Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk Digest #474 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 474 Saturday, 14 March 1998 Today's Topics: NEWS: ProjeKct Two press release NEWS: Last call for entries in 10+ poll NEWS: Projekct 2 tour dates B.L.U.E. R.E.V.I.E.W. ProjeKCt Two (SF Show) Ticket Plea B.L.U.E. Book of Saturday Fanzine Projekct 2 Projekt Tickets ProjeKct 2 in Birmingham KC: Kill Country? re: whimper KC Giving Up the Funk The "German" R. Palmer-James re: fripp's music doesn't scream reality loud enough to some Comment: Slapping/Funk/Credit where due Soundscapes releases... Slap Bass Animals of the Crimson Kingdom Slapping misinformation WANTED: One Ticket to Mar 22 P2 Show in SF KC Connections with Dylan ProjeKct 2 - Southern California Re: Slapping misinformation Fripp and soul: so what? re: 1973 Atlantic promotional film for LTIA re:Bootsy Collins/Brand X / ET #473 ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com, or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ to ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ETWEB: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ You can read the most recent seven editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/cgi-bin/newslet.pl IRC: Regular get-togethers at #ElephantTalk on Undernet Sundays at Noon PST / 3pm EST / 8pm GMT Mondays at 6pm PST / 9pm EST / 2am GMT THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmeister) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest 3.0 package. ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:07:43 -0800 From: Anil Prasad Subject: NEWS: ProjeKct Two press release Hi everyone, I thought you might be interested in reading the official press release accompanying the upcoming ProjeKct Two release and tour. Also, watch for new interviews with Bill Bruford and Trey Gunn on Innerviews soonish-ly. Both will feature an in-depth look at ProjeKct One and Two and all things Crimson. Cheers, Anil P.S. This press release is courtesy of the wonderful folks at Lori Hehr Public Relations. ---- For Immediate Release Discipline Global Mobile presents ProjeKct Two; the first King Crimson fractal to perform in San Francisco ProjeKct Two, featuring Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp and Trey Gunn, is the first of several planned ProjeKcts by fractals of the ever-innovative rock ensemble King Crimson. The ProjeKct Two double album, Space Groove, will be released on Discipline Global Mobile on April 7, 1998. The group will perform special pre-release concerts on March 21 and 22 at the Great American Music Hall, 859 O'Farrell St., in San Francisco. Pre-release editions of Space Groove will be available at the shows. "The aim of these smaller Crimson ProjeKcts, or sub-groups, is to function as research and developments units on behalf of and for the Greater Crim," explains Fripp. Another sub-group, ProjeKct One, features Bill Bruford, Fripp, Gunn and Tony Levin. The quartet improvised four nights of music at the Jazz Cafe in London on December 1-4, 1997. Other ProjeKcts are in progress which will feature Crimson member Pat Mastelotto as well. ProjeKct Two was actually the first of the units into action, recording Space Groove in November at Studio Belewbeloible in Nashville. It finds Belew on V Drums, Fripp on guitars and Gunn on touch guitar and guitar synth. "This takes the art of guitar performance into the 21st century," says Gunn of the innovative style which is ever emerging in ProjeKct Two's performances. The sub-group has a U.S. tour planned with dates in California, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Connecticut and New York. "The practical difficulties of King Crimson working together are immense: expectation from audiences -- of repertoire, and what the legendary and August Crimson is, or might be; expectation from the group of what it is, or might be about-to-be becoming; major logistical problems in touring; and the huge expense in putting the full team together, whether to rehearse or tour," explains Fripp of the fractalisation of King Crimson. "Our current and alternative approach -- for smaller units within the Double Trio to work together privately and publicly rather than for all six of us to clatter and bang away simultaneously, which is often wonderful and frequently invigorating -- has already loosened up the band's view of itself and our sense of possible futures." -- Anil Prasad aprasad at innerviews dot org Innerviews Magazine: Music Without Borders http://www.innerviews.