Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #1171 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 1171 Saturday, 21 February 2004 Today's Topics: NEWS: The Punter's Tale. . . NEWS: Andrew Keeling Musical Guide to "In The Wake Of Poseidon" launch Robert Fripp, article, photo Re: cover art to TPTB - t-shirt Question about ProjecKt Two - Live Groove KC on TV (Again) The ProjeKcts Crim related for sale Trey Gunn`s *excellent* solo output Re: A Blessing of Tears Sounds like... Crimson Verses A Black Hole Gargantua Andrew Keeling Musical Guide to "In The Wake Of Poseidon" launch details Re: Fergus Hall Interesting relevant modern music Third Hello Fripp & Eno Emmanuelle Excellent material for Private Eye Indirizzo Email non attivo Fripp & Bjork, etc. Crimson Singer Poll Time/Shift: Prog Rock Redux a post for everyone Re: mix tapes FIN DE SIECLE - end of the century KC DVD releases Andrew Keeling Musical Guide to "In The Wake Of Poseidon" launch details King Crimson Japanese mini's The Royal (again) Jamie Muir's thumb piano? broadcast KC live concert ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.shtml You can read the most recent ten editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Mike Dickson (ET Newsletter distribution/subscriptions) Nadim S. Haque (ET Webmaster) Toby Howard (ET founder and Newsletter Moderator) Dan Kirkdorffer (ET Webmaster Emeritus) The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.7b. If you'd like to donate to the upkeep of ET, please press the "Donate" button at ETWeb. ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:00:16 EST From: ASidSmith at aol dot com Subject: NEWS: The Punter's Tale. . . The Punter's Tale. . . Were you at Hyde Park in 1969 when a little known support act took to the stage? Did you catch KC return to the boards in 1971? Were you sitting in the Zoom Club when Jamie Muir started climbing the stacks? Can you recall your reaction the first time Adrian Belew started duelling guitars with Robert Fripp? How excited were you to be in Buenos Aires to see KC ten years after the band walked off the stage in Montreal? Were you standing slack-jawed in surprise at Shepherds Bush Empire when the Double Trio launched into Schizoid Man? How about the ProjeKcts in all their fleeting glory? Or what about seeing the Double Duo sharing the bill with Tool? Let's face seeing King Crimson on stage is always a significant event and not one you're likely to forget in hurry. Well, those nice people at DGM want to you to put pen to paper (as it were) and then read your eye-witness accounts of the great beast in concert. The highlights of your outpourings will be featured on the soon-to-be-arriving DGM web site when it goes live in the not too distant future! Have you got a ticket stub or some other souvenir from the gig that would be of interest to other KC enthusiasts? Perhaps you've got some photographs you'd like to share with the wider world? Did your local newspaper write a review about the time when Crimso came to town? Or is there a KC concert not mentioned in either Frame By Frame or In The Court of King Crimson's gigography but which you were at and remember well? If the answer is yes to any of the above then this is your chance to make an important contribution to DGM's new and exciting online development. Please note that this project is being co-ordinated by KC biographer, Sid Smith. Rather than contacting the usual online sources for DGM, please get in touch with Sid directly on asidsmith at aol dot com Best wishes, Sid Sid Smith's Diary visit In The Court of King Crimson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:41:53 -0000 From: Subject: NEWS: Andrew Keeling Musical Guide to "In The Wake Of Poseidon" launch details Andrew Keeling Musical Guide to King Crimson, Volume 2 - In The Wake Of Poseidon SGLMG002 published by Spaceward Graphics Ltd Price #12.75 (+ VAT + postage & packing) from www.inthewakeofposeidon.ukf.net and DGM What is it? It is a limited edition CD-ROM for PC and Mac - the second in a series of informative, insightful, interactive musical guides by Andrew Keeling to the secret mechanics that power the mysterious music of King Crimson. It is generously illustrated with photographs and musical notation diagrams that you simply click with your mouse to play using your computer's sound card. In addition to an analysis there's a not-to-be-missed, full study-score of 'In The Wake Of Poseidon' that you can play, print out and keep featuring a lead vocal by 21st Century Schizoid Band's Jakko