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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 00:04:07 +0800
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Subject: Elephant-talk digest v95 #175




                E L E P H A N T    T A L K

         The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp
               and King Crimson enthusiasts

            Number 175, Monday, 27 March 1995

Today's Topics:

                   Robert on Compuserve

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 12:15:30 BST
From: Toby Howard <toby at cs dot man dot ac dot uk>
Subject: Robert on Compuserve

I would to thank ET readers Drew Nisbett, Neil J. Cavanagh and Michael
Naughton, who were kind enough to capture and send to ET the full
transcript of Robert's on-line conference last week, held in the CompuServe
Convention Center on 23 March, 1995.

Here it is. I've taken the liberty of editing out the discussion before and
after the interview itself, but I shall be placing the entire transcript on
the ftp site for those who wish to see the whole unedited thing. Also, I've
altered the textual format a little to make who says what, when, a little
clearer. The term "ga" appears a lot, and having never seen one of these
conferences before, I didn't know what it meant -- but I would guess "go
ahead" as the most likely!

Toby

% The King Crimson conference is beginning
  Your moderator is Glenn-Moderator   (6)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Virgin Records and the Recording Industry
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Forum of CompuServe welcome you to an evening
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) with King Crimson.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) My name is Glenn Smith, Sysop for the
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Recording Industry Forum, and I'll be
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) your moderator tonight.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Robert Fripp, founding member of the band,
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) is here to field your questions about King
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Crimson, and discuss the upcoming Virgin
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) release THRAK, the band's first new record
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) in over 11 years!!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 25 lucky people drawn from tonight's cyber-
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) crowd will win a copy of THRAK, due out in
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) stores April 25th....
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Winners will be notified via CompuServe Mail.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) To submit a question for Robert,
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) type: /QUESTION. When you are "recognized"
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) by me, you enter your question!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Please keep your question brief and be ready
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) when you are called upon. Any undue delay
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) and we will go on to the next question.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) At the end of your question, type "GA" (Go Ahead)
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) so Robert knows you're finished.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Hey Robert, I'm giving the floor to you to say hello
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) to your fans....GA!

(#71,Robert Fripp) This is Robert online

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Thanks for coming!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I love THRAK...

(#71,Robert Fripp) Yo Dude

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) and feel lucky that Virgin sent me a copy...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DIG IT!

(#71,Robert Fripp) Wish they would send me one

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) hehehe
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) now...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) let's go right to the floor...

% Moderator recognizes question #1
  Ikester (13)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Hi Ikester!

(#13,Ikester) Most Excellent Mr. Fripp,
(#13,Ikester) WE ALREADY STARTED PARTYING! YEAH!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) You're up!

(#13,Ikester) WE'RE DINOSAURS AND SOMEBODY'S BEEN DIGGING OUR BONES!!!
(#13,Ikester) Jeni and Ike and Tom and Barb and LisaGAMost Excellent Mr. Fripp,
(#13,Ikester) WE ALREADY STARTED PARTYING! YEAH!
(#13,Ikester) WE'RE DINOSAURS AND SOMEBODY'S BEEN DIGGING OUR BONES!!!

(#71,Robert Fripp) Why iWhy is Mr. Fripp excellent please?

(#13,Ikester) WhoiAfter 20 years of listening ????
(#13,Ikester) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) The music speaks more clearly than robert

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) OK Ikester...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) maybe you'll win THRAK

% Moderator recognizes question #2
  Brian Berry (73)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA brian!

(#73,Brian Berry) Greeting Robert.  Are you going to stick to Disipline-era
stuff on the tour?

(#71,Robert Fripp) Which era is that dude?

(#73,Brian Berry) I know some bands with long cawell other bands who have had
varing styles
(#73,Brian Berry) dont play their older stuff
(#73,Brian Berry) because they feel it is dated.  Is there
(#73,Brian Berry) music that seems that way to you? GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) Moonchild is of its period
(#71,Robert Fripp) Have no expectations of the repertoire at all RF

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) that's cool.

(#73,Brian Berry) thanks rober

(#71,Robert Fripp) That might even be hot RF

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) HAHAHAHA

% Moderator recognizes question #3
  jeff biehle (36)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Jeff!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks Brian.

(#36,jeff biehle) Hello Robert.  First let me say it's an honor to be "speaking"
with you.

(#71,Robert Fripp) Why is it an honour?

(#36,jeff biehle) Is it still the LevinBecause you've been one of my favorite
bands for over a decade.  I don't recall chatting with a famous
(#36,jeff biehle) musician before.
(#36,jeff biehle) My question is, is it still the Fripp-Belew-Levin-Bruford
line-up?
(#36,jeff biehle) GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) ello
(#71,Robert Fripp) Yes, and no.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 'splain please!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) It's Fripp, Belew, Levin, Bruford so yes, but it's also Gunn
and Mastelotto, so no.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) that 'splains it.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks

% Moderator recognizes question #4
  Stewart (75)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Stewart
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) !!!

(#75,Stewart) Hello, Robert! You and I go back quite a ways, Robert...at least
in terms of my listening to you.

(#71,Robert Fripp) Suggestion from Robert: please ask a question which is very
important for you, which you can't get anywhere else, and is really important

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) this will lwt us get to the most people!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Stewart.

(#75,Stewart) OK...so much for the compliment...please tell me that you are
going to be doing Court of the Crimson King as part of the repoertoire
(#75,Stewart) GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) Why should I tell you that?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) hohohoho

(#75,Stewart) It's one of those songs I've listened to for a long time & always
said I'd die to hear that in person. GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) Too ,amy space seedsShall I send you the address of a good
(#71,Robert Fripp) undertaker?

(#75,Stewart) Maybe after the concert? I'll see you in Milwaukee!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) does that mean you'llplay it for Stewart?

(#75,Stewart) GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) The quock answer is no.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks Stewart.

