Errors-To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Reply-To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Sender: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Precedence: bulk From: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Subject: Elephant Talk Digest #271 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 271 Monday, 15 April 1996 Today's Topics: Crimson- Is it ever to early to look ahead? HORDE Re: Damage Re: Gold Discs Re: Michael Brook ITCOTKC vinyl for sale Another "Damage" post! Michael Brook ADDENDUM Manicured Noise Any UK dates in the pipeline? The next KC studio album title? Rain Tree Crow Beware the Envelopes of Yes Gold CD Sound Quality Damage, KC logo Re: Summer Tour Dates Greetings and hello Ghost dance la la la! Chris Speding... Rain/Tree/Crow/Japan Pete Sinfield - Under the Sky THRaKaTTaCK Re: ET #270 (Happy Family/F.C.'s Ian McDonald) Re: Michael Brook (ET # 270) Ian McDonald Administrivia: POSTS: Please send all posts to toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk UNSUB/ADDRESS CHANGES: The DIY List Machine is back! At www.cs.man.ac.uk/aig/staff/toby/et/list/ Visit the *new* ET on the web at www.cs.man.ac.uk/aig/staff/toby/et/ For all administrative issues, such as change of address, withdrawal from the list, etc., send a message to the following address: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk ** If you want to opt for new 'ET BULLETIN' service, where instead of the whole digest you receive a short email announcing the latest edition is out, and where to read it on the web, email me, toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk, saying: "ET BULLETIN -- YES". ** The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest 3.0 package. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:58:35 -0500 (EST) From: smitjw01 at holmes dot ipfw dot indiana dot edu Subject: Crimson- Is it ever to early to look ahead? Recently I've been pondering possible future incarnations of KC. Please don't get the impression that the present KC in any way bores me or my cohorts, quite the contrary, but anything can happen in the world of prog-rock. I find the THRAK lineup easily the most intense and exciting EVER, but if KC is still around in, say 2003 they just MIGHT be: Robert Fripp- Guitar Trey Gunn- Stick Neil Peart- Percussion in just a single trio format. Interesting eh? well what about this? Robert Fripp- Guitar Tony Levin- Stick, bass Trey Gunn- Warr Guitar Adrian Belew- Drums, Voices Adrian COULD do it, but what would Bill think? anyway, try this one on for size... Robert Fripp- Guitar, Melotron Peter Gabriel- Voices, flute Tony Levin- basses Jerry Marotta- Drums essentially just "Peter Gabriel II" in the persona of KC. Or how about the "Nirvana reunion" KC? Robert Fripp- Guitar Adrian Belew- Guitar, Teen Spirit Krist Novoselic- Bass (sort of) David Grohl- Drums If Foo Fighters doesn't work out that is...This is surreal: Robert Fripp- Guitar Tori Amos- Keyboards, Voices Billy Sheehan (anybody remember him?)- Bass Phil Collins- Drums (NOT Vocals!!!) Itzhak Perlman- Violin or the famous "dead band" thing; Robert Fripp- Guitar Jaco Pastorius- Bass Freddie Mercury- Voices, Piano John Bonham- Drums John Lennon- Rhythm guitar, Voice This may be the lamest thing you've ever read, but if you have any ideas, email them to me (NOT Toby). I'd be interested, really! Jason Smith AKA Cure'd'Ars ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:49:12 -0400 From: matottls at craft dot camp dot clarkson dot edu (Loren S. Matott) Subject: HORDE I saw the list of HORDE dates, and I am aware that Crimson will be playing HORDE but does anyone know exactly which dates Crimson will play? Alot of the performers from previous HORDE tours only played a few select venues. Specifically, I was wondering about the NY shows. Also, HORDE has gotten the official MTV stamp of complete overexposure recently (due to Blues Traveler IMO) so does this mean that RF & co. are attempting to (shudder) sell out? I think KC is obscure enough that people could mistake them for an up and coming alterna-sensation. I have heard people talking about how they are into this 'new' band King Crimson. Kurt Loder on MTV news praised Red and called in 'a seminal work' or something to that effect. What will happen to this list if it is flooded with a bunch of newbie posts? well it's goodbye. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:03:29 -0400 From: Rob Martino Subject: Re: Damage I too will have to pipe in and say that "Damage" is quite an impressive performance. However, it did take a while. I did not like this CD much upon first listen, as one critic on rec.music.progressive pointed out it almost sounded like Depeche Mode, and I too felt it had sort of a synth "pop" rather than "progressive" feel at first. I think I was being too closed minded though and expecting something more like King Crimson. However upon further listenings the depth and maturity of the music becomes apparent, and gets better over time. Wonderful sonic textures, great soloing, real smooth and powerful. Great sound quality too. I like it much better than The First Day actually, which tends to meander on for too long. The versions of the same songs on Damage make the same statements in a more concise manner and has a greater variety of songs. Plus it isn't often you have some good Stick bass lines on a CD to learn to play! Rob Martino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:51:49 -0700 (MST) From: signals at IMAP1 dot ASU dot EDU Subject: Re: Gold Discs Someone mentioned the gold disc of Damage, and a reply came that the gold disc is more of a gimmick than a sound improvement. Well . . . that actually depends on the quality of the sound system you are listening on. Gold discs do indeed improve reflectivity because the gold molecules are smaller than aluminum molecules, thereby reducing refraction. What you get in return is a warmer, fuller sound. But if you have a low quality stereo, you will not be able to tell the difference. Believe me, there IS a big difference in sound quality. Tom J ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Etcetera is my worst enemy--Mike Patton Ma maooba goo goo ga ga--Chuck Mosley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:22:56 -0700 (MST) From: signals at IMAP1 dot ASU dot EDU Subject: Re: Michael Brook First question: What is the infinite guitar? From what I have read (and Brook is pretty secretive about his invention), it is simply a guitar with some kind of electronics hooked up which allow for almost infinite sustain (hence the name.) He supposedly can just put his finger on the string and it will ring out for a long period of time. But that's all I know. Onward to something I can talk about with authority: ;-) Buy any of his albums, they are all beautiful. I first bought Cobalt Blue and loved it, then I found Live At The Aquarium, and love it even more. Then I found Shona, and was disappointed with the sound quality (it sounds like an audience recorded live album, the sound is a bit muffled, too bad) but the performance is great. I also own and love the album he did with U. Srinivas, Dream, and the newest Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn, Night Song. Those both are on the Realworld label, and both are full-on world music, but so unbelievably beautiful. Highly recommended. Also, if anyone out there can tell me if they have ever seen the album he and Brian Eno collaborated on, I would be highly appreciative. Later, Tom J ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:12:15 -0500 (EST) From: "M. S. AtKisson" Subject: ITCOTKC vinyl for sale A band-mate asked me to post that he has a half-speed master version of In the Court for sale. It has never been played. He'd prefer to sell it to someone in the Boston area, so it can be hand-delivered. Please e-mail me if you're interested. Peg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 22:48:51 EDT From: Peter Subject: Another "Damage" post! I've been listening to this CD constantly since I found it (at Lechmere???) last week, and the repeated listenings as well as the recent messages about the album have gotten me very curious about who's doing what (I know, not this game again). I had assumed (totally incorrectly) that Trey Gunn was playing what would usually be done by the bass player, Michael Brook was doing atmospheric- type droney stuff, and David Sylvian basically did a Bono (holding a guitar but not actually playing anything, as the U2 vocalist was prone to do in the old "Rattle and Hum" days), with Mr. Fripp doing all the wild and crazy guitar madness. This is obviously not so. Someone please clarify this!!! PETER SHINDLER HTTP://WWW.UCC.UCONN.EDU/~PES94001 Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:46:11 -0700 (MST) From: signals at IMAP1 dot ASU dot EDU Subject: Michael Brook ADDENDUM Sorry, I forgot the whole point of answering anyone's question about Brook: what's he like? His music is most easily compared to Fripp's soundscapes, if Fripp had a rhythm track going. Brook's sound is a bit more aggressive, as the guitar takes on a more rhythmic role than it does in Fripp's work. It basically defies description, but it does have a bit of a world-influence, tho not as much as with his collaborations with Kahn and Srinivas. I highly recommend them to anyon who is a fan of soundscapes. This music is like the next step for Fripp's soundscapes. Good stuff. Honestly now, Later! Tom J ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:25:23 -0500 From: rhino at dbtech dot net (Rob Murphree) Subject: Manicured Noise Hey guys! I think this may be my very first post... so here goes. I was in East Alabama this week and found a surreal image. A very cool record store that specialized in import and ('scuze the word)... boots, in the middle of "nowhere Alabama". Anyway, I found the Japanese version of "Acoustic Belew" as well as one I havn't seen mentioned here. It was a live Crimson show on CD called, "Manicured Noise" and was a very nice package. From the list of songs, it was from the recent Thrak tour and although I didn't have the cash or credit cards on me, I was unable to purchase it. Sorry I don't have a complete list of songs but I'm sure they'd be happy to run down the tracks for you. (Southern hospitality) If anyone is interested, here is the address of the store: Slip Disc 5730 McClellan Blvd. Anniston, AL 36203 (205) 820-8005 Just in case you're are interested. Come visit the adrian belew home page at http://web.dbtech.net/~rhino rhino at dbtech dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:45:03 +0100 From: Tony Brown Subject: Any UK dates in the pipeline? Hello all Does anyone know if there's any danger of some Crimson dates here in Dear Old Blighty?. I seem to remember that KC have toured and missed out the UK before - not that I blame them, the music scene here being so blinkered. And one thing chaps, if you're at the planning stage for UK gigs.....PLEASE DON'T DO THE ALBERT HALL. The acoustics in there just don't suit you!. Oh, and by the way, if KC were ever to look for an 'accomplished' vocalist, surely there's really only one candidate - the VROOM-voiced Mr Peter Hammill. I present Exposure as exhibit A. A thought's just occured to me. If KC are going to do a live album of the next tour, they could get RF (...a funny thing happened to me on the way to the latest Crafty Guitar workshop....) to crack jokes inbetween all the songs (or perhaps RF and AB to do a double-act...."I say I say, my guitar's in new standard tuning....Then how does it smell?.....Phrygian!") and call it Boom Boom!. Or perhaps not. Cheers Tony ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 06:23:55 +0000 From: khoffman at giantfood dot com (Kurt Hoffman) If you look at the front cover of 'Lizard' you will have your answer- the illustration corresponding to "Happy Family" bears more than a passing resemblence to the Fab Four, and the line "Jonah caustic, Jude so sweet" not only is probably the best in-a-nutshell summation of the flavors of the important part of the FF,but also alludes to "Nah, nah nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey Jude". As to Ian McDonald in Fairport, I believe that it is him, but I support this belief primarily because Judy Dyble, who was the female vocalist on the first Fairport album (later replaced by Sandy Denny) was also the woman who did the vocals on "I talk to the wind" on Young Persons Guide... In the worthless wierd marriage department- ever notice how Lenny Kravitz song "Let love rule" sounds like Boz circa-'Earthbound' singing "Hey Jude" there at the end (before the organ-bass-sax outro? Anyway, Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:05:35 -0400 From: MarkDAshby at aol dot com Subject: The next KC studio album title? My brother and I were discussing this on a car trip recently. Seeing as how KC has been choosing rather onomatopoeic words for titles lately (VROOOM, THRAK, B'BOOM, even B'Bish and Thrum), might they continue this after THRAK ATTACK? Here are some thoughts: SQUISH BAM (you could even have BAM BAM and BAM BAM Coda) SPLAT (my personal favorite) ZING