Jakszyk. Plus there's a complete (electronic) copy of "The Magic Circle" by Tammo de Jongh (previously out of print for 30 years!) and a full copy of Andrew Keeling's arrangement of Robert Fripp's 'lost' string quartet - "Peace". a.. Over 17,000 words b.. 11 photographs (many previously unpublished) c.. More than 40 resolution independent, multimedia, 'musical' illustrations* - see samples here d.. Exclusive Extra Feature - Full score and synthetic performance of "In The Wake Of Poseidon* featuring lead vocals by Jakko Jakszyk e.. Exclusive Extra Feature - First re-publication in over 30 years of "The Magic Circle" and other writings and artworks by Tammo de Jongh and Richard Gardner f.. Exclusive Extra Feature - "Peace - a String Quartet". Andrew Keeling's arrangement of Robert Fripp's 'lost' string quartet is exclusively presented as a full music score and is performed by Mr McFall's Chamber. g.. Exclusive Extra Feature - "In The Wake Of Poseidon: The Coming Of The Archetypes" - an audio-visual essay by Neil Ingram that explores the underlying themes that suffuse and inform In The Wake Of Poseidon. *Comes complete with all necessary software to view and play score This is a scholastic yet accessible work. Andrew Keeling's credentials as composer and academic are impeccable and he will be well-known to King Crimson enthusiasts as DGM recording artist and erstwhile diarist. Keeling's powerful, challenging ideas are given full throat by Mark Graham's brilliant, interactive, multimedia illustrations.This guide takes you through all the complexities of the music, stripping away layer after layer to reveal the inner workings of the exquisite machinery of harmony, counterpoint and rhythm that, seemingly so effortlessly, go together to make: In The Wake Of Poseidon. "No self-respecting Crim-head worthy of the name can afford to be without this." "Overshadowed by its illustrious predecessor and often overlooked by fans, In The Wake Of Poseidon can be regarded as King Crimson's forgotten album. Now, nearly thirty four years after its release, Andrew Keeling casts an inquisitive eye on this tantalising and intriguing gem. The musical and lyrical structures of the album are probed and explored, as are the influences that came to play in the writing and recording of this album. Nothing that went into the making of King Crimson's second release escapes Keeling's thoughtful and provocative consideration. The collectors taste buds will also be whetted by Keeling's beautiful arrangement of Peace for string quartet as well a stunning recreation of the title track featuring a stirring vocal performance by Jakko Jakszyk. No self-respecting Crim-head worthy of the name can afford to be without this" Sid Smith, author of "In The Court of King Crimson" Order your copy now! For PC and Mac - System Requirements (PC) Operating System: Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP CPU Type: P2 or better Hard Drive Space: 300MB Memory: 64MB (128MB recommended) Graphics: Any DirectX 6.1 or better compatible graphics card CD-ROM Speed: 4x or faster Audio: Any DierctX 6.1 or better compatible sound card ~ Spaceward Graphics Ltd are developers and suppliers of Satori FilmFX (www.satoripaint.com), which is award-winning, resolution-independent, paint and image-editing software. The Spaceward brand will also be familiar to music fans - in the 70's and 80's Spaceward Studios was the location for the recording of many classic albums and singles as the discography at www.spacewardstudios.ukf.net attests. ~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 14:32:44 +0100 From: "barbara loyer" Subject: Robert Fripp, article, photo Bonjour, Je suis un poete espagnol; j'habite a Paris depuis dix ans. Parfois je prends un peu de temps pour rediger quelques articles musicaux. Je publie en effet mensuellement pour un journal (Bilbao) de mon pays un texte qui essaye d'etre le portrait biographique et artistique d'un musicien. Mon choix esthetique est tres large (jazz, rock, Renaissance, Baroque, etc.). Et maintenant, je vous demande votre aide. J'ai mis sur ma liste le nom de ROBERT FRIPP et j'ai besoin d'une photo (peu importe qu'elle soit en noir el blanc) de taille normale. Mon adresse: Francisco Javier Irazoki; 16, rue Saint Sabin; 75011 PARIS. Merci d'avance. Francisco Javier Irazoki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:23:05 -0600 From: "Orr, Charles \"Chip\" G." Subject: Re: cover art to TPTB - t-shirt In ET 1167, a poster commented on the odd comments he or she receives when wearing a t-shirt with TPTB cover art. I too have that t-shirt, and my wife prefers that I not wear it at all. I have suggested to her that it is a poignant painting that, for me, reflects the persistence of hope in the face of a world seemingly intent on crushing hope. She ain't buying it. She worries that I will bump into clients (I practice law) and that the shirt will cause offense, or that children will see it and not understand. I don't share this concern, as I figure it's not my job to refrain from giving offense in such matters and in any event I find the art uplifting, particularly as a proud Dad. Not to worry, though. We aren't headed to divorce court over a t-shirt or anything. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:22:25 -0500 From: freissig at metguild dot org (Fred Reissig) Subject: Question about ProjecKt Two - Live Groove Hi, I just listened to track 10 - 21st Century Schizoid Man on "Live Groove", the second CD of the four CD set of the ProjeKcts box set. The music stops after 1.57, then at 2.03 a static blip, then interminable silence, then crowd noise calling someone a so and so. What happened here? Did someone take a photograph of Fripp? Much curious, Fred Reissig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 17:30:43 EST From: GORTAY at aol dot com Subject: KC on TV (Again) This strange phenomenom that causes someone to change the tv channel 10 seconds before a King Crimson track is featured has struck again. Tuesday, Feb 9th about 7:10 pm someone switched the tv onto BBC2 and there was King Crimson's "The Night Watch" being played as part of a programme about the Rembrandt painting of the same name. Spooky! Gordon Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:59:46 EST From: Stamperdanny at wmconnect dot com Subject: The ProjeKcts Does any video footage of any variation of the King Crimson footage exist? After listening to "The Roar of P4" and the fairly recent KCCC Cd "ProjeKct One-Live at The Jazz Cafe" I for one would love to see a DVD of performances of any or all of the various ProjeKcts. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 18:15:17 -0500 From: "Fritz Kiffmeyer" Subject: Crim related for sale I have several Crimson related CD's for sale. Email me offline at fritzk at conninc dot com. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 00:46:24 -0600 From: "CRAIG" Subject: Trey Gunn`s *excellent* solo output > It is not the first time that I have heard those criticisms of THE GUNNMAN in connection with his work in KING CRIMSON, so I was not shocked, any more than I would have been shocked if someone had written that they found THIS FRIPP to be pretentious & arrogant. It is possible for me to understand how & why someone might think & feel that way without my sharing their >assessment. Makes no sense to me whatsoever, as I find Trey Gunn`s solo output (especially "Joy of Molybedenum " (sp?) and "One Thousand Years), far more interesting/ superior to any recent KC title in every respect. (Despite the influences from his mentor) His departure is a positive, for him and KC. Time to 'progress'. ....Change is a good thing. ~C NP: Demi Semi Quaver-" (Mash Room) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:26:57 EST From: Stamperdanny at wmconnect dot com Subject: Re: A Blessing of Tears Go to Gemm.com. there are several stores showing it available, new or used. Danny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:40:07 EST From: Wakeofflood at aol dot com Subject: Sounds like... Hello: Don't know if anyone has posted similar before, but do give a band called Tripod a listen. I was very pleasantly surprised (considering that there is no guitar!) Not that easy to get hold of; give www.moonjune.com a go. Apologies if I'm repeating stale info. Bob (not that one!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:01:46 -0000 From: "Simon Godfrey" Subject: Crimson Verses A Black Hole Scientists have discovered the lowest note in the universe. Apparently a black hole in the Perseus cluster hums in B Flat, fifty seven octaves below middle C. I love it when even natural phenomena start playing like Fripp and the boys Link below http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3096776.stm Simon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:49:02 +0100 From: "Zeman" Subject: Gargantua Dear Sir, We are GARGANTUA, a group of young people who has just recorded their first album under the same name. We would like to get you interested in our music. We come from Krakow. We have already been playing for several years