(#71,Robert Fripp) The quick answer is no.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) quock is cuool

% Moderator recognizes question #5
  Greg (4)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Greg!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) yer up/

(#71,Robert Fripp) Comeon. Burning questions.

(#4,Greg) Yo dude.  thank you for giving the music a voice.  A serious question.
Does this Crimson have an ongoing commitment to exist?

(#71,Robert Fripp) For one album.

(#4,Greg) That's it?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) now that's a committment!

(#71,Robert Fripp) That's it.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) but the music will live on...

(#4,Greg) Is it possible that a subsequent configuration will supplant it
shortly thereafter?

(#71,Robert Fripp) It may be that the same configuration will continue,
(#71,Robert Fripp) but the commitment is to one album.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks Grewg

(#4,Greg) I hope so.  I stand ready to accept whatever you have to offer.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) er...Greg.

% Moderator recognizes question #6
  dana (54)

(#54,dana) many years ago

(#71,Robert Fripp) How about a bill for $100,000?

(#54,dana) i rread in an interview..

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I'LL TAKE IT!

(#71,Robert Fripp) I'll send it.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I won;'t pay it though <g>

(#54,dana) about your three year plans...

(#71,Robert Fripp) Which three year plans did you have in moind?

(#54,dana) shit.
(#54,dana) oops...

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) sorry dana

(#54,dana) sorry...

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) yer fine.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Please, no bad language pillock brain.

(#54,dana) ok...
(#54,dana) i am blushing...

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I can see! :)

(#54,dana) many years ago, you spoke of "plans
(#54,dana) three year..
(#54,dana) five year...
(#54,dana) where do you see yourself now?

(#71,Robert Fripp) Are you asking me if I have plans?

(#54,dana) nay, just curious about...

(#71,Robert Fripp) I am where I am, when I am, with

(#54,dana) where you find yourself...

(#71,Robert Fripp) whomsoever I am.

(#54,dana) musically..

(#71,Robert Fripp) Curiosity is not enough. Go further.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) pass GO and collect $200.

(#54,dana) well, having not heard the product of the latest incarnation of the
band
(#54,dana) it is hard to ask...
(#54,dana) but, i am very curious

(#71,Robert Fripp) The band's latest product isn't product.

(#54,dana) in the direction
(#54,dana) you plan to take after this album..

(#71,Robert Fripp) We often see what we are doing now as the succession

(#54,dana) is it back to the more melodic frippertronics...
(#54,dana) or continuing to..
(#54,dana) uh...

(#71,Robert Fripp) of what we did before. Another approach is to allow the
future to guide us towards it.

(#54,dana) well, continuing in this vein
(#54,dana) brilliant.

(#71,Robert Fripp) You mean. towards the future or the past?
(#71,Robert Fripp) Then let's put out the lights.

(#54,dana) fareyour guess is as good as mine..
(#54,dana) fare forward, dear sir..

(#71,Robert Fripp) ProbablkProbably better!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) and we'll fare forward here as well..

% Moderator recognizes question #7

  Jim (26)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Jim!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks dana.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Forward HO!

(#26,Jim) Whaat does "Thela Hun Ginjeet" mean, and isn't the song about
(#26,Jim) an experience that Adrian had in New York?
(#26,Jim) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Sounds pretty dumb to me. It's about bad falafels.

(#26,Jim) cool.

(#71,Robert Fripp) Adrian's experience was in London, in All Saints Road.

(#26,Jim) oh

(#71,Robert Fripp) You should have the falafels there.

(#26,Jim) I will

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) or shouldn't?

(#26,Jim) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Burning questions please.

% Moderator recognizes question #8
  brent baumann (101)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Brent!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Burn one.

(#101,brent baumann) one album?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) there's a barn-burner. <g>

(#71,Robert Fripp) An increasing number of musicians in Eastern Europe get in
touch
(#71,Robert Fripp) with me.
(#71,Robert Fripp) One album.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Probably best to buy it now?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) or when it's released.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) :)

% Moderator recognizes question #9

  Craig Weinberg (96)

(#71,Robert Fripp) All ow the future to reach back and take

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Craig...

(#71,Robert Fripp) your money.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) looking for HOT questions.

(#96,Craig Weinberg) Hhello robert

(#96,Craig Weinberg) ga

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) geeeeze
% Moderator recognizes question #10
  Brian Gunnison (82)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Brain!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) you up.

(#82,Brian Gunnison) Do you loke Philip Glass?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Brian that is!

(#71,Robert Fripp) I would rather not comment on other
(#71,Robert Fripp) musicians.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) anymore Bri?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 3.....
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 2.....

(#82,Brian Gunnison) Where does your hallunicDo you have a high tolerance for
monotonicity

(#71,Robert Fripp) Plese engage me.
(#71,Robert Fripp) What is monotonicity please?

(#82,Brian Gunnison) Would you ever play loops on a Ultra VR CDROM?

(#71,Robert Fripp) What is an Ultra VR CDROM

(#82,Brian Gunnison) That should have been Monotony!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) here's here isn't he? <g>
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) he is that is.

(#82,Brian Gunnison) A epithet for one of the current Virtual Reality submersion
games.

(#71,Robert Fripp) One gGo through monotony.Then get bored.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Float me.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I'm virtually confused.

% Moderator recognizes question #11
  Tom (102)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Tom.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Rip it.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks Brian.

(#71,Robert Fripp) I enjoy playing in a variety of contexts.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Yo Tom.

(#71,Robert Fripp) Access me. I'm here.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 3...

(#71,Robert Fripp) Take me further.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 2...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 1...

% Moderator recognizes question #12

  Glen Giefer (50)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) let's go Glen!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) good name...have a burner?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Bye Tom. :(
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

(#71,Robert Fripp) Please use me.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) let's pick it up gang...
% Moderator recognizes question #13
  Rock Mondo (97)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Rock
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Roll pleeze.

