Reply-To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Sender: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Precedence: bulk From: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk To: toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk Subject: Elephant Talk #204 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 204, Friday, 30 June 1995 Today's Topic: Club Wired conference transcript [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] POSTS: Please send all posts to toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk ARCHIVES: The ET archives are: WWW: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/aig/staff/toby/elephant-talk.html FTP: The Americas: ftp.qualcomm.com, in /pub/et FTP: Rest of world: ftp.cs.man.ac.uk, in /pub/toby/elephant-talk EMAIL: Send "index elephant-talk" to listserv at arastar dot com [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Thanks to Alan Fossen for capturing this transcript of the Crimson conference on Club Wired (http://www.hotwired.com/Piazza/Club/) on Monday 26 June. Enjoy. Well, read it anyway. This must be the LEAST EFFECTIVE form of communication yet invented... :-) Toby ****************************** [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: Hello everyone - the band is here - minus Robert, but everyone else is here [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: 1 [AMPHITHEATER] malium asks: if the band is ready, could adrian comment on the piano improv last night? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (from Ade) both Robt and I have Roland GR1 guit. synths, which enable us to sound like pianinsts. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: /L [AMPHITHEATER] agharta asks: Is KC going to play shows in the Southeast? How about a show at Memorial Hall at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We'll be touring in the us again in November, after Japan, and I think we'll play th eSouth and Southeast. The agent is currently booking that stuff. [AMPHITHEATER] klinge asks: Any future for Earthworks, Bill? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: A Golden Future (b.b.) [AMPHITHEATER] shamino asks: In Marine 475, what is the significance of the particular numbers and words that are recited under the music? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Robt. said it had to do fucked up the English Stock Mkt last year. (P.M.) [AMPHITHEATER] mwz asks: Adrian, what are your plans for after the KC tour? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I've already finished my 1st inst. album in 10 yrs / called "the guitar as orchestra" and will now begin the solo album for my summer vacation (A.B.) (typed badly by t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] laark asks: Any plans to come back to Canada (we miss you!)? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (faq) We don't know where the Nov. tour will take us - it's being booked, but by an agency, not us. I believe we'll make a U.S. sweep in Nov, then Europe in Feb. [AMPHITHEATER] bilsabab asks: I know Tony Levin has an email adress...who else in the band is the next to get one? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Trey is on Compuserve (t.) [AMPHITHEATER] agharta asks: Will we see more albums from this lineup soon? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: There's a live from Argentina in the can. (P.M.) [AMPHITHEATER] laark asks: Mr. Belew, how many Zappa albums were ypu on and what were theyou on and what were they? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Sheik yer booty, Baby Snakes, You can't do that on Stage Anymore, vol.s 1, 6. (a.b.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (from t.l.) I don't have any dissatisfaction with anything in the band .... wait while I ask trey ... he's happy too. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: No dinosaurs here (tl) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We adat every night. (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (from t.l.) I think Bill gets his clothes from the homeless. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: /A [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: R19 [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: 9 [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: You're Welcome (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] klinge asks: What's the future of polyrhythms in pop? Do you guys see your influence in other bands? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Ablolutely None (b.b.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (from t.l.) yes he does, and it always works. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: The walrus was ME (a.b.) [AMPHITHEATER] shozosan asks: Please come to Japan this year! [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We'll be in Japan in October. Hope to see you . [AMPHITHEATER] dhyman asks: adrean told a friend of mine that trey has quite a malodorous air about him. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I never said that! I only said I love his aftershave [AMPHITHEATER] gizard asks: any collaborations in the works with Keith Tippet? He's so incredible. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (from P.M.) The bad odor is Bill's jacket. [AMPHITHEATER] tiwalters asks: What happened during "Red" last night? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (A.B.) Bill played a fill noone could follow! [AMPHITHEATER] rogoff asks: Tony- what tuning do you use on your Chapman Stick? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Standard tuning in the bass half, top part tuned in 4ths. But, I retune for Eleph. Talk, and occasionally for other pieces. [AMPHITHEATER] kaptainkarrot asks: Does the WArr guitar have a different tuning than the stick? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Ted Hawkins was a further departuner (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: /R [AMPHITHEATER] jhood asks: what does a day on the road consist of for you guys? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Eat, Sleep, Drink, Dream. (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] dadslax asks: I love "Thrak," but I'm fairly OBSESSED with "The Great Deceiver." My question is: has the band listened to these discs much as "inspiration" for the current live dynamic? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: No, we don't listen to any of that. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We play the good ones (t.g.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Yo Yo Ma (t.g. [AMPHITHEATER] dhyman asks: anybody still here? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We think so. [AMPHITHEATER] klinge asks: Tony, Trey, do you find the stick lacking in any way that might make you migrate to some other instrument in the future in the way you moved to the stick? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We're thinking of migrating to Argentina (t.g. & t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] dadslax asks: why the hell not??? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Why the hell?? [AMPHITHEATER] malium asks: any talk of a live release from this end of the tour? The other box sets? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We ADAT all the shows. No current plans for use of this stuff, but ... someday.... [AMPHITHEATER] amf asks: Toby Howard (Elephant Talk Listserver) says hi. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Hi toby. [AMPHITHEATER] laark asks: Do any of you guys subscribe to the mag "Elephant Talk" ?? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Yes, Trey and tony get it. (but we don't read it (t.g.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: .L [AMPHITHEATER] gizard asks: Still living down dere by Lake Geneva Hey Adrian? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I moved to Nashville a year ago. a.b. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / [AMPHITHEATER] dhyman asks: will adrean's daughter do any suprise gigs w/ the band? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Absolutley not [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: A43 [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: well, same as you, checked it out, liked it, use it a lot. Sorry we're not answering these questions faster - the method we see them is a bit slow. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: R [AMPHITHEATER] shamino asks: Adrian. I've seen you perform solo in New Jersey a number of times. But now I'm living in Washington DC. Any plans to play there after KC finishes touring? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I have no plans to tour outside of K.C. anytime soon.a.b. [AMPHITHEATER] klinge asks: Tony, World Diary is excellent. Any plans for similar projects? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Nope - like all of us, I'm pretty buly with the k.c. tour, and we'll be recording next year. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: R [AMPHITHEATER] agharta asks: What exactly is Trey Gunn playing? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (t.l.) right now, he's playing with himself!! [AMPHITHEATER] malium asks: I wonder if Bill might comment on his working relationship with Jamie [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: (t.g.) the Warr Guitar. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: 0 [AMPHITHEATER] sharkey2 asks: Thrak and Vroom cd's seem to be so totally outdone by your live performances. Is there any way to better catch the rich sound and great musicianship of your live shows in your recorded cd's? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: t.g. No. a.b. If you had a p.a. in your living room, Thrak would sound great. (p,m.) hire George Glossop, turn up your stereo. (t.l.) we're (faq) recording all the shows on ADAT (faq) for future use. [AMPHITHEATER] wsjenks asks: There has been a lot of talk on "Elephant Talk" about crowd noise. How about some comments from you guys, the performers? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Actually, we don't notice it much, but we've read the complaints on E. Talk. (t.l.) I like it (a.b.) They're geekin/ on the athletics (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] mblakele asks: Why so few songs from Beat or ToaPP on this tour? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We are adding songs from Beat and 3 of a p.p. on the next leg of touring. [AMPHITHEATER] wsjenks asks: It sounds as if you guys plan to do another (studio) album some time in the future. Will there be more of an emphasis on the "double trio" [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: don't know until we do it [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / -- Logged on channel 01: jeremyo/jeremyo [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: a48 [AMPHITHEATER] gabrielr asks: Why isn't there more improvising? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Well, we feel there is a lot of improvising in the show. (t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: r40 [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: 1 [AMPHITHEATER] kaptainkarrot asks: Was the briek Warr/Stick duet I saw live in Portland excerpted from "internet"? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: No, that was improvisation! (t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] gabrielr asks: Adrian... What is the city by the sun? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Orlando Florida, where I met my wife. (a.b.) [AMPHITHEATER] mozonash asks: As a musician (but not a drummer), I really enjoyed Bruford's "When in Doubt, Roll! Any plans for another book on your thoughts and music these days? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I hate that book - the publishers made me do it. (this reply is from the band, but B.b. seems not to be here ... that's why we answered for him!) [AMPHITHEATER] tomwhore asks: To the band in General...Who makes the rest of the band crack on on stage the most...and why? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We don't take Crack on stage or anywhere else. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: r [AMPHITHEATER] sharkey2 asks: Any chance of having Brian Eno produce your next CD? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We';re producing his next record (t.g. ):0 [AMPHITHEATER] xboglegx asks: What's up with people yelling "BRUFFOOORDDD!!!" all the time at concerts? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Idol worship (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: A63 [AMPHITHEATER] klinge asks: How do you come up with weird time signatures? Do you find yourself trying ones just because you never did it, or does it all just groove for you? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: /A [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: 63 [AMPHITHEATER] kreth asks: Would you like people to actually dance at your shows? Can you get rid of the chairs? People should move, right? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: the time signatures just happen - a product of all of us. (t.l.) Who decided 4/4 was the norm? (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / [AMPHITHEATER] gabrielr asks: Why doesn't the rest of the band play in the dark like R.F.? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I'm afraid!(t.g.) Because we paid the lighting designer a lot of money (p.m.) Robert's not THERE!! (t.g.) [AMPHITHEATER] mblakele asks: Any truth to the rumor that you'll have Phish open for the next tour? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I'd love it! (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: A [AMPHITHEATER] gabrielr asks: What happened to "Internet"? Did it die a slow death? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Internet" didn't make it onto the record, that's all. [AMPHITHEATER] klims asks: what are the final (and only) lyrics in the mincer?? I've been dying to know... [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: 64 [AMPHITHEATER] alijon asks: Do you ever play small clubs unannounced ontour? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Yes, but nobody came! (t.g.) [AMPHITHEATER] spewbabe asks: Does the band get some of it's deeper thoughts from aligning Levin's head with a mirror and gazing into the infinity of reflections therein? :) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: er.... what? (t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] tobyhoward asks: oderator -- forgive garble: link to U.K. *incred* slow. How did you feel the London gigs comapre with those you're doing now? All reviwed in minute detail in E.T. ! :-) [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We didn't think the london shows were too great -- Much better now. (t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] thrbrain asks: Adrian, what exactly is strange spaghetti" and what sort of sauce would you recommend with that? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Pestlotto is nice (t.l.) [AMPHITHEATER] felagund asks: Here's a fairly trivial q: I've What's the line after "thela hun ginjeet"? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: the next few lines are just made up words. (a.b.) [AMPHITHEATER] xboglegx asks: GIve Robert a big wet kiss for me [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: No thanks. (p.m.) [AMPHITHEATER] mwz asks: Do any of you get the urge to shine a flahlight on RObert during the live shows? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Occasionally. [AMPHITHEATER] alindsay asks: Pestlotto is an impressive drummer, too. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Ever heard of Jerry Marinara? [AMPHITHEATER] fizzbin asks: Tony, will you be insensed if other bass players appear with "Funk Finger" type apparatuses (apparati?) ? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: I'll only be incensed if they appear with Fizzbin's on their fingers. [AMPHITHEATER] tomwhore asks: If God and Frip had a fight, who would win? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: That'''s easy, Ditka. [AMPHITHEATER] jhood asks: who in the band does the best impersonation of RF? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Rf. [AMPHITHEATER] sharkey2 asks: Do you all still get along with Robert, and vice versa? I'd hate to see this band die again. [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: Buck Henry [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: / [AMPHITHEATER] rickhap asks: do you know what a "prince rupert" drop is? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: No, what? [AMPHITHEATER] klinge asks: If you add any more members to the band, will you change the name to he Greatful Dead? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: We;'ll call it Star Trek [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: Pat Mastellotto asks if there is anyone who can bring a black XL shirt with white polka dots to the Los Angeles or San Diego gigs. How about it, folks? [AMPHITHEATER] bilsabab asks: Okay, who wants donuts?? [AMPHITHEATER] guestspeaker/King Crimson: they tell me we're going. Nice chatting. t.l. [AMPHITHEATER] kreth/Will Kreth: They've got to go, folks. Say thanks and goodbye! 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