experimenting with original hybrid music which is quite challenging to be classified. Some define it as intellectual rock with fusion elements. Some notice the inspiration coming from "Gentle Giant", jazz-rock avant-garde of the 70-ies or King Crimson. Having performed in Krakow's pubs we have gained the group of zealous fans whose enthusiasm made us record this material and present it to the wider audience. Our debutant CD record came out from the Warsaw agency called Ars Mundi (arsmundi at poczta dot onet dot pl) which also takes care of its distribution. You can buy our CD via the Internet ordering it on the following sites: www.rockserwis.pl., www.lynxmusic.pl and www.terra.pl. Presently, we are trying to attract the listeners from abroad. We hope that this material will be quite interesting for you both to listen to and write a review we are so keen on. Attached, please find the translation of the lyrics which constitute an important element of the whole composition. We are aware of the fact that the market potential for such kind of music is rather modest. However, this music still finds its firm place on the border of the music types which makes us believe that numerous King Crimson or Porcupine Tree, or Volapuk fans and listeners may be quite interested in it and find something for themselves. Below, please find the extracts from the reviews we have received so far: David Pearson "Classic Rock Society" Gargantua explode with energy, blending Gentle Giant with Fripp and adding some of Keith Emerson's excesses in an all-too brief excursion of "awkward music" (their term, not mine). Micha3 "Art" Wilczynski Rock Magazine (http://www.rockmagazyn.com/index.php?show=recenzje&cala=4) (...) Complex music and incredibly grasping. Between No-Man, King Crimson and... Listen and judge yourself what should be written in here. A pearl. Grzesiek Kszczotek TERAZ ROCK nr 10 December 2003 Polish Gargantua decided to resurrect the Gentle Giant style and... it appeared to be not bad, not bad at all. If you ask me, lately, it is one of the most absorbing CDs of the so called Polish progrock. Maybe not only Polish.. Adam "kalisz" Kaliszewski ROCKMETAL.PL http://www.rockmetal.pl/recenzje/gargantua-gargantua.html (...) I am glad that there are people out there who would like to play such passe and unfashionable music which does not have many chances to get through to the wider audience but at the same time it is so worthy, revealing its true value only when you listen to it very carefully. Both so complicated and so beautiful. If you are interested in our music, could you, please, send us your post address at gargantua at op dot pl so we can send you our promotional CD. We would be thankful to get your review at: gargantua at op dot pl. Best regards, Bartek Zeman. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:46:40 EST From: CWDGA at aol dot com Subject: Re: Fergus Hall Fergus Hall is alive and well in Scotland. For various reasons he has not produced any paintings for over 10 years, but may do so in future. This he told me last year. In the meantime, look on e-bay or amazon for his beautiful book (which he wrote and illustrated) 'Groundsel' - there is MUCH to be enjoyed by anyone who admires his YPG and CKC paintings. And you'll swear the painting on the back cover was by P J Crook! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:18:19 -0000 From: "Martin Wilson" Subject: Interesting relevant modern music Last week I went to see a band called Oceansize play at a venue called Mr Smiths in Bournemouth in Dorset, England. I woud seriously recommed their album called "Effloresce" - Many of the themes running through the album will be very familiar to KC fans but this band operate with three guitarists and on occasion they revert to four guitarists. They write some seriously original music which is very powerful, particularly on songs like "Catalyst". It is very rare that I would recommend that you buy a CD by a band you have never hear of. This is that occasion. You will not be disappointed PS when will KC play in Dorset? Love to you all Martin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:18:24 -0500 From: keithu6 at comcast dot net Subject: Third Hello I would appreciate it greatly if someone could give me the information regarding the most recent Fripp and Toyah article in Hello magazine. It was the third time they were featured in the magazine. Date and edition number of magazine etc. Thank you very much. Keith Ungaro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:00:39 -0600 From: "Hynek Dvorak" Subject: Fripp & Eno I see from Bob's diary, that after a long ass delay, the third installment of this collaboration is near completion. Does anyone know if the first two discs are slated for remastering? I know that we got The Essential Fripp & Eno, but that came out ten years ago, and they made the faux pas of substituting Healthy Colours for An Index of Metal. What about Eno's catalog? A few years back, I read that Virgin was giving his back catalog the deluxe reissuing treatment. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:35:13 -0000 From: "Howard Lane" Subject: Emmanuelle Has anybody heard else the awful Emmanuelle soundtrack version of Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part 2? The circumstances of how I came to be listening to this record are too horrific to recall, and a very long time ago, but I was shocked when I suddenly recognised a very pedestrian rendition of some sections of the track. I could find no reference to Robert Fripp or King Crimson on the album sleeve. It seemed to be a pure rip off. This may be an old chestnut to Crimsonites, but I have never heard of any attempt at redress for this blatant plagiarism. The movie itself was quite a soft porn success and spawned a number of sequels, but I never heard any other soundtracks, thank God. Arnold Lane, London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 16:17:47 +0100 From: "d b " Subject: Fripp & Bjork, etc. Dear Joerg, whoever it was that Joerg quoted and everyone else... I'm totally unfaimiliar with Bjork, but I remember Fripp once mentioned in his diary that Bjork had been asking for copyright permission to do a cover version of a song off 'Exposure' and that Fripp was very happy about this and complimentary towards her. I can't remember which song it was and I've no idea which Bjork album it is likely to be on. If only Fripp's diary was a searchable archive! I don't know the original context of the remark about Fripp & Bjork, but my appreciation of David Torn and Mick Karn has led me on to get hold of a great Natacha Atlas album (she sang on Karn's 'Tooth Mother album'). For fans of Annette Peacock's work on Bruford's 'Feels Good to Me' album I should mention that I think she's still releasing albums (on the prestigious ECM label!) although I haven't checked it out. Happy Crimsonising, Daniel. P.S. - Watch out for those exciting copies of Larks/Starless/Red signed by Cross/Fripp/Wetton/Bruford/Palmer-James soon to be auctioned by bartleybutsford on Ebay!! > > >"But there are plenty of excellent female singers and composers around. Imagine an album >with Fripp and Bjork." > Regarding this remark from Mats, this is a quote from Bjork, taken out of the booklet of her "live box" (talking about her earlier favorite musicians): "If there was a guitarist, it was Robert Fripp. That was more my department". :o) Greetings, Joerg Lycos recommends Cheapflights for all your travel needs. Go to http://www.cheapflights.co.uk/?source=lycosgen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: thedukeofprunes at webtv dot net (Mike) Subject: Crimson Singer Poll Hi CrimFanatics, I would like to start a poll on my website which everyone and anyone who is a fan of KC can participate. My site on KC can be found at http://community.webtv.net/thedukeofprunes/ALLTHINGSCRIM I would like to start a series of polls and hopefully with enough participation from all you Crimson fans, I will put them on my site. The first poll I would like to start is a King Crimson Singer Poll. Who is your favorite vocalist that has been in or is still in KC? Is it Adrian Belew, John Wetton, Boz Burrell, Gordon Haskell, or Greg Lake? Some may say why isn't Jon Anderson in this poll. He isn't because he only contributed vocals to one song by KC. I hope to get a big response from this post (that is up to you...hint hint nudge nudge). You may email me at thedukeofprunes at webtv dot net if you wish to participate. Thanks. Cheers, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:28:52 -0000 From: "Alan Gent" Subject: Time/Shift: Prog Rock Redux Well, I have to take both sides on this one. On the one hand, I do agree that Stuart McConie is a wanker. This on the basis that he consistently puts himself about as a frontline commentator of music that was happening when he wasn't even born. if there was ever a man attempting to jump on a bandwagon that had left town it is he. Mr Goodman, I'm sorry our journalists give you so much pain, There must also be rogue journalists in the US, but like everything, its best not to tar all our worthy boys with the same brush, you do after all seem like an intelligent sort of man. I do disagree that journalists would be the reason KC do not tour here. Perhaps we should ask RF for his own reasons? Alan www.alangent.