Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #1201 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 1201 Friday, 25 March 2005 Today's Topics: (none) Re: Alternative Tunings New Yorker Article...Jonathan Lethem KCCC #23 - Orlando '72 Re: DGM Product Suggestion "The Crimson Connection" and internet radio Crimson and related releases Re: Fripp & Live Performance Re: the Devil's Advocate "Let there be Light" (was bloody Sinfield) Brian Eno in the Financial Times Discipline Hear "The Crimson Connection" on internet radio... "Exposure" Speaker system Crimsons Don Kirshner show Don't Forget The Magic ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send *all posts* to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com ** Posts intended for the newsletter should have a subject prefix of ETPOST ** Posts intended for an individual newsletter contributor should have a subject prefix of their ET 'Ticket Number', shown at ETxxxxx in their 'From:' line in the newsletter. 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If you'd like to donate to the upkeep of ET, please press the "Donate" button at ETWeb. ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:01:08 +1000 From: Cathy & Tom Purcell Subject: KC photobooks sought I was wondering if there is any photobooks or the like of the vintage King Crimson Line up from 1960-1979? Thankyou Justin Purcell purcell_justin at hotmail dot com Australia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 17:19:05 -0700 (MST) From: Chris Heckman Subject: Re: Alternative Tunings Tim Breen wrote: > I just enjoyed a fabulous show of guitarist Habib Koite and his band > Bambada from Mali. The program notes indicate that he plays his acoustic > guitar with a pentatonic tuning played on open strings ! I suspect that someone had a good joke at your expense. The E-minor pentatonic scale -- E G A B D E -- are the same notes as the open strings of a guitar in standard tuning (E A D G B E). The other possibility is that he retuned the strings to sound the notes E G A B D E in order, low to high. However, that would mean that either the bottom string was tuned up an octave, or the top one down an octave. But I think the first possibility (it's an in-joke for guitarists) is more likely. -- Christopher "HeKcman" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:49:50 -0500 From: Ling & Emory Subject: New Yorker Article...Jonathan Lethem I don't know if anyone is familiar with Jonathan Lethem, but he is a very interesting author. He wrote, "Gun, with Occasional Music" and a bunch of other very interesting novels. I guess I shouldn't be too suprised that a) a New Yorker, and b) a decent novelist has good taste! I wonder if Murakami likes Fripp & Eno. -Emory ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:51:00 -0500 From: Richard Begley Subject: KCCC #23 - Orlando '72 Has anyone gotten the CLub release #23 from Orlando in 1972? If so, how do the sound and performance compare to #2 from Jacksonville? Looking at the dates the Orlando recording is from the next night after Jacksonville, so I'm wondering how worthwhile it is as a purchase? Thanks. RB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 00:11:39 -0500 From: Mike Subject: Re: DGM Product Suggestion A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson Vol. 2? You mean The 21st Century Guide To King Crimson Vol. 2 right? Unless they're changing the name? A bonus DVD would be nice. I would love to see some live footage from 1973-74, if any actually exists. A documentary on the band might get a little silly with all the personal changes the band has endured. It might look like Spinal Tap! Cheers, Mike (who is turning his amp up to eleven) http://community.webtv.net/thedukeofprunes/ALLTHINGSCRIM/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:29:38 -0800 (PST) From: Vince Font Subject: "The Crimson Connection" and internet radio Hello fellow Crimson fans! I'm brand new to the list and wanted to say hello--my name is Vince Font and I'm the co-host of an internet radio show called "Prog'opolis" that centers around a show feature called "The Crimson Connection"--where we celebrate the goodness that was (is, and always shall be) King Crimson--and we explore the varied side projects and collaborations of the band members throughout the years. The show is on live every Saturday night from 7-10pm (PST) and it would be great if you could tune in (you can also listen on archive anytime). I'd also like to enlist the help of my fellow Crimson fans with any recommendations you could make for "The Crimson Connection"--since there's literally about a thousand different bands you could feature that are somehow connected to KC. Just a thought, I hope I'm not rambling and I hope it's okay if I post the playlist here each week. Me and my co-host Daisy Jane do the show only for fun, so there's no monetary gain to be made here. Just sharing in the Crimson joy! Listen to "PROG'OPOLIS" every Saturday night, 7-10pm PST for the best in classic and contemporary progressive rock. Listen live or catch the archive anytime at http://www.thedividingline.com/p.