WHOOSH BUZZ CRUNCH ZAP THWOCK THUMP BIFF (Batman reference) GURGLE KERSPLASH CRASH! BOOM! BANG! (whoops, Roxette beat 'em to the punch) Hey, a little levity never hurt anybody. To whoever it was that said he had "Happy Family, one hand clap, four went on but none came back" in his head ...... thanks a lot, pal! Now I can't get to sleep! >:^> Side note: What's the cost of Tony Levin's WORLD DIARY from Papa Bear Records? I've been meaning to order it forever now. Private e-mail if you can help. Enough banter, bicker, brouhaha for now ... -MDA ------------------------------ From: SteveSmith at kochint dot com Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 08:49:22 PDT Subject: Rain Tree Crow >it has 2 songs from a group in which DS obviously sang in. The >group is >called Rain Tree Crow (i believe). I have never seen that >album at any >store, catologe or on one of those computer lists that they >have at some >music stores. Does anyone have any info on this album. and is >it still in >print. RAIN TREE CROW - Rain Tree Crow (5/91) Virgin V21S-86252 This was a 1991 reunion of four original members of Japan - without the actual name to raise everyone's expectations. It featured David Sylvian, Mick Karn, Steve Jansen and Richard Barbieri (I may have missed the first names of the last two). I seem to remember that instead of actually issuing this domestically, CEMA in the U.S. simply imported the Canadian Virgin release. Leastaways, that's how mine looks. It's still listed in the Spring 1996 Schwann Spectrum catalog, but that isn't always 100% accurate. I also vaguely remember reading an interview with Mick Karn (about a year ago in the Wire) that personality conflicts amongst the band (or, more specifically, between Sylvian and the other three) could not be resolved after all. The latter three have continued to work together, and Karn has also worked with David Torn lately (see in particular "Cloud About Mercury" on the ECM label, with Mark Isham on trumpet and keys and Bill Bruford his own bad self on drums). For what it's worth, "Rain Tree Crow" is a beautiful, evocative, low key album. Anyone familiar with David Sylvian's work probably knows what to expect. There are some really striking textures created, for instance, when Karn plays bass clarinet. "Every Colour You Are" on the Sylvian-Fripp "Damage" album originated on "RTC." Finally, this is probably fairly well known, but for those just getting acquainted with Sylvian's work, I strongly recommend "Gone to Earth" (1981, Virgin), source of several more "Damage" tracks and notable for including excellent and highly contrasted work by both Fripp and Bill Nelson. Steve Smith SteveSmith at kochint dot com ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 1996 09:02:26 -0500 From: "Jonathan Block" Subject: Beware the Envelopes of Yes I just received a strange CD of Peter Sinfield called the Envelopes of Yesterday. If you see it, don't believe the track listing. The CD starts out with two Roy Harper tunes, then there is a five minute Sinfield interview. After that there are three live Sinfield tracks: a 30-second duet with Mel Collins, Still with Greg Lake on vocals, and Night People. Then comes a new one on me. What ends up as a 15-minute Earthbound-like jam complete with an Ian Wallace drum solo starts out as a semi-structured tune built around parts of Lark's Tongues Part 1 and Lament! Interesting if you want to hear what Boz sounds like playing LT pt. 1 or Mel Collins blowing over Lament. Either way it doesn't do much for me. Anyone interested in this CD? Contact me at jblock at gartner dot com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:39:35 -0400 From: "Gordon Emory Anderson" Subject: Gold CD Sound Quality Gideon and Dale have commented on possible sound quality of gold CDs. In theory, gold has much higher reflectivity than other materials that may be used for CDs, so that (in theory) the CD-player optical detection system has a stronger signal to work with, and will make fewer mistakes. In reality, it seems to be agreed that most of the time gold CD sound quality is better than that of standard CDs, but only marginally so. Such differences can normally only be heard on excellent qualityt equipment. Sometimes, however, special care is taken in the mastering process for some gold CDs that is morwe important than the material itself. An issue that is now becoming