Elephant Talk #1224 (as text)

30 March 2006

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:24:08 -0800 (PST)
From: greg gamage <ET06093 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: The Big Boss

I watched a very early Bruce Lee film called "The Big Boss" while on a bus ride in southern China. The movie was maybe set in a very tropical looking Hong Kong, and Lee didn't really start flailing his fists until near the end.

What I caught in the tinny soundtrack was about 15 seconds of "Larks Tongues in Aspic" about half way through. Has anyone else spotted this ? Or likewise the Shostakovich (sp. ? ) work that David Cross imitates in his violin solo on the same album.

Heartless and ribald yack : Greg

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:10:25 EST
From: Inturmoil <ET00819 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: XM radio

I just recently discovered that my directv has XM radio. There is an awesome station called music lab. Lots of KC, YES, RUSH, etc. Jason

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:05:30 -0800
From: Dwight Broeman <ET02059 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: Robert Fripp Collaboration.

I obviously am a huge Fripp fan or I would not be here. I have also recently found the talents of Steve Wilson who is the mastermind behind Porcupine Tree, No-Man and others. It was very cool to see that Fripp recorded with Wilson along with Tim Bowness on No-Man's Flowermouth album. WOW.

Then, little did I know that Adrian did some guitar work on Porcupine Tree's Deadwing album. It is just very interesting how all of the good musicians that I like are intertwined somehow.

Anxious for Levin's new album. Enjoy Gunn's work. I will be seeing the CGT here in San Juan Capistrano in May where Tom Greiesgraber will sit in instead of Tony (of course I would prefer Levin. However, he is pretty good). Should be a good show!



Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:12:11 -0500
From: David Kirkdorffer <ET04201 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: A question.

Hi -

A lot of good points have been raised since my initial "What happened to ET? Any life left, here?" posting.

May I make a suggestion? When one presses a link / button to launch e-mail addressed to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com, is it possible to automatically prefill the subject line with "ETPOST:" ?? Would this undermine anti-SPAM or hiding personal e-mail address safeguards?

[I made this last suggestion a while back but either it was not acted upon or else it was technically difficult; I forget. -- Mike ]


Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:39:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Raymond Raupers <ET02687 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: Lyrical Content

ET continues to march at odd angles to the necessary. As long as King crimson lacks lyrical content, the opportunity to enjoy personal development rather than homogenous socialist sterility will escape ET. While the world rests in flames, King Crimson avoids commentary, posturing indifference as status, leaving philosophy, war and the spoils of reality to the basement dwellers.

Raymond J Raupers Jr

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:00:34 -0500
From: Ling & Emory <ET04482 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: Murakami and Fripp!

ET Folks:

Long time no post. I think I stopped regularly reading ET back when a lot of new fans came in and were posting a lot of traditional fan-type stuff. Sorry to sound snooty, but that just wasn't of a lot of interest to me. So the lower bandwidth I think could result in more interesting posts.

Anyway, for a number of years I've been into the Japanese author Haruki Murakami (author of the Wind Up Bird Chronicle and Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World). In Underground he's interviewing a number of people about the Tokyo gas attacks and this came up:

I found out about Gurdjieff through King Crimson. Their guitarist Robert Fripp was a follower of Gurdjieff. After he got into that his music changed drastically. I think much of my outlook on life was influenced by that kind of music.

Just thought it was kind of interesting to hear Fripp mentioned in a Murakami book!


Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:12:33 GMT
From: Mike Dickson <ET00000 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: DGM Live Downloads

As the appaling perpetrator of the ETPOST business I feel I ought to be handing back something to ET. :-)


...in the spirit of constructive assistance, I ask the assembled hordes of salivating King Crimson fans what they think the essential KC downloads from DGM Live are.

My own (probably predictable) favourites are the Asbury Park set from 28th June 1974 because it shows a *great* band at the absolute peak of its combined musical powers; 'Fracture' absolutely does it for me on this on. (It also makes me wonder just how the double trio - or even the TCoL quartet - would have played it. It still sounds well-suited to their canon and exuberant abilities)

I'm also partial to the Arlington 1973 set, partly because of the surprising additions to said 'Fracture' and partly because it sounds like the band is having a blast playing it. The round-off of TTD/LTIA2/21CSM is especially astonishing to thee ears; Christ knows what it must have been like to have been in the same room when this was going on.

So do tell - what are your favourites? And that includes you, Robert - I know you're watching. :-)


Mike Dickson
Elephant Talk Administration and Distribution

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:47:20 -0500
From: Stuart Kirkham <ET06097 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: Exposure Re-release

I am certainly looking forward to the impending re-release of Exposure. I was wondering, however, what the vinyl mini-LP was about? What is this exactly?