(#97,Rock Mondo) whWhat Well let's see... What is the advantage to the double
trio format as opposed to the
(#97,Rock Mondo) four piece band I remember from the Discipline tour in 1980?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) getting warmer.

(#71,Robert Fripp) It has more people in it.

(#97,Rock Mondo) Dwow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Hey...where...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) did you get the idea..
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) for the double trio?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) The question to ask is where the idea came from.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) done

(#71,Robert Fripp) Than you Glen.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) =:o

(#97,Rock Mondo) which ok, ewhere did the idea come from then?

(#71,Robert Fripp) The idea of a double trio came in a flash, what
(#71,Robert Fripp) in guitar Craft is called
(#71,Robert Fripp) a
(#71,Robert Fripp) Point of Seeing. This bypasses our normal
(#71,Robert Fripp) way of thinking about things, which is actually
(#71,Robert Fripp) not thinking at all. Only when
(#71,Robert Fripp) we get past the surface noise
(#71,Robert Fripp) does any "thinking"as such actually
(#71,Robert Fripp) begin.
(#71,Robert Fripp) So, the idea of a double trio had
(#71,Robert Fripp) nothing to do with Robert, ut
(#71,Robert Fripp) flew by and impacted on him. fortunately
(#71,Robert Fripp) RF is sufficiently trained in these
(#71,Robert Fripp) points of seeing to be able to bring back
(#71,Robert Fripp) enough of the informational
(#71,Robert Fripp) content to apply some of it
(#71,Robert Fripp) in practice.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) is this a method you can practice and learn?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Yes.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) You still use it extensively?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Yes!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) !!!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks ...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I never would have come up with that...

% Moderator recognizes question #14
  Mitchell Bratton (1)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) meself
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Mitchell...

(#1,Mitchell Bratton) I have noticed that some guitar lines from some of your
albums materialize in other songs later on.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) gotta good one?

(#1,Mitchell Bratton) for example,
(#1,Mitchell Bratton) parts of I Advance Masked and
(#1,Mitchell Bratton) League of Gentlemen
(#1,Mitchell Bratton) showed up later in King Crimson songs.
(#1,Mitchell Bratton) Are you aware of this as you do it?

(#71,Robert Fripp) I give myself permission to continue
(#71,Robert Fripp) developing ideas until they
(#71,Robert Fripp) have run their course for me.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Then, I use them again.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) HAHAHAHAHA

(#1,Mitchell Bratton) Great!
(#1,Mitchell Bratton) Thanks.

% Moderator recognizes question #15
  Bill Bennett (53)
(#53,Bill Bennett) Thanks for being here! Do you ever hope to team with Laurie
Anderson? Does alcohol help or

(#53,Bill Bennett) stunt your creativity? Other stuff?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) yer up there Bill!

(#53,Bill Bennett) Thanks for being here! Do you ever hope to team with Laurie
Anderson? Does alcohol help or
(#53,Bill Bennett) stunt your creativity? Other stuff?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) deja vu.

(#53,Bill Bennett) Oops!

(#71,Robert Fripp) Laurie and I went to see the van gogh exhibition
(#71,Robert Fripp) at the Metropolitan in 1984 or 5. The most exciting
(#71,Robert Fripp) part of the day was riding into
(#71,Robert Fripp) downtown Manhattan Christmas
(#71,Robert Fripp) traffic on the back of her moped.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Terror. Terror. I have never
(#71,Robert Fripp) known terror like this. When we
(#71,Robert Fripp) reach despair, let us cry "Lord
(#71,Robert Fripp) Have Mercy". But we do not have to ride
(#71,Robert Fripp) on the back of Laurie's moped to reach despair.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Being a professional musician is close
(#71,Robert Fripp) enough. But I'll wait by the
(#71,Robert Fripp) 'phone to see if she'll call.
(#71,Robert Fripp) I never drink before going on stage. It
(#71,Robert Fripp) blunts the edge I need to play.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks Bill

% Moderator recognizes question #16
  Peter Bryant (21)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Peter!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Are you in the UK?

(#21,Peter Bryant) Hello Robert
(#21,Peter Bryant) Did you permit Sex Sleep... intro for Natrel+ TV ad in the
UK?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#21,Peter Bryant) Also any chance or re-releasing Young Persons (with book)
(#21,Peter Bryant) Hello robert sorry for that
(#21,Peter Bryant) `Did you permit Sex Sleep... intro for Natrel+ TV ad in the
UK?

(#71,Robert Fripp) The advert for Natrel -

(#21,Peter Bryant) Also any chance or re-releasing Young Persons (with book)
(#21,Peter Bryant) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Natrel - I was asked for permission (on behalf of the
(#71,Robert Fripp) other guys) as to whether Cage from
(#71,Robert Fripp) the mini CD VROOOM could be used
(#71,Robert Fripp) for a Gillette advert. Since I use
(#71,Robert Fripp) Gillette it was fine by me. Not cigarettes,
(#71,Robert Fripp) not alcohol. The other guys were also asked for
(#71,Robert Fripp) their input. But the firm asking
(#71,Robert Fripp) permission (Saatchi & Saatchi) made a
(#71,Robert Fripp) mistake - they really meant "Ses SEDD".
(#71,Robert Fripp) So we all had a BIG surprise when
(#71,Robert Fripp) a deodorant ad with a different song came
(#71,Robert Fripp) up! My personal aim was to have a
(#71,Robert Fripp) wild Crimson song (Cage) presented
(#71,Robert Fripp) to a public which would otherwise
(#71,Robert Fripp) probably never have heard it.

(#21,Peter Bryant) guess I'll throw away the wilkinson sword!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) hehe peter

(#21,Peter Bryant) PS Thrak - Lark tongues 4? Ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) YPGtoKC. Get the"Frame By Frame" box set whcih has he booklet
included within the Scrapbook.