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:33:40 +0000 From: "Antonio Maria Correia" Subject: a post for everyone hello everyone. this is about the criticism to KC members, past and present. there is certainly room for criticism, but i feel that many of you are missing the point. i dont know how you can enjoy their music if you keep attacking some of the things that make it so special. Pat's work has been superb. who cares if he flails his arms? his creativity through the usage of traps and setting them off before they hit the compass are conceptually very innovative - like playing electronics in an more biological way, so to speak. trey's work isn't supposed to be that of a normal bass player. if you don't get that, why do you even bother listening to bands that aren't mainstream. Antonio Maria Correia Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:47:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Bryce Sutherland Subject: Re: mix tapes >Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:48:16 -0800 >From: "Scott Steele" >Subject: mix tapes >I've enjoyed reading the contents of everyone's mix tapes, particularly >this one: >>Side 1 >>1. Fracture (Starless & Bible Black) >>2. Red (Red) >>3. Dig Me (Three Of A Perfect Pair) >>4. Level 5 (The Power To Believe) >>5. Starless (Red) >>6. RF Exposure Medley: Preface, NY3, Postscript, Haaden Two >>Side 2 >>1. VROOOM VROOOM (THRAK) >>2. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (Part IV) (Happy EP) >>3. ELP - Toccata (Brain Salad Surgery) >>4. Dangerous Curves (The Power To Believe) >>5. The Power To Believe IV: Coda (The Power To Believe) >because it was made by a young fan: >>Bryce (17-year-old King Crimson fan from Scotland) >You have tremendous taste, sir. Are you a musician? - S. I've played guitar for just over three years, keyboards for a little longer and vocals for about 6 months. I'm in an old-school metal band with some like-minded people, but no one seems to be into King Crimson etc at my age. I find that ET is the only place where I can share ideas with KC/RF et al fans. I'm relatively new to the music of King Crimson, but I can't get enough of it. When/if I ever get accepted into a university I'm hoping to meet some fellow musicians who are into the same kind of material. In a metal band we're fairly restricted as to how dissonant and wild we can get. And thanks for the compliment, Mr. Steele. Bryce PS: I have a short piano improv track I made one day, if anyone's interested in hearing it, e-mail me. BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save #80 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:58:35 -0600 From: wviland at thin-film dot com Subject: FIN DE SIECLE - end of the century Thanks Robert for kicking me. I have been enjoying P.J Crook's website presenting much of her fine art as a result. ============================= In my painting FIN DE SIECLE I make reference to the historic tradition of religious icons particularly the image of the Madonna and Child which for two millennia has held such an important place in western art, where this vision of motherhood which over the centuries has offered a role model of unconditional and tender love. The Madonna in my painting is shown wearing her traditional blue, a colour often also associated with the nurse but transformed into a somewhat disturbing and surreal figure by the addition of the gas mask. As a mother myself I was equally disturbed by reports through the media during the Gulf War of Israeli families having to wear gas masks during the Iraqi scud missile attacks. It struck me that it would have been very distressing for babes and infants to see their parents transformed into these frightening elephantine creatures. Thus the image of their mothers that would normally be associated with love and affection, could in fact become the opposite. A mothers greatest fear is that anything should harm the children she has lovingly nurtured and protected through infancy and childhood. Those mothers whose sons make the ultimate sacrifice, losing their lives fighting for country or ideal, know the anguish that the madonna also suffered. Thus the threat of war and conflict to her young is abhorrent to her. The infant here is not only making reference to the infant Christ but