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:18 -0500 From: "Louis Courteau" Subject: NEWS: Last call for entries in 10+ poll Dear fellow ETers, This is the last call for entries before closing date of our 10+ survey (arbitrarily fixed at March 27). In the last few weeks we have been asking some of the 60 respondents to tell us a bit about So & So that was on their list and unbeknownst to us. The feedback we got from this further inquiry has been of such high quality that we're thinking about posting those contributions from time to time in some sort of a column once the dust has settled down a bit. If you contributed and/or have an opinion about how we could or should do it or if you want your contribution to remain private, please let us know at one of the e-addresses below. We take this opportunity to thank publicly and globally all contributors. Our project manager may have fallen back a bit on answering mail, but everything has been read and very much appreciated. One last time, here is the survey question. Please do Eb a favor and answer it seriously like most everyone did: Which musicians do you appreciate enough to have collected at least ten recordings (any kind) or (if 10+ doesn't apply) all of their available production? As one of us recently wrote: I have no choice but to trust the taste of a guy who describes psychotic dung-slingers while listening to Puccini. Keep on, louis courteau and ashley hazelwood loco at caractera dot com kate dot d at virgin dot net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:35:26 -0500 From: Paul Kosens Subject: NEWS: Projekct 2 tour dates You are missing a tour date for projekct2. On May 9'th, Fripp, Belew, and Gunn will play the Intermedia Arts Center (IMAC) in Huntington, Long Island. I just got the announcement from IMAC since I'm on their mailing list. This is a GREAT place to see a show, not a bad seat in the house. I saw Bruford and Earthworks several years ago here, as well as Allan Holdsworth (not together, with Bruford, unfortunately). Any Crimson fans from New York should be at IMAC on May 9th. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:21:03 -0500 (EST) From: vanvalnc at is2 dot nyu dot edu (Chris Van Valen) Subject: B.L.U.E. R.E.V.I.E.W. Hi all I got a promo copy Bruford Levin Upper Extremities last week and only listened to it last night. I didn't know what to expect; I thought it might be jazzy. But I was surprised that this album ROCKS OUT! From start to finish this record is a killer. Incredible colors and dynamics, screeching and wailing guitar by David Torn, incredible bass and stick by Tony(even a few stick solos that actually would give Fripp and Belew a run for their money!), and a really rocking-out Bill. Chris Botti, as usual, is superb and soulful. One track, "Cobalt Canyons", features a bowed upright NS, and is a (is parody the right word?)take on "Kashmir". Two tracks feature discussions over dinner at the Gypsy Wolf Cantina in Woodstock. Another track(the name escapes me now) clearly drew its inspiration from "Red". And Tony's packaging design, as usual, is superb. My overall impression is that this quartet is only scratching the surface of their potential. B.L.U.E. left me wanting more, much more. I only can hope that another(oh God please!) collaboration is in the offing! I can hardly wait until the Knitting Factory on 4/18! Cheers, CV If you have an unpleasant nature and dislike people this is no obstacle to work. -- J.G. Bennett Catch "Forever Knight" on the Sci-Fi Channel every Tue-Thurs at 9PM and 1AM EST. -- Lucien LaCroix ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:27:03 -0800 (PST) From: Master Sleepyhead Subject: ProjeKCt Two (SF Show) Ticket Plea Greetings, all. Though a silent reader of ET for several years now, and always intending my first post to contain a resplendent muse-inspired epiphany, I blush from the actual purpose of the present message. Casting the best-laid plans of mice and men aside, I leap forward to ask whether anyone might have an extra ticket to the Saturday, March 21st ProjeKCt Two show at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco, CA. Any correspondence via private email would be greatly appreciated and equitably rewarded. On the off-chance that my address didn't appear in the header of this message, I'll give it here, too: willough at up dot edu Thanks for your consideration. Now that my silence has ended I'll just have to quit stalling and write my long-pondered post on sound and color. - A Willoughby Portland, Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:40:03 -0800 From: spike Subject: B.L.U.E. Hi there, I am listening to Buford Levin Upper Extremities right now. This is NOT Cloud About Mercury (on of my favorite CDs)! There are times that come close to Thrakking, but I don't think it is very jazzy (as some body posted). Bruford and Levin together seem to have a lot of fun. Torn totally wails, Botti does a lot of wailing too. This CD is a blast. Papa Bear just updated with news