is a much better violinist, at least he was in 1974...on the NW version of LTIA 2, Cross's tone is thin and pale and his intonation isn't perfect...why do you think Fripp mixed out the violin in the Providence version of LTIA2? Eddie's parts are full and rich and do 21stCSM and LTIA2 justice. I say if you do release USA again,leave the Jobson parts on with impunity! (Sorry, Dave...I Love you, baby!) I have a mint condition copy of USA on vinyl that I bought in 1981...I think I'll be OK. 3. A release of ISLANDS era material seems MUCH more important to me...Make it a whole box set...as many concerts/versions as possible I have 12 version of Easy Money and I want BOZ!!!! I have Earthbound, but...you know...I'd love to hear a good sounding stereo version of Formentera/ Sailor's Tale or Ladies of the Road...I feel that Fripp should make this his first priority... I know you have the tapes, Bob. 4. I feel embarrassed sometimes watching some of you grovel at Fripp's feet, salivating for the next "great historical Wetton Era bootleg release"...He will keep releasing this stuff as long as you all keep demanding it, and we will never see a new KC release or any Lizard/ Islands material live. 5. I've noticed that many people write in with questions/ comments that have been exhaustively covered in previous issues. Toby, please remind readers that they can search past issues for subjects they have questions about. By the way, thanks for your dedication, Toby! jaxlad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:26:37 -0700 From: Costanza Baracchini Subject: an old dream... Is it possible, one day or another, to have on cd one show of Fripp,Burrell, Wallace and Collins ? Thanks Ugo Coccia, rome, august,1998 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:08:14 EDT From: DrumSci at aol dot com Subject: Re: Elephant Talk Digest #531:ELP, partner In ET #531 Manuel Fernandez said: >>Funny world. Now ELP are playing Schizoid Man. I'd love to >>hear it! They'll never play Epitaph, though. That means >>Keith Emerson would actually have to play a Mellotron! Hah! >>Go buy one from Fripp! ELP did actually play Epitaph! Way back in 1972 they included it in the middle of Tarkus. No mellotron though. They also redid Schizoid Man on their box set, The Return of The Manticore. Not so strange really. John Wetton continues to do Crimson & ASIA tunes in his live shows. Why not, they are as much a part of Lake/Wetton as anybody. On the subject of partners: My wife and I are both musicians, but our musical tastes run in opposite directions. She had never been to a rock concert before we were married back in 1984. So I took her to see Crimson in 84. She was knocked out! Now she thinks Tony Levin is great & sexy. She was totally thrilled to meet him on the ABWH tour in 89. She's gone to a few other concerts with me, but for the most part we remain poles apart. So you just have to take what you can get. Michael Bettine "There's nothing new except what's been forgotten"-Marie Antoinette/Pat Moraz ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #532 ********************************