Reply-To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Sender: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Precedence: bulk From: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Subject: Discipline #36 Discipline, Number 36 Wednesday, 22 April 1992 Today's Topics: Fripp's best guitar solo Grand challenge! Favourite solos League of Gents Fripp's Solo's Brain tease [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 10:30:14 EDT From: benson at diamond dot ICD dot Teradyne dot COM (Henry Benson) Subject: Fripp's best guitar solo (for Discipline mailing list) IMHO, Fripp's best solo is in Eno's "Baby's on Fire", from the "Here Come the Warm Jets" album. I remember reading somewhere that he come into the studio in a bad mood, and just cut loose.... Check it out, it's unreal. Henry [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 17:23:20 BST From: Toby Howard Subject: Grand challenge! Wouldn't it be fun to compile a Tony Levin discography? Well, maybe FUN's not the right word, since Tony must have played with everyone at some time or another -- but... I have the feeling there have been some unexpected collaborations now and again. Anyway, if you think it's a ... er .. fun idea too, send me what you know of (artist/album) and I'll keep a note. I'll post what I get to the list soon. Thinking caps on, team! Come on, let's get OBSCURE! Toby [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 16:10:14 CDT From: tmadson at pnet51 dot orb dot mn dot org (Todd Madson) Subject: Favourite solos As far as Fripp solos or guitar parts that I enjoy, here's a few: "Breathless" from _Exposure_ - pure excitement from the get-go, along with Narada Michael Walden's savage drumming. It's like Red reprised, yet a whole 'nother tact. "The Night Watch" from _Starless and Bible Black_ not only Fripp's flawlessly fluid guitar solo, but his gentle, arpegiatted harmonic rhythm playing. It sounds like he's processed through a leslie speaker on that one. Great stuff. "Requiem" - although most of it is pre-meditated bashing, his intro solo, beginning slowly, then building to a flurry of flatpicked scalar blizzards is priceless. His tone is deep, but crisp, and his fuzz-tone was never more keening. "Easter Sunday" from a _Guitar Player_ soundpage This unreleased track had a similar feel to "Requiem", but in a much more peaceful glade. He starts on acoustic, then switches to electric. His solo lines are built from cross-picking, and jagged, tri-tone like bits that build to a melodic and tonal climax. Real nice. Wish this had a CD release. Those soundpages die after a while. "What Kind of Man Reads Playboy" from Summers/Fripp "Bewitched" Fripp's solo here is great - wailing it up over a drum machine/bass groove while Andy drops cool dollops of whipped guitar-synthesizer underneath. Fripps' hot "Les Paul on Fire" tone and go-for-the throat attack (ending with a whammy bar simulation of ridiculous proportions) makes the tune for me. "Begin the Day" from Summers/Fripp "Bewitched" This song along gives me ten reasons to own a 1959 Black Les Paul Custom, triple pick-up. Sweet. His sustained notes (and Andy's nice, chorused rhythm parts) are another must listen. "Larks Tongues in Aspic Part I" from "Larks Tongues in Aspic" When Fripp's guitar, Wetton's bass and David Cross' violin enter from the percussion segue is when all hell breaks loose. Fantastically powerful. The only other album that I've heard this energetic was the live Mahavishnu Orchestra album "Between Nothingness and Eternity". The energy of youth with the intelligence of schooled musicianship. Pure fright! "China" from Summers/Fripp "I advance masked" Great shimmering washes coming from each guitarist having two Roland GR-300 guitar synthesizers tuned one octave apart. How six strings can control many oscillators, and it all turns into a spicy brew of nice prog-stuff. Very eclectic. Most people I've talked to hate this CD (yes, it is out on CD in japan in case you were unaware). "You burn me up, I'm a cigarette" from Exposure The guy has the Chuck Berry thing down cold. "Haden II" from Exposure Tritones! Lots of Tritones! Okay, so there was tons of stuff I left out. I love it all. But these came to mind today. Tomorrow? Who knows. UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, crash}!orbit!pnet51!tmadson ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!tmadson at nosc dot mil INET: tmadson at pnet51 dot orb dot mn dot org [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 16:15:12 PDT From: malcolm at yuba dot wrs dot com (Malcolm Humes) Subject: League of Gents I hope I didn't already mention this before, but this one has been bugging me for years, especially after I recently came across some live tapes of the league of gents. Did any of you see the League of Gentlemen live? I did, two nights in a row in Philadelphia (curiously one of these two dates is left off the tour dates listed on the lp but since I was there both nights I know the lp tour date list is incomplete). When the lp was released it was very very different from what I recalled the group sounded like live. Aside from the obvious difference of the new drummer who joined them for the recording and the end of their tour there was other things like vocals added to some tracks and some electronics that were not at all representative of the band. I guess there must be some story behind the drummer leaving since it appears he was replaced on very short notice near the end of the tour. And I did find the words with Danielle Dax interesting. But I felt the lp really failed to capture what the band was about and that Fripp watered it down with words and processed electronics to make it into something the League of Gents weren't. The band was an instrumental dance band. Hi energy. Some of the tunes they played live had an intensity I don't find represented on the lp. For years I thought this was probably just that my memories of the joy of the shows that made me find the lp lacking. But in recently hearing some live recordings I've reaffirmed my original perception. The lp did not do justice in capturing the band that toured. Did anyone esle see them live and have a similar reaction to the lp when it was released? Has Fripp ever discussed this period in his career in interviews or anything? - malcolm at wrs dot com [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From: Gent-Secret A Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 21:48:54 EDT Subject: Fripp's Solo's Fripp once commented that he felt his best solo work (as he put it, his most elegant lead lines") were the little fill bits on the first couple of Roaches albums. I would have to agree that they probably are the most soaring example of his melodic work. Still, for me, Exposure... David [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 15:54:17 PDT From: rpeck at pure dot com (Ray Peck) Subject: discipline #35 > I've no idea who the California guitar trio who'll be opening for them are. > Does anyone else? Are they former Crafty Guitarists? Information pleasantly > accepted... > David I'm new here, so: "Greetings!" And "How do I get back issues?" Yeah, the CGT is a group of 3 Crafties. I saw them twice a couple months ago. Bert Lams (who wrote my favorite pieces on Show of Hands) is one of them. All three are on Show of Hands, but I can't recall their names right now. . . Paul Something and a Japanese guy. They have a CD out, which only seems to be available directly from them. Contains a mix of Crafty-style originals with Baroque classical pieces. The show was the same, with a bunch of stuff from Show of Hands. At the shows I saw they played with a couple, a guitarist (Udo Something) and the viola player from SoH. Highly recommended for Crafty fans. Perhaps this was covered before, but I've recently seen a Fripp Japanese laserdisk in a catalog I received. It contains Crafties footage (and I don't know what else). $65. Anyone here have it? [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From: dalton at pan dot arc dot nasa dot gov (lizard man) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 22:31:58 -0700 Subject: Brain tease Brain tease: What song has Phil Manzanera, Brian Eno, and Robert Fripp all on it? (Hint: if you rearrange the letters in the name of the song you get the name of a very well-known band which both Eno & Fripp played with) [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] To join this group or have your thoughts in the next issue, please send electronic mail to Toby Howard at the following address: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk The views expressed in discipline are those of the individual authors only.