Also, I was wondering what the status of Sunday All Over The World is? I notice that it is not offered on the DGM website, but is still listed on Amazon as an Editions EG release. I am assuming that EG still owns it, but was wondering if Fripp and company were trying to acquire that title for DGM? It would be a wonderful addition to the DGM catalog. Any possibility or necessity of having it remastered and re-released? It is a jewel of an album, and is one of my favorites that Fripp has produced.

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:56:13 -0800
From: daniel <ET00002 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: mailto suggestion

David asked (in this digest further up),

> May I make a suggestion?  When one presses a link / button to launch
> e-mail addressed to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com, is it possible to
> automatically prefill the subject line with "ETPOST:" ??  Would this
> undermine anti-SPAM or hiding personal e-mail address safeguards?

Mike added the following comment:

> [I made this last suggestion a while back but either it was not acted
> upon or else it was technically difficult; I forget. -- Mike ]

Not sure who said it was technically difficult. It isn't. You may notice that Toby has adjusted the "POST" link on the HTML newsletter pages, and I've done the same for newsletter at elephant-talk dot com mailto links at ET Web.

How's that for service?

ET is Dead? Nah!

ET Web

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:37:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Gerard York <ET00678 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: Mel Collins on New King Crimson?

The 21st Century Schizoid Band website says Mel Collins has been invited to appear on the new King Crimson album. Anyone read anything else about this?

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:32:52 -0800 (PST)
From: WILLIAM KENT <ET06077 at elephant-talk dot com>
Subject: Fragg lives!

Dear Team: Reports of ET's demise have been greatly inebriated. So, in an effort to save ET from distinction, I have taken it upon myself to stalk, balk and occasionally caulk the cracks, facts, natterings and infrequent nasal splatterings of the not-quite-late, not- yet-demented, less-than-prolifi c but still working, if not shirking, prog-nostrum-making guitarist, Norbert Fragg.

As none of you know, Mr. Fragg is currently embarked on a "breakout" Soundscrapes tour of the cheerful dives, upscale strip joints and rollicking roadhouses of the US. The aim of this tour (and every tour must take aim before it can shoot), according to meretricious marketing data distributed to the freeloading, unloading and nefariously downloading fraternity of mucilaginous music journalists, is Fragg's aspiration to bring his delightfully spontaneous aural fixations to a "larger audient."

This audient is actually a 400 pound former bass player who does not answer to the jovial bon mot Bleater the Sour. Mr. Sour, as he was called in the New York Times, fled the England's last remaining hills of green to rock, if not roll, through the flabby underbelly of the American legacy music consciousness.

Alas, said Sour has so far escaped the sonic, well tempered importunings of the frolicking, melancholicking Fragg. Fragg's hope (and all Fragg 's must hope, it is their destiny!) is to inspire nostalgia, if not neuralgia, for that first, and certainly accursed iteration of the immortal prog rock combo, Thing Dismal.

A Thing Dismal reunion, especially among musicians who, despite all temptation from aging promoters, remain dead (still!), has excited our guitarist, given him a raison d'etre, which, when combined with a raisin bagel and a frothy cappuccino, make it ever so easy for our nasal retensive guitarist to bring new mucous into the world.

A feature of the Soundscrapes tour is the fiesty Fragg's `tween tunes answers to questions that, night and day, are yearning and, burning but not quite the Cole Porter lyric that comes to mind. Those who proffer queries showing profound intellectual vacuity (what Fragg has called an "abscess of presence"), or who merely ask the fulminating Fragg to pose for a picture, are visited by the hale and hearty Drawn-and-Quartered Detainers. This jolly group of American lads, having been raised on metabolic steroids, genetically altered food supplements and the recorded lute fugues of Ted Nugent, pounce upon the hapless audients and perform extreme rendition, followed, when necessary, by extreme unction.

The following are among the questions underheard at a recent Soundscrapes performance at the Esteamed Milk Coffee Shop and Tawdry Gentleman's Club of Near Darkness, South Dakota.

Female Audient: Mr. Fragg, is that a banana in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

Fragg: "That is not a burning question."

Male Audient: Is music the food of love? "Yes, but not for you."

Second Male Audient: I took my girlfriend to this concert in order to ply her with liquor and loud, raucous rhythmic beats so that, upon your performance's conclusion, she become sufficiently stimulated in a brain-deadened way to mate with me. The noise you've made so far has thwarted my intentions. I have asked my girlfriend what might save this evening from utter ruin. She said she is a big fan of Dr. Samuel Johnson. Can you play any Samuel Johnson?

Fragg: "Certainly. 'Silence propagates itself, and the longer talk has been suspended, the more difficult it is to find anything to say.'"

Second Female Audient: Cool.

--Bill Kent

Mike Stok