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               E L E P H A N T    T A L K

        The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp
              and King Crimson enthusiasts

                       Number 1160

                 Monday, 1 December 2003

Today's Topics:

   "LADIES OF THE ROAD"/"DAVE'S NOT HERE!"
   T-lex reactivated
   Jeff is back !
   "Freebird" Shouting, and its Predecessor(s)
   21st century schizoid band
   21st Century Schizoid Band - Live In Italy
   Re: Freebird
   Photos
   Larks' Birds in Freestick, In the Wake of the Gunn
   LTiA Tiile
   Re: Lark's Tongue Puzzlement
   Re: Trey leaving
   Fripp Live with Bowie 2003

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:40:58 -0500
From: "MALCOLM XERXES" <MALCOLMXERXES at titanrainbow dot com>
Subject: "LADIES OF THE ROAD"/"DAVE'S NOT HERE!"

PARLIAMENT OF PACHYDERMS:

     If MR. JOHN WETTON were to return to KING CRIMSON, it would not throw
me a curve, but it would give me cause to celebrate the recovery of his
health, as well as his return to making music that challenges his unique
skill as a Live Bassist.

     It would also put me in mind of when I saw & heard BILFORD & THE FISH
onstage together during the YES: UNION Tour.  It worked for me insofar as
being able to witness the interaction between those whom I think & feel to
be
The Definitive YES Roster (ANDERSON, BILFORD, HOWE, SQUIRE, WAKEMAN), but it
was clearly uncomfortable for certain personnel onstage, who variously
ignored each other, played @ each other, rather than With Each Other, & were
impinged upon by each others playing/overplaying.

     To my eyes & ears, MESSRS. TONY KAYE & TREVOR RABIN were redundant on
that tour.  Conversely, I would have been just as happy to have a 2nd & 3rd
ANDERSON/BILFORD/WAKEMAN/HOWE album & tour w/ MR. TONY LEVIN up front in the
mix & present onstage.  For me, this would have represented the best
continued form of YES, given the apparently irreconcilable difference(s)
between BILFORD & THE FISH.

     If MR. GORDON HASKELL were to return to the fold, I would experience
nothing less than Outright Shock.  Having read The Toxic Tome, I doubt that
this would ever happen, given that THIS FRIPP would not alter the range of a
song in KING CRIMSONS then-repertoire in order to accommodate MR. HASKELLS
vocal range.  Also, the fact of MR. HASKELLS Bass & Vox contributions being
replaced on the KING CRIMSON: FRAME BY FRAME Box Set suggested a certain
disinclination on the part of THIS FRIPP to reconcile their respective
issues
w/ each other.

     If MR. GREG LAKE were to return to the fold, I doubt that it would have
anything to do w/ Music, but rather, w/ Making Money.  As a practising
Capitalist, I have no problem w/ this, but as an Audient, the prospect of
yet another single album/single tour (witness EMERSON, LAKE & POWELL) would
occasion a certain emotional detachment from the album & concert, since they
would be as ephemeral as MR. LAKES involvement w/ MR. RINGO STARRS ALL-
STARR BAND.  Again, the issues between MR. LAKE & THIS FRIPP would have to
be resolved, & their contradictory accounts of a post-concert limousine
encounter chronicled by MR. SID SMITH (IN THE COURT OF KING CRIMSON) suggest
the unlikelihood of that ever happening.  What I think would be more likely
is the replacement of MR. PETER GILES in 21st CENTURY SCHIZOID BAND if he
should ever decide that MR. MICHAEL GILES was correct to leave the group,
yet
again.

> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:18:52 -0500
> From: "sportsterrpm1" <sportsterrpm1 at cox dot net>
> Subject: "Thrush" in Boston
>
> Good Evening Hippies,
> What if John Wetton, Gordan Haskell, or Greg Lake came back in this
> oppertune moment? Would that throw you a curve or what ?

     This is the first time that I have ever encountered the term "roadies"
used to denote those women (& occasional men) whom I have heard commonly
referred to as "groupies".  I am glad that KING CRIMSON has female Audients,
whether their interest is musical or sexual, since I find that I enjoy the
vicarious thrill of womens responses to such dark music, as well as the
discussions which arise therefrom.  I would love to be taught by a flower
ladys daughter. ;)

> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:23:39 -0500
> From: "Rich Entrup" <riche at pipeline dot com>
> Subject: GIG REVIEW: November 15th 2003 - Beacon Theatre - New York,
> New

> Roadies:
> And what's with the 40-something roadies?? Girls, these guys are NOT
> the Stones... I just don't see it happening backstage? One actually
> looked like "Velma" from Scooby Doo...... I gave her a "Hey Shaggy"
> on the way out.... They all rushed the stage (left center orchestra
> section) and crouched on the floor for the encore... KC Roadies...
Funny....
>
> Shirts: $40 for a T-shirt? Blow me....