about the CD, I'd suggest getting yours today. Take it easy, Spike -When you find the beat, hit it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 19:45:36 UT From: "Clive Lathrope" Subject: Book of Saturday Fanzine Anybody know what's happened to the Book of Saturday Fanzine? It hasn't appeared for months and 'phone calls to the number in the mag are not returned/answered. I reckon I have about 3 issues left on my subscription; how about a new mag or a refund ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: CBYUN at ucrac1 dot ucr dot edu Subject: Projekct 2 Hi Everyone, Okay, here's the deal. Some of us ETers are going to meet before the HoB show on the 24th of this month. The planned meeting time is 6:30, out front, and we're going to have dinner, maybe in the HoB, then camp out in anticipation of the show. We'll be there good and early, so if anyone (~ahem!~, Robert) decides to give us an early preview, or maybe some Soundscapes, we won't miss it. Anyway, if anyone is interested in meeting before the show, or during, to exchange war stories or what have you, please email me, or just show up! Thanks a lot, and hope to see you there! Christie P.S. If anyone has emailed me and not gotten a response regarding this, please remail--I'm sorry to have missed you, but the mail server has been on the blink. Also, to the person who emailed me about the HoB, but never got a response, I'm very very sorry, I accidentally deleted your mail from my spool! Anyway, a belated thank you to whoever that was for their information on the HoB. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:40:16 -0600 From: Rachel Forrest Subject: Projekt Tickets Is there a way (a message board) where I can find out if anyone has an extra ticket for the March 21st SF sold out show? Rachel Forrest ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:35:00 +1100 From: Glenn_Coxhead at neca dot nec dot com dot au Subject: ProjeKct 2 in Birmingham Howdy Folks, I'm arriving in the UK on the 17th April to see Yes' last three concerts. On the drive up to Sheffield it would be great if I could stop off at Birmingham to catch one of the ProjeKct 2 gigs at Ronnie Scott's. Would anyone know : - If tickets have gone on sale yet? - How best to buy the tickets (from Australia)? - How much the tickets are? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:45:14 PST From: "Manuel Fernandez" Subject: KC: Kill Country? In ET473 Dan Kirkdorffer wrote: >Now I know the Blues got its name for a reason, but I tend to associate >such musical tragi-comedy more with Country music, often described as the easiest music to write lyrics to. This remindes me of a funny reflection that appeared in a car magazine (Road & Track) a while back. It went among these lines: This guy was testing a car cross-country, and while driving through El Paso, TX, he talks about the difficulty of finding a radio station that played anything other than country music. He then states that if university studies showed that listening to Mozart increased a person's intelligence, then listening to country will have the opposite effect ;-) I know I'm an ignorant and that it's unfair to generalize, so I try not to hold all country music in contempt -after all, great musicians like Mark Knopfler have an appreciation of it- but I find it mostly insufferable, that is until some rocker bastardizes it, mainly as a guitar playing skill. I realize that Crimson enthusiasts have a broad spectre of listening preferences, but I'll bet that country music will have an extremely low profile on the survey about crimsonite tastes that's currently being done by some fellow ETers. Also, notice how you can find jazz, classical, metal, pop and blues references in KC's music, but hardly any Country. At least that I can remember. Of course, I could be wrong; but I have this theory that country music repels prog. I better get some sleep. cheers! Manuel Fernandez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:15:19 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: whimper >From: "William T. Wallace" > >It amazes me how unaccepting some ETers are of the music of everyone else >but KC or what Fripp seems to like. I've been reading this post for almost >a year and have noticed countless derogatory remarks concerning Yes, ELP, >and others. While the music of these bands may be different from KC and >may not be to your taste, what gives you the right to put it down? The same mystic entity which grants people the right to *praise* a different band. I never understand this double standard which some folks apply to negative vs. positive opinions. And since when is Yes/ELP's music so different from King Crimson's? I mean, if you get down to nitty-gritty details, sure, it's different. But in the overall scheme of things? Back up a step, and take a look at the big picture. Just the fact that these other bands' names arise so often on this list is proof enough, on its own. Eb np: The Halo Benders/The Rebels Not In (uhh...which is closer to King Crimson, Yes or the Halo Benders?