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:48:28 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: Crimson and related releases Hi, folks: Here's some info from the latest Artist Shop Newsletters that might be of interest to Crimson= fans. Our Top 50 for January included the following placements: 3. King Crimson In the Court of the Crimson King (Original Master) 4. 21st Century Schizoid Band Live in Japan DVD 7. McDonald & Giles McDonald & Giles 16. Belew, Adrian Side One 31. King Crimson In the Wake of Poseidon (rm w/mini LP sleeve) 38. King Crimson Starless and Bible Black (rm w/mini LP sleeve) 44. King Crimson Beat (remastered w/mini LP sleeve) 45. Bears, The Car Caught Fire 46. King Crimson Discipline (remastered w/mini LP sleeve) Coming soon from Noisy Records David Cross/Closer than Skin ....import CD In contrast to earlier David Cross CD's, mixing vocal and instrumental tracks 'Closer than Skin' was conceived from the start as a 'book of songs'. With music by David Cross and bassist Mick Paul the album's lyrics have been written by Richard Palmer-James who wrote the words for King Crimson's 'Larks Tongues in Aspic', 'Starless and Bible Black' and 'Red' albums. The album features newcomers Arch Stanton (a singer from Dublin who makes it all sound easy, negotiating the often difficult vocal lines with a relaxed sophistication) and Lloyd on drums (who underpins the everchanging musical scenario with a calm authority). The other musicians surviving from previous albums are David (prominent on electric violin), Paul Clark (on blazing rock guitar) and Mick (solid and singable) on bass. The contrasts evident in earlier work are drawn even more clearly in these songs, hard edged riffs sitting next to soft choruses, but the words of Richard Palmer-James constantly challenge our confidence in the persona presented. Identity is repeatedly confused so that we never know if the feelings are real or if they're 'Only Fooling' (track 4). Other David Cross CD's available from Noisy Records include: Radius/Civilizations ....import CD David Cross/The Big Picture ....import CD David Cross/Exiles ....CD David Cross/Testing for Destruction ....import CD Coming soon from Discipline King Crimson/In The Wake Of Poseidon - 30th Anniversary Edition (gem case) The second album from rock icons King Crimson, this version contains two additional tracks from the last version which was remastered in 1999, including a different version of Cat Food and its original b-side, Groon. Still available while quantities last King Crimson/In the Wake of Poseidon (mini-LP sleeve version) Special limited edition of the legendary English prog rock group's phenomenal second album in deluxe packaging. Digitally remastered by Robert Fripp himself using 24 bit technology plus HDCD encoding, they come in unique, limited edition, cardboard stock gatefold sleeve just as the original vinyl LP's with the original artwork & sleeve notes intact. soundbite - Coming soon from Summerfold & Winterfold Records Bill Bruford/Feels Good To Me ....import CD Following his tenure with Genesis, Bill Bruford recorded his debut album as a leader-- "Feels Good To Me," released 1978. Considered a solo album, it predated the official start of the band "Bruford" although it features musical performances from many of the musicians who would go on to work with Bill full-time in that group.=A0 The album features a number of key tracks including the instrumental tracks Beelzebub and Sample And Hold. Vocalist Annette Peacock contributes vocals to four tracks and a co-writing credit on the track "Adios a la Pasada" (Goodbye To The Past). Elsewhere the album features performances from keyboardist Dave Stewart, bassist Jeff Berlin, guitarists Allan Holdsworth and John Goodsall (Brand X) and flugelhorn player Kenny Wheeler.=A0 This re-issue of Feels Good To Me has been re-mastered and also includes a bonus track in the form of an unreleased version of Joe Frazier. As with all the albums in the Winterfold series of releases, Feels Good To Me comes re-packaged with a bonus disc containing music from the contrasting Summerfold catalogue and an exclusive interview with Bill Bruford. Bill Bruford's Earthworks/Earthworks ....import CD Early 1987 Bill Bruford decided to form the band Earthworks. The band would be something different in jazz circles however as it would feature electronic drums rather than the traditional acoustic set of drums normally found in a jazz band. Earthworks Mark 1 also featured horn players Django Bates and Iain Ballamy alongside upright bassist Mick Hutton who was subsequently replaced by Tim Harries.=A0 The acoustic front line of Bates, Ballamy and Hutton was a strong and powerful contrast to the electronic percussion supplied by Bill Bruford and the band received many critical plaudits.