(#21,Peter Bryant) thats the same book, bad memory !!! GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) Larls' IV.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Larks' IV: entirely feasible but the
(#71,Robert Fripp) difficulty for me would be the
(#71,Robert Fripp) expectations which would be created
(#71,Robert Fripp) in the audience. Then, I would have
(#71,Robert Fripp) to find the energy to remove or
(#71,Robert Fripp) throw the expectations. So,
(#71,Robert Fripp) this is enough reason not to present
(#71,Robert Fripp) Larks' IV. If you are asking me
(#71,Robert Fripp) if the music for Larks' IV is in the
(#71,Robert Fripp) ether, yes. But it would involve me
(#71,Robert Fripp) in too many problems to bring it in.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Lord Have Mercy

% Moderator recognizes question #17
  John Cantrell (79)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga John!

(#79,John Cantrell) Love your music Fripp... 25 year fan. I buy all I can find.
Two comments leading to one question.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) yer up.

(#79,John Cantrell) Love your music Fripp... 25 year fan. I buy all I can find.
Two comments leading to one question.
(#79,John Cantrell) Comment1: Crowd noise detail and ambiance in Great Deceiver
is extraordinary: adds to the music.
(#79,John Cantrell) Comment2: Vrooom is so densely recorded that I have trouble
identifying the individual players/parts/lines.
(#79,John Cantrell) Question: Will Thrak have a more open sound a la Great
Deceiver?

(#71,Robert Fripp) One acts in accordance with where one
(#71,Robert Fripp) is, when one is, with whomseover
(#71,Robert Fripp) one is. Time, place, person.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Which THRAK?

(#79,John Cantrell) New CD

(#71,Robert Fripp) When, Where?
(#71,Robert Fripp) The GD is live, THRAK is studio.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Best to see KC live and flying.

(#79,John Cantrell) Still, could have open sound

(#71,Robert Fripp) I'd rather have a hot dat3e

(#79,John Cantrell) Thanks... please please make more of your music available
for me to purchase.

(#71,Robert Fripp) with my wife than a love letter if
(#71,Robert Fripp) I have the choice between the two.
(#71,Robert Fripp) You've got the choice of both.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks both...

% Moderator recognizes question #18
  brian (100)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Brian...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) wiat a sec.

(#100,brian) Robert, What musical ideas

(#71,Robert Fripp) Please get in touch with Possible Productions

(#100,brian) make you want to reincarnate
(#100,brian) KC rather than create a different
(#100,brian) type of band, like
(#100,brian) league?
(#100,brian) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) League music makes a demand for
(#71,Robert Fripp) the League to appear, Crimson
(#71,Robert Fripp) music for Crimson, Soundscapes
(#71,Robert Fripp) for Soundscapes. That's
(#71,Robert Fripp) not the problem. The problem is
(#71,Robert Fripp) dealing with all the practicalities.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Like, it costs $30,000 to have
(#71,Robert Fripp) the six members of Crimson in
(#71,Robert Fripp) one room together with
(#71,Robert Fripp) their instruments. The music
(#71,Robert Fripp) takes care of itself (with a little
(#71,Robert Fripp) humility) but it doesn't
(#71,Robert Fripp) seem to pay the bills!

% Moderator recognizes question #19
  Tim (57)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Tim!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) cookin' now folks...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) questions a lot better.,
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) the pressure is on Tim now.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) :)
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Tim.

(#57,Tim) I am I am a vegitarian/percussionist/philosopher interested in Craft.
What is it's status? GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) Is this a New York Post

(#57,Tim) What is the status of Guitar Craft?

(#71,Robert Fripp) headline?

(#57,Tim) GA

(#71,Robert Fripp) I am leaving NY tomorrow for
(#71,Robert Fripp) Argentina where we are hoding
(#71,Robert Fripp) holding the second Level One in
(#71,Robert Fripp) Argentina. In America and Europe I
(#71,Robert Fripp) am more concerned with addressing the
(#71,Robert Fripp) needs of students who are already
(#71,Robert Fripp) involved. The difficulty for
(#71,Robert Fripp) me personally is that when a
(#71,Robert Fripp) student makes a commitment to
(#71,Robert Fripp) GC it places a responsibility
(#71,Robert Fripp) upon me. So, for new courses in the
(#71,Robert Fripp) US I would have to take on a respon
(#71,Robert Fripp) sibility which I would find difficult to honour
(#71,Robert Fripp) at this time. But I have plans for 1999,
(#71,Robert Fripp) 2007 and 2017.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) complete status...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) for the next 23 yrs.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) who said plans before?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) <G>

(#57,Tim) What about drummer?

% Moderator recognizes question #20
  Don St. John (55)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Hold on Don...

(#55,Don St. John) do you go online often? and might

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) which drummer Tim?
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) hold on there

(#57,Tim) Drummers in Craft?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Don...one sec...thanksTim.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga Robert.

(#71,Robert Fripp) You might be interested in the Kodo
(#71,Robert Fripp) drummers. But if you are seeking
(#71,Robert Fripp) a craft instructor, keep your
(#71,Robert Fripp) eyes open and be in time! If
(#71,Robert Fripp) there is a need, the need addresses
(#71,Robert Fripp) itself. This has to be. So,
(#71,Robert Fripp) if you need an instructor there
(#71,Robert Fripp) will be an instructor to meet
(#71,Robert Fripp) your need. But, your need must be
(#71,Robert Fripp) real. If your need is real, this
(#71,Robert Fripp) creates a certain tension
(#71,Robert Fripp) in the cosmic internet which
(#71,Robert Fripp) makes the answer to your need come
(#71,Robert Fripp) into existence. Otherwise the balance
(#71,Robert Fripp) is lost. So, hold your need and
(#71,Robert Fripp) allow it to grow.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) there ya go Tim
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) !!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Don

(#55,Don St. John) worth waiting. Robert, do you go online often? and might
(#55,Don St. John) online communication create opportunity for people
(#55,Don St. John) to regard you as less guitar lord,
(#55,Don St. John) more human being?
(#55,Don St. John) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Please bow before me before I go
(#71,Robert Fripp) on.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) WE"RE NOT WORTHY!