also symbolic of the new century and the world which is under constant threat. Not only the threat of war and famine but also degradation by pollution and overindulgence (symbolised in the predella which makes the bottom panel), the disregard for our natural resources, wildlife and our fellow Man. Again in the tradition of religious painting, there is always the presence of hope and peace symbolised here by the white dove ( frequently the symbol for the Holy Spirit or in modern usage by Chagall and Picasso as a symbol of peace) whereas the crows, living off carrion, are used more usually to evoke fear of death and the aftermath (as in Van Gogh's late paintings and Hammer Horror films). This particular work was painted at the end of 1998 and beginning of 1999 during the Kosovo war. It seemed appalling to me that as we neared the end of the 20th century(hence the title, end of the century) that we were still capable of being as barbaric and greedy in our dealings with our fellow beings as at any one time, looking across the globe there are wars, many of them civil, holding back the progress of mankind. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:34:11 -0000 From: Richard dot Ilett at rnib dot org dot uk Subject: KC DVD releases Dear ET Recently I saw a programme on TV called Top 10 of Prog or words to that effect. Feautured at No 9 were KC. They showed several mouth watering snippets of archive KC film. There was B&W footage of the 69 band at Hyde Park, what appeared to be a concert made for TV of the 72 band WITH JAMIE MUIR in full flo, A segment of a performance of "Starless" - also TV, an interview with Fripp taken around 1975, filmed at a ruined church regarding his decision to "take a year out".... Do you know if there are any plans to make this material available to the public? The Jamie Muir material looks particularly vital - considering the rarity of material that he features in. And surely there must be more....the 1970 Top of the Pops performance for example. Has anyone looked into this? Regards Richard Ilett email: richard dot ilett at rnib dot org dot uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:58:56 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: King Crimson Japanese mini's Hi, folks: For those of you into Japanese mini-LP sleeve releases, they are being reissued again. However, there' seems to be a difference this time. These releases are more accurately reproducing the original LP releases than the first round. The first time around all were released as gatefolds regardless of whether or not they were originally gatefold releases. Not the case this time. Also, they've added a number of titles to be released as mini-LP sleeves for the first time, notably titles that were never released as LP sleeves to begin with. Those are: Absent Friends ConstruKction of Light Nightwatch Vrooom Vrooom Vrooom Anyone who's interested can check these out in the latest Arist Shop Newsletter at . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop dot com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:10 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: crash at cix dot co dot uk (Steve Craddock) Subject: The Royal (again) Well, I just happened to be in the room while the last episode in the current series was on, honest(-ish!), to be rewarded with a brief burst of Moonchild. (There was also some Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, but that's for another mailing list.) Next week sees the return of Heartbeat, and more opportunities. Additionally, I happened to catch an episode from the first series of the unconventional Banzai! and there was a spot about for which Number 1 Toyah had one a gold disk - in the background Epitaph was playing, a slightly curious choice! -Crash- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:54:16 -0800 From: "Reid Black" Subject: Jamie Muir's thumb piano? Hi, Does anyone know what type of thumb/toy piano Jamie Muir uses for the beginning of "Larks' Tongues in Aspic Pt. 1"? Any info would help. Reid ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:30:03 -0800 From: "Maurice Vergeer" Subject: broadcast KC live concert April 10th, dutch radio (radio 4, 4FM in concert) will air the live concert of King Crimson as heard on the North Sea Jazz Festival (of all places) in 2003. Time is not clear. Check the site for updates: http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz/ Best wishes Maurice Vergeer ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #1171 *********************************