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:52:08 -0000 From: "Williams, Paul" Subject: KC Giving Up the Funk On: Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Nate Olmos wrote on the Subject of: KC Giving Up the Funk '.......Feel free to dispute me on this point, but the funkiness of KC might have been evident in the 1973-1974 incarnation. On which tracks I cannot recall, but it might be evident in some of their recordings.' I always thought that the tail end of 'We'll let you know' from 'Starless and Bible Black' was really funky. Indeed I used to include an edited version on party tapes at the time, as I was not a great collector of dance music, and this fitted the bill for about a minute or too. It worked quite well, although the way we used to party, we would have danced to ELP, Gong, Budgie or Yes! (All of whom I still like and respect, before Billy Wallace chimes in) Paul Williams PS anybody heard John Wetton's new offering; is it worthwhile? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:27:55 +0100 From: arampini at www dot asso dot com (Antonio Rampini) Subject: The "German" R. Palmer-James Hello all, in ET 471 James Dignan wrote: "IIRC, about the time of Indelibly Stamped Supertramp left Wales to bas themselves elsewhere (in the states, I think). It could have been that RPJ was unwilling to relocate." Well, here is my contribution to the RP-J forum. I have directly asked Palmer-James in London, during The NightWatch playback, where life has brought him after King Crimson, and at what projeKCts (oops) he has been working at since that time. He did not mention Supertramp; but he spent some minutes to explaine me, in a very lovable way, that he was actually having his business in Germany, the place where, he told me, he has been living since the late '70s (if I remember right). Yes, he was still involved in music, but since that time he has been working just as producer with some german/middle Europe (northern Europe market oriented) disco bands. (PS It was a pleasure to meet him, RP-J is really a nice person. I mean, he was so kind in his answer, and I was probably the 242nd people asking him about that matter that day...). Ciao antonio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:41:59 +0100 From: "napier's bones" Subject: re: fripp's music doesn't scream reality loud enough to some my previous post, titled _fripp's music doesn't scream reality loud enough for some_ may mislead some people as, due to a configuration error, it was sent from my wife's email account and not mine! those who wish to reply are invited to send their emails to this address: turner at embl-heidelberg dot de cheers, robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:34 -0500 (EST) From: vandyne dot 4 at osu dot edu (Bob VanDyne) Subject: Comment: Slapping/Funk/Credit where due Misc: Did Wetton slap?/Stanley Clark was first/who were Bootsy's influences: >From some rock documentary on VH1 or somewhere, Bootsy himself said, though many claimed to be the first to slap, Larry Graham was first. KC playing funk: I agree, ToPP was not KC's first funk, I remember when first hearing Discipline thinking that it was influenced by Talking Heads "Remain in Light." In fact, I'd say Wetton & Bruford got a little funky from time to time in the improvs back in 73, listen to "We'll Let You Know". Credit where credit is due dept: On both "The Night Watch" and "The Great Deceiver", "Exiles" is credited to Fripp, Wetton & Palmer-James. But for the last 25 years its been credited on LTiA to Cross, Fripp & Palmer-James. The later credits are incorrect, right? How is it credited on Cross' own album? On "Epitaph", both "A Man, A City" and "Drop In" were credited to the band as a whole. By the time they evolved into "Pictures of a City" and "The Letters" they were credited only to Fripp & Sinfield. Shouldn't McDonald, Lake & Giles have been given credit on these later titles? I hear no substantial musical difference. Don't think I'll enter "The Devil's Triangle" right now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:20:32 -0500 From: "Dave Lane" Subject: Soundscapes releases... The liner notes of several of the DGM releases over the last few years mention "Soundbites" as the forthcoming 3rd volume of the 1995 live Soundscapes series. When the 3rd volume was released, it carried the title "That Which Passes". In its liner notes, "That Which Passes" claims that there is a goodie called "Soundbites CD Plus Limited Edition Collector's