=A0 The debut Earthworks album features a number of key tracks including My Heart Declares A Holiday and Bridge Of Inhibition. The Summerfold imprint was launched in October 2003 to provide an outlet for Earthworks recordings both old and new.=A0 This recording of the debut Earthworks album has been re mastered and includes two bonus tracks: All Heaven Broke Loose and A Stone's Throw. As with other albums in the Summerfold series of releases, Earthworks comes re-packaged with a bonus disc containing music from the contrasting Winterfold catalogue and an exclusive interview with Bill Bruford. Newly released from Summerfold Bill Bruford/The Sound of Surprise ....import CD The third release from Bill on his new Summerfold imprint is actually a re release of the sixth Earthworks album entitled The Sound of Surprise recorded in 2001. =A0 Following a gruelling, profitable, well organised and frequently hilarious 18 date tour of the UK, covering, remarkably, some 3000 miles, Bill took the band into Livingston Studios in London for four days to record "The Sound of Surprise."=A0 With essentially the same team as= recorded "A Part, And Yet Apart," the new CD has nine full-blooded tracks of hard-hitting acoustic jazz weighing in at some 63 minutes, and represents the fruit of some 9 months focused endeavour, with work starting on the writing in January 2000. soundbite - Also on our new Summerfold page musicians or aspiring musicians will find links to Bill Bruford instructional tools Bill Bruford - When in Doubt, Roll Percussion. Size 9x12 inches. 136 pages. Published by Modern Drummer Publications. Bruford & The Beat Video Performed by Bill Bruford. Edited by Tim Landers. Video (NTSC video). Published by Warner Brothers. Coming soon from Caroline Brian Eno Original Masters-The Soundtrack Series He co-wrote with David Bowie on Low, Heroes and Lodger, was a founding member of Roxy Music, as well as the producer for U2, Talking Heads, Devo and many, many more.=A0 In the mid '80's Eno moved away from the sparser sounds of his ambient albums, creating more melodic instrumental pieces like those that first appeared on Another Green World. It is during this period that Brian Eno, together with Daniel Lanois, began his collaboration with U2 as their producer. Each CD features deluxe digipak packaging housed in a clear O-card and will have brand new digital transfers using the latest state-of-the-art technology with Eno's original master tapes as the source. The transfers from the original masters has been undertaken with great care by Simon Heyworth using 'Class A' analogue electronics combined with the best analogue to digital conversion. No attempt has been made to re-equalize, remix or in any way tamper with or alter the original EQ'ed analogue production masters. These are the Original Masters as Brian Eno intended them to be heard! Brian Eno/Music for Films (Original Master) An album of medodic sound environments that eno created as imaginary film soundtracks. The music echoes the latter half of Eno's Before and After Science. Features Phil Collins, Robert Fripp, John Cale, Percy Jones, and= more. Brian Eno/Apollo: Atmosphere and Soundtracks (Original Master) Music originally recorded in 1983 for the Academy Award nominated Apollo 11 moon mission documentary 'For All Mankind.' Eno's best selling album after Music for Airports. Daniel Lanois' distinctive pedal guitar work heard on Apollo became a major influence on U2's The Edge. Features the often heard piece "An Ending (Ascent)" that has been used in many soundtracks including the Academy Award winning Traffic and 28 Days Later. Brian Eno/Thursday Afternoon (Original Master) A 61 minute long spacious and contemplative piece of ambient music that Eno recorded to take advantage of the extended length of the CD format. Brian Eno/More Music for Films (Original Master) A first time ever CD release of a specially created 22 track album. More Music for Films combines the extremely hard-to-find Music for Films Volume 2 album (only released on vinyl as a part of the long out-of-print 1983 Working Backwards LP box set), together with 11 additional, never before commercially available tracks taken from the exceptionally rare, promo-only sampler (limited to just 500 copies) that was originally sent only to a select group of film directors. Features Daniel Lanois, Michael Brook and Roger Eno. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:54:57 +0000 From: Steve Rogers Subject: Re: Fripp & Live Performance How about The Beatles? Their most creative work was done after they stopped touring. Maybe Robert Fripp will be able to focus on new projekcts without the distraction. In any case. he has given us plenty already. Although I was rather looking forward to seeing KC live for the first time, it won't kill me to move on! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:43:40 -0600 From: J F Lehman Subject: Re: the Devil's Advocate Greetings, Frippsters, I just wanted to chime in on Jim's suggestion that any further live Frippery would have to be invitation only. I had much the same idea. The ticket is very much a contract, so it could clearly state that unwelcome devices would be confiscated for donation to charity and their bearers summarily ejected, also. As I promise to leave my camera, recorders and "autograph pens" home, I would very much appreciate getting such an invite, too... :) John *still hoping for that "world tour of Nashville," since I could get there from Memphis* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:18:48 -0500 From: David R. Griffiths Subject: "Let there be Light" (was bloody Sinfield) I believe I have decoded "let there be light" ("Drivers Eyes" Ian McDonald music, Peter Sinfield lyrics, also on the 21st Centruey Schizoid Band live in Japan DVD). There was a film of the same name made by John Huston on the psychiatric treatment of war veterans. Reviewers have commented that the film contains irony and it was banned by the US Army until 1980 after Vice President Mondale intervened to release it. What Sinfield is getting at I believe is the human spirit behind all this horror, that is, through the filter of insanity yet still resident in its most basic form. http://www.wneptheater.org/_html/LTBL_Review.html is a useful review of the film. Cheers, Dave from Downunder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:53:27 -0600 From: Alexander Domrin Subject: Brian Eno in the Financial Times "Musician Brian Eno" was mentioned in the Financial Times (March 5/6, 2005, page W1) among other British celebrities who on Nov. 24, 2004 participated in a press conference in the House of Commons annexe demanding resignation of Tony Blair. Alexander Domrin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:14:39 +0100 From: Grial_de_la_Pena Subject: Discipline Hello, my name is Almudena I live in Madrid and i'm trying to find the book of "Discipline". I had been all the day asking in shops and none has the book. I would thank you if you could tell me where I can found it or the plublishing house and the year. Thank you very much for your attention. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:33:55 -0800 (PST) From: Vince Font Subject: Hear "The Crimson Connection" on internet radio... "Prog'opolis!" is an internet radio show on The Dividing Line Broadcast Network (www.thedividingline.com) that features "The Crimson Connection" among loads of other classic and contemporary progressive rock. The below is the latest playlist from the show, which airs every Saturday night from 7-10pm (PST). You can also catch the archive right now online. "Another fun-filled night of progressive rock goodness, and just what the progtologist ordered--anyone who missed last night's show is advised to catch the archive if you know what's good for you. The fourth installment of "Prog'opolis!" broke new ground and revisited old tried and true territory. Not content with last week's momentary audio dropout, we decided to try it again--this time for an entire minute in the middle of the broadcast. Afterward, Vince claimed it was unintentional and threatened to play John Vanderslice's song "Bill Gates Must Die"--an idea that was quickly (and smartly) put down by the more rational mind of Daisy Jane. A kewpie doll to the first person who can correctly quote the moment in the show (to the hour;minute;second) where dropout occured. Come feast your ears on the aural wonderments that await you on the archive. We got yer prog rock. We got yer "Camel Break". We got yer kickass "Crimson Connection". We got your Vienna Teng fix. And last but in NO way least, we got to premiere a brand-spanking new track by the one and only Shawn Bishop (under the pseudonym Unity Gain). Apparently the guy likes Daisy Jane enough to have named a song for her, and everyone who heard agreed the result was nothing short of AMAZING! Check it all out here......." http://www.thedividingline.com/p.html Prog'opolis! playlist, 3.12.05 - Show IV Queen - Innuendo (6.27) Prog'opolis Intro (0.42) Lightspeed - Breath Away (3.55) U.K. - Nothing To Lose (3.57) Porcupine Tree - Gravity Eyelids (7.56) Eloy - Poseidon's Creation (11.43) John Vanderslice - They Won't Let Me Run (3.52) Spock's Beard - The Ballet Of The Impact (5.34) Planet P Project - Why Me (4.06) Saga - Don't Be Late (6.00) **CAMEL BREAK** Camel - Rhayader Goes To Town (5.20) Camel - Sanctuary (1.05) Camel - Fritha (1.19) Camel - The Snow Goose (3.12) Camel - Hopeless Anger (4.55) Camel - Unevensong (5.34) Genesis - The Chamber Of 32 Doors (5.40) Richard Wright - Summer Elegy (4.54) Vienna Teng - Gravity (3.39) Elbow - Red (5.13) **THE CRIMSON CONNECTION** King Crimson - The Great Deceiver (4.02) Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Karn Evil 9, 2nd Impression (7.07) David Sylvian & Robert Fripp - 20th Century Dreaming (A Shaman's Song) (11.36) Gong - Shadows Of (7.48) Unity Gain - Daisy Daisy (8.28) Air - Biological (6.06) Listen to "PROG'OPOLIS!" every Saturday night from 7-10pm (PST) and catch 'The Crimson Connection', a weekly feature celebrating the vast musical history of King Crimson. Camel fan? Get aload of 'Camel Break' and come revel in the aural wonders of Andrew Latimer and company. Listen live or catch the archive anytime at http://www.thedividingline.com/p.