controversial is "double and quadruple speed mastering" of some discount and club CDs. Many in the industry are coming to feel that such fast mastering may increase jitter, thereby quickly degrading sound. Perhaps of even more importance is when an analog master tape is digitally remastered: this process cannot be reduced to the mere pressing of a button: choices must be made than can critically effect the sound. For instance, compare the older CD of "Another Green World" (by Eno, of course) with the same tracks from the Eno boxed set, which have been remastered using the "Sony Super Bit Mapping". The difference is not huge, but certainly noticeable, and (for me) the difference between listenability and squeeky, glassy harshness (the SONY SBM sounds much better). If we combine this kind of care early in the production sequence with a gold CD, the result can be extremely pleasing--a classic audiophile example is the Folk Singer CD, by Muddy Waters. Some digi-phobes say this is one CD that sounds about as good as vinyl. -Emory. ------------------------------ From: jmccabe at portage1 dot portup dot com (Jim McCabe) Subject: Damage, KC logo Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:01:55 GMT Gordon Emory Anderson wrote: >This last weekend I took the time to listen through all of Damage. Now >perhaps I've been using the scroll bar too much, but I don't remember >reading anyone mentioning that this record has some of Fripp's best work of >his entire career. Although Sylvian's voice gets a little monotonous, >Fripp is totally wailing. If one had to buy a single record to find out >what Fripp is capable of, this would be it. It's exactly this kind of >playing that I have missed in the last tour of KC. The whole record has >brilliant lines and solos. When I first read this, I thought it was just the ramblings of a lunatic fan. But then I heard "Damage" this week and have to agree, it is amazing! On other albums, there are times when Fripp is so otherworldly and fantastic, and then other times when I think, "okay Bob, you score an A+ for effort and originality, but a D- for emotional impression." But "Damage" is so immensely BEAUTIFUL. One thing that disappoints me about "B'Boom" is that the songs are so similar to their studio versions, but on "Damage" they change things around quite a bit and take songs to new heights. Now my problem is that I'd like to buy my own copy of "Damage", but I can't find a store that sells it, even on the net. Any tips? Any sellers on this list? wrote: >My personal opinion on the meaning of the THRAK symbol is that it is >representitive of the Double-trio I perceive it as a backwards K connected to a C: K K C K K C KKC K K C K K C Jim jmccabe at mail dot portup dot com - http://www.portup.com/~jmccabe ------------------------------ From: u01fjt at abdn dot ac dot uk Subject: Re: Summer Tour Dates Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 20:05:47 +0100 (BST) I notice that at present there appears to be a distinct lack of appearances in the UK over the Summer. Is there something I don't know? Are they yet to be announced or is ir simply time to shuffle off this mortal coil? Anyone with any forbidden knowledge out there please enlighten us. Cheers Frank. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:05:52 -0400 From: DLiv01 at aol dot com Subject: Greetings and hello This is my first posting on Elephant Talk. I just started recieving the newsletter and wanted to read it for a while before I posted so that I would not repeat any previously talked about topics. To begin, I would like to respond to the individual who questioned the meaning of the title Thela Hun Ginjeet; if you unscramble the letters, it spells out heat in the jungle. I found this in a book about Fripp by Eric Tamm. I just wanted to share this. Also, with so much recent talk about Belew's recent orchestral release, I noticed Adrian making piano sounds on his guitar at the Crimp show in Atlanta. I guess he was giving us a sneak preview of what was to come. Finally, I have not heard much mention of the Great Deciever box set. Has anyone wondered why the song Doctor Diamond was not released on a KC album? I think it is a great song. Well this is enough for now, I would love to hear some responses. D.L. All of you know that the girls on the road are like apples we stole in our youth. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 19:40:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "NAME \"angus low\"" <3DR3LOWA at vms dot csd dot mu dot edu> Subject: Ghost dance la la la! Hello everyone!! I had a quick post regarding the re-release of the cd I have seen called Ghost Dance (Piano 502) from Incus Records..I have it committed to memory since having read it recently and not finding it since I live in Milwaukee--I am wondering if anyone has any info on how to order it on cd--maybe over the internet or even through someone if I pay them to buy the CD-- I have been getting a lot of cool stuff lately so bravo the internet: Concertos and symphonies of Starvinsky --the ebony Concerto--sounds a bit like something off of Lizard!!-- and really great people out there willing to actually go out and purchase records for those less fortunate of us who live in Milwaukee!! ---I think I am the only Crim-head who has a copy of Buddy Rich's "the Roar of '74" with Tony Levin on Bass!! -- and countless other weird rarities--I sort of disagree with Bruford when he said that the internet is for people who have too much time for nonsense---Sheesh! All this time, I thought the guy would be pro-computer ( ahem, simmons!!)--oh well....back to Stravinsky Also..if anyone has info on Ghost Dance, please email me direct so as not to clutter the Elephant's trunk!! thanks, Colin ------------------------------ From: Next Wave Festival Subject: Chris Speding... Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:55 AEST Chris Speding, I think was/is a British guitarist. Mostly sessions. Lots of pop music. Very clean r'n'r sound. Refused to use effects (or said 'e did!). I know him from his guitar playing on Nick Mason's (drums) "Fictitious Sports" with Robert Wyatt (vox), Steve Swallow (bass) and Carla Bley (keys). Which is, by the way, a very fine band indeed. Cheers, Zane. nextwave at peg dot apc dot org Next Wave Festival Inc 31 Victoria St Fitzroy 3065 Tel:+61 3 9417 7544 Fax:+61 3 9417 7481 ------------------------------ From: Next Wave Festival Subject: Rain/Tree/Crow/Japan Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:56 AEST RAIN TREE CROW Recorded 1989/90 is really (could be thought of as) a re-formation of the band Japan under another name. It is on Virgin records, I have a casstte of it - TCV 2659. David Sylvian, Mick Karn, Steve Jansen, Richard Barbieri. With help from Michael Brook, Bill Nelson & others. It grows on you. Sounds a lot like Japan and is mostly group improvisation and treatments in the mix. Regards, Zane. nextwave at peg dot apc dot org Next Wave Festival Inc 31 Victoria St Fitzroy 3065 Tel:+61 3 9417 7544 Fax:+61 3 9417 7481 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 96 18:04 BST-1 From: asmithi at cix dot compulink dot co dot uk (Andrew Smith) Subject: Pete Sinfield - Under the Sky In a local bookshop, I've just found (and bought) a signed volume of Pete Sinfield's poetry, published in 1974 and containing pretty much all his King Crimson lyrics, along with some of his other work (which IMHO is not as good) and a number of illustrations by someone called Julia Fryer. Has anyone else heard of this book, and is it simply a curio or a real rarity (ie should I just put it on my bookshelf (next to the Eric Tamm book!) or take _really good_ care of it)? Cheers Andrew Smith The gravel pit lake; Gulls perch on rusted cranes; Fishermen asleep. - Pete Sinfield ------------------------------ From: Justin Weinberg Subject: THRaKaTTaCK Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 17:41:45 -0400 (EDT) So, ThrakAttack is due out in late June. That's good to hear, but what's on it? All I know is that it contains some imporvised material. Is it a live recording? Is it just 10 versions of Thrak? Can anyone out there give us fans some more information (maybe Mark Perry? or Tony Levin?)? Thanks in advance, Justin Weinberg jrweinb at husc dot harvard dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 23:56:48 +0100 From: rolando at system dot abacom dot it (Rolando Michelazzi) Subject: Re: ET #270 (Happy Family/F.C.'s Ian McDonald) on Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Andrew Suber wrote: >Is it just me or is the song "Happy Family" on "Lizard" about the Beatles? YES. The "Fab Four" are also pictured on the front cover (behind the "I" of Crimson). >Is the Ian McDonald on the Fairport Convention's self titled album the >original >clarinetist/saxophonist/etc. in KC? NO. The real name of the Fairport member is Ian MacDonald (Mac, not Mc). After leaving Fairport Convention he changed his name to Ian Matthews and formed the band "Matthews' Southern Comfort". He has also released several solo albums. Ciao. Rolando. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 20:46:12 -0500 From: Margus Laidre Subject: Re: Michael Brook (ET # 270) Hi to everybody! In ET #270 Matt asked about M Brooks solo works. Here follows some albums which might be of interest. But first small correction Michael Brook does not appear on "The First Day" but only on "Damage". His solo production is not so big: * "Hybrid" - album 1985 together with Brian Eno + Daniel Lanois (good ambient piece) * "Cobalt Blue" - album 1992 (featuring Eno brothers & D Lanois among others, regarded by many as his best work * "Shona" - live album 1995, recorded during Lanzarote Music Festival 1989, contains material from later "Cobalt Blue" (only 4 tracks but 3 of them from 8 to 14 min long) * "Dream" - album 1995 together with Indian mandolin player U. Srinivas. Dark meditations of Eastern and Western ambient music. Featuring Trey Gunn on the first track "Dance" (13.51 min). For me prabably the best M Brooks album, but I had to go through some 15 listenings There are some few collaboration works too. To my mind the live sound on "B'BOOM" is much better than on "Damage", no doubt! Best regards, Margus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:31:29 +0100 From: bigbang at alpes-net dot fr (A. Leroy) Subject: Ian McDonald Hi, Actually, Ian McDonald is the real name of Ian Matthews, who on later albums by Fairport Convention was credited under that name. it sure is a strange coincidence that Judy Dyble performed with two different Ian McDonald's at about the same time. 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Puchalik) Hello... (I hate it when people open their ET messages with "Hello Crimheads!!" or something like that.) I was just reading through the latest ET, and I noticed a few things: 1) There seems to be some contention as to whether or not Fripp still kicks as much ass as we all know he used to. It occurs to me that Fripp absolutey does. Regardless of how much or how little he played on "Damage," what he DID do was wall-paper shredding to an extreme. I don't care what ANYONE else says, Fripp, in my mind, is still the most undoubtedly brilliant and greatest guitarist around today. The End. 2) This KC at H.O.R.D.E. thing...I'm not quite sure what to make of this. It seems, IMHO, to be a bit of a sell-out move. However, the 80s Crimso never sold out, and I doubt that Messrs. Gunn and Mastelotto carry enough weight to lead the band on a drive for popularity. This distressed me grievously when I first herad it, if only because the idea of Joan Osbourne and King Crimson sharing a bill makes me cringe. In an article surrounding the release of THRAK and the subsequent shows at the Town Hall in NYC, a local newspaper (I live in NJ) interviewed Tony Levin. When asked about the chances of "a cross-over hit," Tony simply responded that he thought King Crimson was better off "lurking on the edge of the musicindustry" I personally support this HIGHLY, and I would prefer life if my KC shows could remain free of some of the people who would attend a H.O.R.D.E. show. Christ, my ROOMATE listens to Dave Matthews! I could not STAND it if anyone LIKE him was ever present in a King Crimson audience. Regardless, I will see them at H.O.R.D.E., and I will enjoy it as much as I have any other show. Okay, I am off the soapbox now. Another thing that come up was commentary about how difficult it is to find "Damage." I don't know how long I've had it, but it was long enough to fall totally in love with it, then forget it for a couple months, and then fall in love with it all over again. I remember buying it right on the heels of buying "The Essential Fripp & Eno" and thinking that it would be along the same lines as that. Wow. It remains to this day one of my ALL-time favourite CD purchases and possibly my favourite cruising music period. There is nothing in this world like "Darshan" at night in the rain driving on the Palisades Parkway. Allright, this hasd been too long already, so thanks for reading! Rob Puchalik ------------------------------ End of Elephant-Talk Digest #271 ********************************