     Also, I find VELMA (& women who are like her) to be incredibly sexy, &
have found her to be so ever since first I began watching SCOOBY DOO
cartoons in 1969.  The fact that she has been made flesh & blood on
celluloid
& incarnated @ a KING CRIMSON concert gives me hope that I shall be able to
realise 2 fantasies @ once. ;)

     This was definitely the funnies thing I have read
since first I joined ELEPHANT TALK in 2000. :D

     GOD, I love you lot!

     I agree that the price of concert T-shirts has made the "fetishisation"
of such events an even more prohibitive enterprise.  This is regrettable,
but
inevitable.  The last shirt I obtained was from the THE CONSTRUkCTION OF
LIGHT Tour, in promotion of that album.  I would have sprung for them all if
I had been able to afford it, but the only choice available to us as
Consumers is to either buy or not buy.  Unfortunately, Rock memorabilia
tends
to be something that one either "gets" In The Moment or one does not, but
always @ the risk of never seeing it again.

Be seeing you!
MALCOLM XERXES
Batterie/Slagwerk
ANOTHER 1000 MILES
http://www.geocities.com/malcolmxerxes/MALCOLM_XERXES_MUSIC.html

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:28:59 +0100
From: Pascal Samain <psamain at aibf dot be>
Subject: T-lex reactivated

Somewhere in Belgium.

Always a bit stupid to speculate about a departure. So T-Lev is reactived:
here's the answer to all anxious questions. Very normal, as long as the
Peter Gabriel shows are about to stop now. The Great Return of The Big
Moustache is a bonus ? I do not know. We'll see. T-Lev is one of the best
bassist ever, but Trey was more than a bassist. Now the other worse news
would be a P@ departure ... He's nothing than extraordinary as a drummer,
richer than Bill. If Adri would leave, yes Steve Wilson would be a good
choice. But Steve will never leave Porcupine Tree. And Porcupine Tree, as
good as it is, still is a step below KC. And if my grand mother had a
moustache, she would be a man. T-Lev maybe ?

Pascal
Belgium

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:34:18 +0100
From: Pascal Samain <psamain at aibf dot be>
Subject: Jeff is back !

Somewhere in Belgium.

Uh yes ! And whynot Jeff beck as a Crimson guitarist ? His last cd called
... "Jeff" exactly sounds like a John Paul Jones one. Elecronic percussion,
loops and all that stuff.

Pascal Samain

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:50:26 -0000
From: "Steve Goodman" <spgoodman at earthlight dot net>
Subject: "Freebird" Shouting, and its Predecessor(s)

In #1159, Jon Buckley <jonbuckley at wideopenwest dot com> put forth:

> The inappropriate shouting of Freebird may have started in Chicago.
> Years ago, popular DJ Kevin Matthews used to mimic the stupid slobs at
> shows yelling for songs by yelling for the wrong songs for the wrong
> bands. Of course he would exhort his listeners to do likewise. Freebird
> became the obvious choice to denote cluelessness. This works on so many
> levels. It's a comment on rock audiences, and especially audiences who
> might actually attend a Skynard show. This is not my doing, I'm just
> reporting, so don't blame me.
> ...
> To be done correctly, one must shout Freebird at a break in the music,
> so as not to disturb playing. When people are applauding is a good
> time. It must be done as if you are a drunken slob who just woke up at
> a concert, but you don't know what concert you're at. Essentially,
> that's the joke.
> <
 
In Chicago, I suppose!  This bit started well outside of Chicago and a bit
before Skynard's time.  While I'm quite sure there were examples of this -
usually someone really tanked up, or perhaps just naturally out of control,
who really loved the band-in-question, standing up in the midst of a pause
and yelling for the favorite song of all time.  Why wouldn't everyone else
agree with THAT, huh?