(#55,Don St. John) (bowing):-)

(#71,Robert Fripp) Too true. So, no, I don't
(#71,Robert Fripp) go online. This is the first.
(#71,Robert Fripp) My Thinkpad hasn't arrived yet and

(#55,Don St. John) more possible in future?

(#71,Robert Fripp) my life is busy enough right now.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks for taking the time.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Sincerely this time <g>.

% Moderator recognizes question #21
  Eric Landes (28)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Eric!

(#28,Eric Landes) When you realized that KC needed to reform, were th
(#28,Eric Landes) other former members considered?  Eddie Jobson perhaps?

(#71,Robert Fripp) Eddie Jobson has never

(#28,Eric Landes) Or did the music within you determine the makeup of hte band?
(#28,Eric Landes) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) been a member of KC.The makeup of the band was determined
(#71,Robert Fripp) by the music and the Point of Seeing
(#71,Robert Fripp) which presented the form of itself.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Everyone who has ever been in KC (almost)
(#71,Robert Fripp) has expressed a major interest in
(#71,Robert Fripp) working in Crimson again. But
(#71,Robert Fripp) inevitably this leads to a "reformation".

(#28,Eric Landes) So live performers aren't necessarily in the band?

(#71,Robert Fripp) KC doesn't reform, it is more like a reincarnation.
(#71,Robert Fripp) I'll see if they are still breathing,

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) THRAK sounds like an incarnation to moi...

% Moderator recognizes question #22
  James Henriques (56)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA James.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) 's your turn.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) in the barrel. <g>

(#56,James Henriques) question #6DO ypufind that the technology fdrives the
music, or has the music coaught up with the technolgya pleasure. do you find
thata
(#56,James Henriques) a pleazsure. do you find that the technology drives the
music, or has technology caught up with music you had ideas about yeasr ago?

(#71,Robert Fripp) My own experience is that technology makes it
(#71,Robert Fripp) possible to present sounds which
(#71,Robert Fripp) would otherwise be very hard to resonate.
(#71,Robert Fripp) It's enables thingsright now. The tech
(#71,Robert Fripp) about now - I wish that we had had this
(#71,Robert Fripp) available in 1969. Of course
(#71,Robert Fripp) it's fun to carry a heavy
(#71,Robert Fripp) burden for twenty miles on
(#71,Robert Fripp) our shoulders, but I'd rather put
(#71,Robert Fripp) it in the back of truck.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks

% Moderator recognizes question #23
  Drew Hannah (83)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Drew.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) No moped?

(#83,Drew Hannah) Is Thrak
(#83,Drew Hannah) is thrak all new material- non vroom - or if same dif mixes,

(#71,Robert Fripp) THRAK has some of the same pieces

(#83,Drew Hannah) and any renaissance medievel influences you care to name?

(#71,Robert Fripp) as on VROOOM but they are all recorded again. In my view
(#71,Robert Fripp) both VROOOM and THRAK are
(#71,Robert Fripp) different and I enjoy
(#71,Robert Fripp) listening to both but at different times
(#71,Robert Fripp) and in different moods. THRAK itself
(#71,Robert Fripp) is so WILD on VROOOM!

(#83,Drew Hannah) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Yes, I', trying to remember the names ... but fail.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) not bowing any longer here.

% Moderator recognizes question #24
  David Hammond (69)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA DAvid!

(#69,David Hammond) HI THERE

(#71,Robert Fripp) Yo dudey babe

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) THRAK h..has VROOOM..with a view.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) sorry about that.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#69,David Hammond) QUESTION ABOUT YOUR BAND MEMBERS

(#71,Robert Fripp) Probably best to get them online, then

(#69,David Hammond) WHAT HAVE THE MEMBERS OF DISCIPLINRE-ERA BAND BROUGHT NEW TO
THIS BAND IN YOUR OPINION

(#71,Robert Fripp) Who and what they are.

(#69,David Hammond) GA

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks

% Moderator recognizes question #25
  Carl Oehling (98)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) yer up Carl.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA

(#98,Carl Oehling) what are your plans for future projects with David Sylvian?

(#71,Robert Fripp) When David and I were working
(#71,Robert Fripp) in Japan on the Redemption presentation
(#71,Robert Fripp) I suggested to him that we should
(#71,Robert Fripp) perform in the original trio
(#71,Robert Fripp) format of Sylvian / Fripp / Gunn
(#71,Robert Fripp) which had made the original performances.
(#71,Robert Fripp) But David is very busy now on
(#71,Robert Fripp) his next project (solo) and Trey and
(#71,Robert Fripp) myself are kinda booked up
(#71,Robert Fripp) with Prince Scarlet and the boys.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) that's that

% Moderator recognizes question #26
  Patrick (22)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ok Patrick...

(#22,Patrick) Rodney!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA

(#22,Patrick) Your Tea's ready!

(#71,Robert Fripp) No hope of that.

(#22,Patrick) Have electronic instruments dilutted the musical artform?

(#71,Robert Fripp) I'm just explaining
(#71,Robert Fripp) that that's a reference to the GGF album.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Which musical artform? Certainly not the elctronic artform!
(#71,Robert Fripp) But if you are referring to acoustic performance,
(#71,Robert Fripp) yes.

% Moderator recognizes question #27
  Mike Seidensticker (61)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ok Mike!