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:42:21 -0000 From: Stephen Goodman Subject: "Exposure" Hi folks, I had the LP version of "Exposure" circa 1981, and remember being a bit peeved upon hearing that the CD version circa 1989 or so was re-mixed. I ran to the ever-beloved PooBah's in Pasadena and snatched up what turned out to be a CD release of "Exposure" that was as the LP had been. I was somewhat confused but also glad to have the original in a less-destructable format. Sometime in the mid-90s I had to replace the CD, as it was nicked during a party. [sigh!] So I returned to my favorite CD store and bought what turned out to be the re-mixed version of "Exposure", which I actually liked quite a lot. I didn't however have a CD copy of the original anymore, and continue to lust after this item. Recently I found my way outside the realm of legal-tapers P2P and downloaded what seems to be another version of the song "Exposure", WITH the great looped vocal by one of the Roche sisters, but WITHOUT her going "HAH!" at the end. It's not cut off or anything, as Mr Fripp's signature loop continues to its regular end. So what's up with that then? Are there three or more versions of "Exposure" out there? Did I encounter a version of the song ripped from a Collector's Club release? This community's thoughts are as usual quite valued. Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * http://www.medialinenews.com * * "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!" - L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations" * * http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com - http://www.xenu.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:43:15 +0100 From: Dan Jonsson Subject: Speaker system Does anyone know what kind of speaker amplifiersystem Mr Robert Fripp uses? I'm getting tired of my Roland Jazz Chorus Combo. Dan Jonsson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:15:42 +0100 (CET) From: Lars Brondum Subject: Crimsons Don Kirshner show Does anyone know if an officially release of Don Kirshner's rock shows ever will surface on DVD. One especially relevant show includes 1973 King Crimson performing Easy Money, a blow and excerpt from LTIA II. There is also one with Mahavishnu Orchestra from '72 that would be mouthwatering to see. P.S. If this has been recently posted sorry. /Lars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 8:16:17 -0500 From: guitrpickr Subject: Don't Forget The Magic Thank you for the opportunity to write. We spend so much time concentrating on NSTs, song meanings, and "who-belongs-in-KC-and-who-doesn't" that I believe we forget the one ingredient that makes all this click: the "magic". I was a music education major at a local college here in TN and I had the joy to study and absorb the classical guitar. In the midst of one of my lessons, I was playing Bach, and I "slipped" into some phrasing that resembled LTiA and my instructor stopped me and asked me what I was doing. I briefly explained where the notes and phrasing came from. At the end of the session, I promised to bring my LTiA and 'Starless and Bible Black' albums. I did..and the lessons from then on were "magic". I have 3 daughters, 2 of which are now 21 and 18. All have been exposed to Crimson music at an early age, even to the point that when my oldest was only 2, I would play "Three Of A Perfect Pair", and she would run to the blaring speakers and break into one of her "interpretive" dance moves. The moment was "magic". Just recently my 81 year old mom came to visit. One morning I unashamedly put my "Eyes Wide Open" DVD into the player and sat back to see her reaction. She had been raised in country and bluegrass all her life and so to see her reaction was quite beautiful. She said "Mark, I don't quite understand what's happening here, but I like it...tell me more about the gentleman sitting on the stool and playing his guitar..." The moment was "magic". My other daughter, who is now 3, for a long time refused to get ready for her bedtime until I played "Dinosaur". She would then start singing "...somebody's digging my 'bumps'..." the moment, again, was "magic". You see, I am proud of my upbringing in the KC realm. I still to this day will never forget my reaction to the first notes of "21st Century.." and made a declaration that my music, my compositions, my way of thinking musically would never be the same..that was nearly 30 years ago..and it still is "magic". I invite other ETers to share the same. Mark Garrett guitrpickr at bellsouth dot net ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #1201 *********************************