Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #1206 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 1206 Sunday, 1 May 2005 Today's Topics: robert fripp apologises to bob carruthers ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send *all posts* to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com ** Posts intended for the newsletter should have a subject prefix of ETPOST ** Posts intended for an individual newsletter contributor should have a subject prefix of their ET 'Ticket Number', shown at ETxxxxx in their 'From:' line in the newsletter. 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If you'd like to donate to the upkeep of ET, please press the "Donate" button at ETWeb. ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:13:35 From: Robert Fripp Subject: robert fripp apologises to bob carruthers Dear Mr. Carruthers, I apologise unreservedly for my recent rude, personal & insulting references to yourself that are the subject of your letter of 25th. April. For me to make the claim that you have upset nearly everyone whose music you have, in some way, presented is arrogant & assumptive: how could I possibly know all the artists that Classic Rock Productions have released? My comments were unseemly, immoderate & unacceptable. I appeal to your generosity & magnanimity & hope that you are able to accept this apology in the spirit in which it is offered. I don't control any enthusiast website, but I do send posts, comments & news items to two sites that are historically most directly related to King Crimson - Elephant Talk & Krimson News. This apology has been sent to both and I will encourage them to forward the apology to other sites of related interest. And I don't believe that, once anything has appeared online, it goes away. Someone, somewhere, always has a copy of a post that has been made; some linked site, somewhere, remains unchanged. Once we have sent off a post, then it will persist, somewhere; and if not online, then in someone's personal database. This is clearly beyond my control. I respect your passion for the music & players of your interest, as reflected in your online comments to sites that hold your own passion as fan & enthusiast. Perhaps you will therefore be able to forgive the inappropriate online expression of my own passion, as a player. Although it is impossible for me remove my comments from the internet, what I am able to do is send this apology along the same route as my unseemly comments & ask that it be forwarded on to other sites of related interest. If you wish to make a statement of your own, and I know you are familiar with the process of posting to discussion groups, you may wish to do so from your own initiative; and you have your own CRP site. Alternatively, if you wish to forward a statement to me, I will forward it on in the same way that I make my own postings. The criticisms of your products were all taken from bona fide online criticisms on enthusiast sites. No doubt you have sufficient faith in your work, and are big enough personally, to deal with such consumer criticism as you receive. You also link to critical commentary from your CRP website. Similarly, when I make a post to ET (on whatever subject), this in no way guarantees support for my views from other posters (historically, often the reverse). For example, from ET1205. > Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:01:40 GMT > From: ww55524 > Subject: Inside King Crimson DVD and CD > Inside King Crimson DVD and CD > A statement from Robert Fripp and DGM > >Does anyone else detect the whiff of rampaging hypocrisy from Mr Fripp >hre?. > >His beef with this issue is that it 'scams the artists, the music & the >fans'. I find this a peculiar point of view coming from someone who has >made part of his living by selling bootleg quality versions of King Crimson >concerts, only legitimising is by calling it a 'Collectors Club' in the >hope that the die-hards will fall for it. A number of the releases from the >KC have been close to unlistenable in quality. I suppose no one is >compelling any of us to buy into the KCCC, but then >again no one is compelling anyone to buy from the 'Inside The Music' series >either. > >Then it all becomes clear - > >> Sid Smith writes: >> >> For several months DGM has been undertaking research on producing a > >>compilation of archive video footage of the band in all its > >>incarnations. > >Ah. Right. Now I see. Don't buy *his* dodgy gear. Buy ours instead. > Yours sincerely, Robert Fripp. ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #1206 *********************************