(#61,Mike Seidensticker) When I saw KC in Ann Arbor in 1983 or so, I experienced
(#61,Mike Seidensticker) the strange sensation of experiencing colorrr

(#71,Robert Fripp) Why is that experience strage?

(#61,Mike Seidensticker) as a response to your music.because I had never
experienced this before or since

(#71,Robert Fripp) Music is always mysterious. We know
(#71,Robert Fripp) very very little about music, and the
(#71,Robert Fripp) act of music, in our culture. Because
(#71,Robert Fripp) music appears to be so commonplace
(#71,Robert Fripp) we allow ourselves to be
(#71,Robert Fripp) deeived, and to believe it is
(#71,Robert Fripp) commonplace. But at particular
(#71,Robert Fripp) moments, for various reasons, sometimes
(#71,Robert Fripp) musci manages to slip behind
(#71,Robert Fripp) what we expect it to be, or what we
(#71,Robert Fripp) expect to happen. for example, we
(#71,Robert Fripp) normally believe that we
(#71,Robert Fripp) listen to music with our ears.
(#71,Robert Fripp) For example, we listen to music,
(#71,Robert Fripp) but what we actually do is
(#71,Robert Fripp) to listen AT music. Why not
(#71,Robert Fripp) listen THROUGH the music, and interrogate
(#71,Robert Fripp) the music waiting fo rus on the
(#71,Robert Fripp) other side of the sound of music
(#71,Robert Fripp) (if your forgive the image
(#71,Robert Fripp) of julie andrews listening
(#71,Robert Fripp) through music on a hilltop). Music
(#71,Robert Fripp) always has the potential to
(#71,Robert Fripp) utterly and radically transorm
(#71,Robert Fripp) both how we live our lives and
(#71,Robert Fripp) how we interpret our lives. But,
(#71,Robert Fripp) we forget this. It's tragic.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Colours - nothing strange about
(#71,Robert Fripp) hearing in colours, or in scents or in flavours.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Or anything else at all.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) for that matter.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) let's move one...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) to the next color.

% Moderator recognizes question #29

  Les Kooyman (91)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) yer up Les.

(#91,Les Kooyman) Hello and thanks for being with us.
(#91,Les Kooyman) This is a burning question, at least
(#91,Les Kooyman) to me.
(#91,Les Kooyman) As a KC fan, I have a somewhat passionate
(#91,Les Kooyman) relationship to the music.
(#91,Les Kooyman) (Thanks for Dr. Diamond, BTW, I thought

(#71,Robert Fripp) If you will allow me to respond to that, it's a p[Which
music?

(#91,Les Kooyman) I had dreamed that memory)
(#91,Les Kooyman) Well, I was general because I have
(#91,Les Kooyman) enjoyed all the KC phases, although they affected me
(#91,Les Kooyman) differently. Especially in the context
(#91,Les Kooyman) of the time I heard
(#91,Les Kooyman) them. The first album came out when I was
(#91,Les Kooyman) in high school here. It would not have
(#91,Les Kooyman) the effect on me now that it did then,
(#91,Les Kooyman) for example. It was VERY powerful.
(#91,Les Kooyman) Anyway, sorry to weasel
(#91,Les Kooyman) on the question, but I was trying to be inclusive.
(#91,Les Kooyman) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) My own relationship with Crimson is passionate. Otherwise, I
would be unable to deal with all the nonsense, deciet, lies and theft which
(#71,Robert Fripp) surrounds the life of the professional musician.
(#71,Robert Fripp) I would enjoy enormously sitting in the
(#71,Robert Fripp) garden with my dear Little Wife and Beaton
(#71,Robert Fripp) Bunnerius bun the wonder rabbit, gently dropping
(#71,Robert Fripp) occasional quaffs of chilled champagne.
(#71,Robert Fripp) But, here I am. There you are.

(#91,Les Kooyman) I was wondering about the other side of the equation,
(#91,Les Kooyman) the maker of the music between us. I enjoy KC a lot. Thank
you.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) well put les.

(#71,Robert Fripp) Here waRobert doesn't make the music. It's truer to say that
the music makes robert.

% Moderator recognizes question #31
  John Bendig (16)

(#16,John Bendig) Greetings Robert, welcome to CompuServe!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA John...

(#16,John Bendig) You were discussion the makeup
(#16,John Bendig) of the band and the fact that
(#16,John Bendig) former members have expressed interest
(#16,John Bendig) in returning.  Do you retain full power
(#16,John Bendig) over the lineup and other major decisions?  Do
(#16,John Bendig) you consider Crimson YOUR band?
(#16,John Bendig) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) The quick answer is no.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Anymore John?

(#16,John Bendig) How do you make decisions, then?

(#71,Robert Fripp) Seeing where a decision is made
(#71,Robert Fripp) is very hard, and maybe imposisble.
(#71,Robert Fripp) But one recognises that a decision is taken.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Bu tI think you're asking
(#71,Robert Fripp) about decisions within the band.
(#71,Robert Fripp) No-one tells musicians this good

(#16,John Bendig) yes

(#71,Robert Fripp) either what to play or what to do. So, if I
(#71,Robert Fripp) have a sense of something which requires
(#71,Robert Fripp) to be done it's up to me
(#71,Robert Fripp) to present that to the others. And
(#71,Robert Fripp) to encourage them to make their contributions
(#71,Robert Fripp) as well. Crimson is the nearest to
(#71,Robert Fripp) an anarchism that I know. this is
(#71,Robert Fripp) where (in political terms) there is no
(#71,Robert Fripp) ruler. It's an ideal state way beyond
(#71,Robert Fripp) democracy and beyond "the
(#71,Robert Fripp) dictatorship of the proles" - it's
(#71,Robert Fripp) a position where we all have
(#71,Robert Fripp) accepted responsibility for ourselves
(#71,Robert Fripp) and are sufficiently mature to
(#71,Robert Fripp) respond in a polity and community
(#71,Robert Fripp) and society where we
(#71,Robert Fripp) all act in accordance with
(#71,Robert Fripp) ourselves, others and in the
(#71,Robert Fripp) moment. This may sound arcane
(#71,Robert Fripp) to you but for me this is the
(#71,Robert Fripp) nuts and bolts of what is
(#71,Robert Fripp) involved in being a professional
(#71,Robert Fripp) musician and a human being