Box", and this volume is the 4th volume in the 1995 Soundscapes series, and the box will hold all four volumes of the set. It would appear that there are actually only three volumes. I have a box that was sent to me by Possible Productions. Presumably, this is the box mentioned in the Vol. 3 liner notes. It is designed to hold only the three jewel cases of "Radiophonics", "A Blessing of Tears" & "That Which Passes". Question: Is there going to be any release called "Soundbites"? I have read reviews of "The Outer Darkness - The Gates Of Paradise" that mentioned it as the 1st volume of a multi-disc (4 CDs?) set. A representative at Possible Productions said that "The Gates Of Paradise" is only going to be a single CD, and that the CD that went to reviewers is missing only one track from the final release, the track being "Sometimes God Hides". They have limited copies of the review pressing for sale at PossProd and DGM. It comes in a cardboard sleeve with John Miller artwork typical to the 1995 Soundscapes series, and little in the way of any other notes. I wonder why the original plans for The Gates Of Paradise were altered? --Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:36:20 -0600 From: "Ott, John" Subject: Slap Bass IN ET 473 "the ugly truth" writes: quote: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: the ugly truth Subject: Bootsy Collins/Brand X difficulties). Stanley Clarke is widely known as the man who "invented" the slap bass technique which can be found occasionally in Tony Levin's playing. Actually It was Larry Graham while playing with Sly and the Family Stone that came up with slap bass. I remember a R&B PBS special in which Bootsy credits Larry as being the first. That show was part of the History of Rock n Roll series. So the Ugly truth is wrong (couldn't resist saying that) But his point about the Bootsy -> Percy Jones influence was on the spot. later John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:40:46 -0500 From: "Hickson, Robert [PRI]" Subject: Animals of the Crimson Kingdom > From ET473: > Party Animal types rarely connect with what KC has to offer, in my > experience. Oh, I beg to differ. Maybe I run with the wrong crowd, but my friends and I are animals in the truest sense. It is fashionable in the KC crowd to say "you must listen through the music" or "you mustn't violate the moment of the music by drinking this or eating that or smoking the other." And although you must not feed or taunt them, there are plenty of animals in the KC zoo. I see them at every show. I still claim there is nothing quite like giggling during a particularly evil live performance of "Thrack". Sex, sleep, eat, drink, dream, pee, shower, have a cup of coffee then do it all again. But no flash photography, please. Pardon the silliness. Bert. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:29 -0500 From: Gabe_Camacho at usccmail dot lehman dot com (Gabe Camacho) Subject: Slapping misinformation afn3111, calling himself "the ugly truth" wrote: > Stanley Clarke is widely known as the man who "invented" the slap bass > technique which can be found occasionally in Tony Levin's playing. Where/when have you seen Tony slap his bass with KC? I've never seen him do that in KC. I think you're referring to his "touch" technique carried over from the stick (also employed by Adrian, BTW). That's not slapping. The guy who gave us bass string slapping is Larry Graham (1968) about 5 years before Stanley started doing it (1973). During that time, hundreds of other funk players were doing the same slapping (anchored with your fingers, slapped with the side of your thumb, not the gentle "touch" Tony does with all his fingers). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:53:38 -0800 From: Charly Rhoades Subject: WANTED: One Ticket to Mar 22 P2 Show in SF Several previous attempts at buying a ticket to the ProjeKct Two show March 22 at Great American Music Hall in San Francisco have failed -- causing great frustration in and of itself, but even more so now that the gig is SOLD OUT! So now I plaintively ask ETers if anybody has an extra ticket to this show that they would kindly sell me?? Please email me directly at the address below... -- Charly Rhoades Computers are simply a necessary and enjoyable part of HAL Computer Systems life, like food and books. Computers are not every- charly at hal dot com thing, they are just an aspect of everything, and not http://www.hal.com/~charly/ to know this is computer illiteracy. - T. Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:34:42 PST From: "Douglas Robillard" Subject: KC Connections with Dylan Dear ET, While skimming through a biography of Bob Dylan, I came across references to the activities of ISLANDS-era personnel. Apparently, during the mid '70s, Mel Collins and a studio group called Circus (!) rehearsed with Dylan, but no recordings were ever released. In the same time period, Ian Wallace, the ISLANDS drummer, toured with Dylan. In fact, he plays on the "Dylan Live at Budokkhan" album. I'd imagine that working with Robert Fripp is good training; some KC alumni obviously land prestigious gigs. Best, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:48 -0800 From: abhiman at juno dot com Subject: ProjeKct 2 - Southern California hey all, i just wanted to let you know that i've purchased tickets for the March 18th P2 show at the Ventura Theatre and tickets for the March 24th P2 show at the House of Blues, Hollywood. Does anyone else, going to these shows, want to meet before the gig(s)? I know this is short notice and i hope you get this message before Wednesday the 18th. Hope to hear from some of you. shine on, abhi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:13:24 -0500 (EST) From: the ugly truth Subject: Re: Slapping misinformation > Where/when have you seen Tony slap his bass with KC? > I've never seen him do that in KC. Sounds like it several times on Liquid Tension Experiment. Of course, that could be funk fingers or a sample, but I took the easiest guess. Very percussive. BTW I am very impressed with the LTE disk, and would recommend it to anyone, simply on the basis of "Three Minute Warning," a group improv which, while not being very Crimsonish, I find more musical than anything, save "Asbury Park," which KC has improvised. -=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror. --------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:21:22 -0500 From: nightstryke at juno dot com (Brandon C Wu) Subject: Fripp and soul: so what? > And so I pose the question to my fellow fans out there: Does > Fripp have soul? And how would you define it? I would say no. My favorite guitarist is Pink Floyd's David Gilmour; his bluesy, emotional style is at complete odds with Fripp's mathematical precision. But even though Fripp may not play a warm, fuzzy style, he's still a great musician. I don't think "soul" is a requirement for a good guitarist. There is room in the music world for more than one type of quality guitar music. At a risk of going off on a tangent, I'll add this: As for a definition of "soul", one of the things about it is that it probably can't really be defined. But I don't agree that instrumental sloppiness, or fudging, or whatever can be considered an essential element. I think the big thing is feeling - emotion. Fripp's sort of staccato, electric sound doesn't really convey a whole lot of feeling, at least for me (the '80s King Crimson especially; but excepting Soundscapes, which really is a completely different kind of music). On the other hand, the smooth phrasing and wonderful bends of Gilmour's music has that elusive capability of evoking some sort of emotion. Though I don't have a great deal of experience listening to a wide variety of guitarists, I might say the same thing for Clapton, or even Dire Straits' Knopfler. Fripp's style is completely different, but it serves him well - I can't criticize it. Wu http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2064/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:44:01 +1000 From: "Craig" Subject: re: 1973 Atlantic promotional film for LTIA I was wondering if anyone knows where the (KC portion) footage for the King Crimson/Black Oak Arkansas promotional film produced by Atlantic records in 1973 was shot. It contains the common footage of Easy Money, an improvisation & snippets of Lark's Tongues In Aspic Pt II. I couldn't spot anything in the FAQ about it. Is there any other early footage available? (besides the Beat Club footage). Also of possible interest is an old Island sampler LP I found recently (Nice Enough To Eat - IWPS-6, UK pressing) which contains 21st Century Schizoid Man, as well as a Jethro Tull track among others. Kind regards Ketchup is a vegetable! Craig good_king_zog at msn dot com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:09:35 -0800 From: Jeff Kamil Subject: re:Bootsy Collins/Brand X / ET #473 > Stanley Clarke is widely known as the man who "invented" >the slap bass technique which can be found occasionally in Tony Levin's >playing. Actually, the man who is known for inventing the slap bass technique is Larry Graham. If I'm not mistaken, one of the first recorded pieces with the "slap and pluck" was Graham's playing on "Thank You For Letting Me Be Myself" by Sly & the Family Stone. Jeff ("H the H") >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey S. Kamil & Harry the Hat Productions http://www.wco.com/~harryhat <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #474 ********************************