(#16,John Bendig) I would think it

(#71,Robert Fripp) simultaneously. The musician is concerned with
(#71,Robert Fripp) music, the professional musician with
(#71,Robert Fripp) business. So, this inevitably leads to
(#71,Robert Fripp) questions which are in essence political
(#71,Robert Fripp) (that is, from the Greek root,
(#71,Robert Fripp) based in disagreement) but which the
(#71,Robert Fripp) musician seeks to harmonise. Simply, if
(#71,Robert Fripp) the life of the musician is out of tune, out of
(#71,Robert Fripp) time and disharmonious, something is
(#71,Robert Fripp) profoundly wrong. Obviously, I have my role to
(#71,Robert Fripp) play in Crimson but it's not to tell
(#71,Robert Fripp) the other guys what to play or what to do - that's
impossible, as typed above.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Adrian described my role as "quality
(#71,Robert Fripp) control" by which I took him to mean
(#71,Robert Fripp) that I am able to recognise the
(#71,Robert Fripp) particular quality of Crimsonj
(#71,Robert Fripp) when it flies by, He's right!
(#71,Robert Fripp) But the Crimson quality, or way of doing things,
(#71,Robert Fripp) goes beyond the musical. After
(#71,Robert Fripp) all, music has its function. It's not kust
(#71,Robert Fripp) just nice colours, or groovy sounds,
(#71,Robert Fripp) or a degree of intensity that squeezes
(#71,Robert Fripp) your nuts as you realise these guys
(#71,Robert Fripp) are actually out there and bringing it
(#71,Robert Fripp) back.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Next question please.

(#16,John Bendig) Wow!

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) whew!~

% Moderator recognizes question #32
  Gabriel Foux (49)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Gabriel...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) fingers ready to fire.

(#49,Gabriel Foux) You mentioned you love a HOT DATE

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) actually, resting.

(#71,Robert Fripp) Only with my wife.

(#49,Gabriel Foux) Why don't you take WILD KC on the road more often?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) he also mentioned that.

(#71,Robert Fripp) The world would not be able to handle it.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Probably, neither would the audiences.
(#71,Robert Fripp) And the musicians might die.

(#49,Gabriel Foux) Why Argentina? Why so many dates?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) not to mention the wives.

(#49,Gabriel Foux) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Argentina: buesnos Aires is a hot place on the
(#71,Robert Fripp) planet right now. It's alive. It's also
(#71,Robert Fripp) a great place for music and living
(#71,Robert Fripp) and cappucini.
(#71,Robert Fripp) If I were a single young man of 30
(#71,Robert Fripp) which was the case when I cam to NY in
(#71,Robert Fripp) 1977 I would now go to buenos Aires. It's
(#71,Robert Fripp) hot, it's alive, it loves mucians.
(#71,Robert Fripp) And there is a considerable need for
(#71,Robert Fripp) Guitar Craft.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) works f me...

% Moderator recognizes question #33
  Sam (33)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Sam!

(#33,Sam) Withthe plentiful amount of Fripp/KC Live albums being released,
(#33,Sam) I was wondering if you believe your role as the peformer has
(#33,Sam) changed within the years.
(#33,Sam) g/a

(#71,Robert Fripp) The role is the same but my understanding of
(#71,Robert Fripp) it is deepening.

(#33,Sam) How so?

% Moderator recognizes question #34
  Jo Bogaert (12)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) oops...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga FR.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) RF!

(#71,Robert Fripp) How does a tree mature?

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) one ring at a time.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Jo.

(#12,Jo Bogaert) what is the idea behind discipline records, the label. A need?
A point of seeing

(#71,Robert Fripp) That's right. It continues through time but it
(#71,Robert Fripp) grows. I don't know if you have ever
(#71,Robert Fripp) allowed yourself a relationship with
(#71,Robert Fripp) trees but to enter into the
(#71,Robert Fripp) presence of an old tree, like a yew of perhaps 200 yews
(quite young
(#71,Robert Fripp) for a yew) or a 250 year old walnut? Well, the trees welcome
you
(#71,Robert Fripp) within their presence and, if you are
(#71,Robert Fripp) able to listen, speak to you. this

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I have a 400 yr old LLive Oak.

(#71,Robert Fripp) is not a conversation which you can tap into
(#71,Robert Fripp) the internet, you appreciate! But's it's
(#71,Robert Fripp) quite real. If you plant trees you are involved
(#71,Robert Fripp) in a contract with the future, based in the
(#71,Robert Fripp) present with the context determined by the past.
(#71,Robert Fripp) In music, one is part of an eternal moment
(#71,Robert Fripp) if one allows the music to speak directly
(#71,Robert Fripp) and immediately. This moment is always fresh, always
(#71,Robert Fripp) new, almost freshly born, and yet has an
(#71,Robert Fripp) intimate and essential contact both
(#71,Robert Fripp) with the first note which has been struck
(#71,Robert Fripp) and all the notes which followed. Bu the really
(#71,Robert Fripp) interesting point is that sometime the future
(#71,Robert Fripp) reaches back and hits the note to guide you
(#71,Robert Fripp) towards it. So, a relationship with a tree involves
(#71,Robert Fripp) a moment, but a larger moment than we would
(#71,Robert Fripp) normally consider. Say, 200-300 years minimum.
(#71,Robert Fripp) The performance of music involves us in
(#71,Robert Fripp) a persent moment, but one which is eternal.

(#12,Jo Bogaert) CGT and T Gunn are nice trees

(#71,Robert Fripp) It's time for it to snow in florida.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) hahahahhaa
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) you know...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) we have planted musical trees...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) for a brief period of time...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) that the civilization will..
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) catch up with.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) now...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA JO!!!!!!!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) wait!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) RF is up again!

(#71,Robert Fripp) In a ci
(#71,Robert Fripp) In a civilisation or culture where the
(#71,Robert Fripp) political institutions lack
(#71,Robert Fripp) credibility, where the process of law
(#71,Robert Fripp) is clearly neither concerned with
(#71,Robert Fripp) the provision of natural justice nor
(#71,Robert Fripp) the establishment of truth,
(#71,Robert Fripp) where our financial institutions are clearly
(#71,Robert Fripp) not particularly interested inthe
(#71,Robert Fripp) financial best interests of little
(#71,Robert Fripp) people, it places a particularly
(#71,Robert Fripp) great responsibility on the culture's
(#71,Robert Fripp) artists to speak in words which are true.
(#71,Robert Fripp) Ask yourself this simple question:
(#71,Robert Fripp) did Lennon lie for money? Does your favorite
(#71,Robert Fripp) recording star lie for money? Are they influenced
(#71,Robert Fripp) by primarily commercial considerations?
(#71,Robert Fripp) If the answer to the last question is yes,
(#71,Robert Fripp) our culture has just died.Next question please.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) thanks...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) the culture has not died.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA JO!

(#71,Robert Fripp) You may be wrong.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) REALLY this time! <g>
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I sincerely hope not.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) or...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Lord Have Mercy!
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) <g>

(#12,Jo Bogaert) What is the idea behind Discipline Records? A need? A point of
seeing?

(#71,Robert Fripp) Lord Have Mercy.
(#71,Robert Fripp) The main aim of Discipline Global Mobile
(#71,Robert Fripp) is to enable music to be presented which otherwise
(#71,Robert Fripp) would probably not. A secondary aim is to make sure
(#71,Robert Fripp) that the artists
(#71,Robert Fripp) get paid for their work. Rather than, for
(#71,Robert Fripp) example, most of the money being siphoned
(#71,Robert Fripp) off into advertising, waste, inefficiency,
(#71,Robert Fripp) dinners for people with no connection
(#71,Robert Fripp) to the artists. This involves a radical
(#71,Robert Fripp) commitment for me, who would rather
(#71,Robert Fripp) leave business to business people. but
(#71,Robert Fripp) I havea found that few people in the
(#71,Robert Fripp) msuci industry actually come up
(#71,Robert Fripp) with radical ideas regarding business: like, allowing the
(#71,Robert Fripp) music to speak for itself, like accepting
(#71,Robert Fripp) that the work of the artists belongs to the
(#71,Robert Fripp) artists. this is being typed from Virgin
(#71,Robert Fripp) Records, you appreciate. Virgin are a dinosayr,
(#71,Robert Fripp) but a relatively humane dinosaur. Some
(#71,Robert Fripp) dinosaur's you wouldn't want to step on thier
(#71,Robert Fripp) tails.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) you sound like a damned good business man to me.

% Moderator recognizes question #35
  Bill Henkel (51)

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) GA Bill...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) almost done..
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) we have 4 minutes.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) make it a good question! <g>
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ga

(#51,Bill Henkel) how do feel about bootlegs do they further the music or ripoff
the performer
(#51,Bill Henkel) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Bootlegs always rip off the performer, unless the
(#71,Robert Fripp) performer releases the bootlegs themselves. The
(#71,Robert Fripp) idea that the bootlegger is an idealistic
(#71,Robert Fripp) music lover who makes available music which
(#71,Robert Fripp) otherwise would be controlled and restricted
(#71,Robert Fripp) bu a cruel and rapcious industry is well
(#71,Robert Fripp) exploded by now. Bootlegging is an international
(#71,Robert Fripp) industry with several relatively
(#71,Robert Fripp) wellknown and professional characters
(#71,Robert Fripp) whose business is theft. Their concern is not
(#71,Robert Fripp) with quality, I suggest. I accept that there
(#71,Robert Fripp) is a need expressed by audiences for a
(#71,Robert Fripp) snapshot of an artist in full flight. DGM is
(#71,Robert Fripp) approaching this in our way but only
(#71,Robert Fripp) because we are now able to release our
(#71,Robert Fripp) official bootlegs independently.

(#51,Bill Henkel) thanks love you
(#51,Bill Henkel) ga

(#71,Robert Fripp) Major lables are not able to accept the
(#71,Robert Fripp) compromises on quality that bootlegs necessarily entail. DGM
(#71,Robert Fripp) says "this is a bootleg but the best
(#71,Robert Fripp) quality bootleg we can give you". hen, you can pay or not.
(#71,Robert Fripp) When, as a performer, I ask people not to
(#71,Robert Fripp) record the performance, I consider those that
(#71,Robert Fripp) do to be violating that performance, and myself,
(#71,Robert Fripp) at best being exceptionally rude. For me, this
(#71,Robert Fripp) is quite tangible and since it's time to snow
(#71,Robert Fripp) in florida I had better stop and thank everyone

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) hahaha
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) but before we go...

(#71,Robert Fripp) who has had the interest to plug in for your time and
attention.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) We'd like to sincerely thank you...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) both CompuServe and the Recording Industry Forum...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) abosultely great guest...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) and I personally will listen to ...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) your music with different ears.
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) now...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) I'm going to open the floor...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) and everyone can thank Robert...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) en masse..
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) OKRobert...
(#6,Glenn-Moderator) ?

(#51,Bill Henkel) yeah!!!

(#71,Robert Fripp) Please don't thank me.

(#6,Glenn-Moderator) Well I do...so there. <g>

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