The song I remember this being a pivot point for is the infamous "Whipping
Post" as done by the Allman Brothers Band.  The times I saw them play
(1972?  1980-81), "Whipping Post" was left for the encore.  People would be
shouting for it, however, from around half-way through the first set.
Depending on where one was, this would have a nearly-incomprehensible
accent to it, combined with whatever altered state the shouter was in.
Most of the time I recall that people would pronounce it "Wipp'n Pos'!",
sometimes even abbreviated to "Wipp - Pos'!"  And usually with one fist in
the air.

The always-to-be-beloved Frank Zappa made a joke about this on his own
level.  After enduring someone yelling "Whipping Post" during what I
understood to be a set of dates - obviously the guy went to all three
nights or something like that (and who wouldn't?  It's FRANK!) - it was
decided to occasionally include the song as part of the encore set.  It can
be seen being performed on the "Does Humor Belong in Music?" video, quite
well actually.

Come the time for the short-lived Skynard period, I believe that yelling
for "Freebird" was indeed not only a joke, but a slur against "Southern
Rock" in general, and Skynard fans in particular.  Maybe it was an age
ridicule thing.  I remember being put off quite a lot at a Grateful Dead
show at Madison Sq. Garden in 1979 (HORRIBLE show!), seeing at my wise old
age of 23 that kids barely 16 were wearing shirts with either "Jerry Garcia
is God", or "Jim Morrison is God" on the back.  And there were so many of
them (I remember thinking they were wannabes at the time), I didn't dare
shout out something.  Or maybe I was just a bit too um, relaxed, heh heh,
to think up something.

Frank Zappa incorporated this type of joke into the show with the inclusion
of "Whipping Post", of course, but the following found its way onto vinyl
and later CD, as if to be an underline.  Halloween 1976, Felt Forum.  A guy
kept standing up on his seat three rows in front of us, yelling
"Yeeeeaaaaaaah, Frrrrank!" and really pissing some of us off.  All the way
through the show this went.  The music was thankfully loud enough to drown
him out, to say nothing of the efforts of the people sitting next to him,
who kept pulling him down off his seat.  I was SO IRRITATED about it as was
a lot of folks in the immediate area.

When the "Live in New York" collection (from '76) was wrenched from the
greedy fists of Warner Bros. and released in '79, one had another example
of FZ's either treatment or affection for fan adoration of this sort: You
can hear the same guy at the end of the "Black Page" tracks, yelling
"Yeeeeaaaaaaah, Frrrrank!"  I recently had contact from my first full-time
girlfriend who went to the shows with me, and told her to get the CD set
and listen to that set, without telling her about the guy.  She later told
me that she had to explain to her husband all about that evening, after
ROFL, as we say in the 21st Century.

What was once a trigger for anger becomes a bookmark for affectionate
memory.  Perhaps Mr. Fripp will someday think of such and just chuckle a
bit.

And now back to my coffee.

Steve Goodman
* EarthLight Productions
* http://www.earthlight.net

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:00:58 +0100
From: Pascal Samain <psamain at aibf dot be>
Subject: 21st century schizoid band

Somewhere in Belgium.

I was lucky enough to see the grand fa'show in Belgium last october.
I discovered KC when i was 15, I'm now 45. Nostalgia ! It was to be the
first time ever i'd see men like Peter Giles, Mel Collins, Ian Mac Donald or
Ian Wallace.

First impression : looking for a restaurant before the show, my friend Dan
and I met Peter Giles in the streets. He looks like an old tramp : old
socks, old trousers, long hairs, old shoes. What's on a man's mind, would
Freud say, when he comes back to play music again ? Dan recognize him. How
is it possible ? On the inner sleeve of the reissued Mc Donald and Giles
cd, they all look so young and hippie ... A little : Hi Peter ! When we met
Peter Hammill in Utrecht's streets last year, it has been the same : Hi
Peter ! And the same astonishment from the musician.

But the show must go on.

9 o clock. Ian Mc Donald looks like an office's employe. He's a very little
man with glasses. Peter Giles is now dressed in white, a kind of smoking for
and imaginary Oscar's ceremony. Mel collins still wears the same chain you
can see on KCCC's sleeve's around his neck. And Ian ? Short hairs, muscles,
black glasses. The new guitarist is the child in the family : a little bit
fat, very sympa', long black hairs probably oiled or something. He sings
very well, but not as great as a guitarist, even if you accept he's not RF
of course.

The music is saxo based. Compared to KC originals, it's more groovy, less
rock, less on the edge. And sax, sax, sax. I mean all what RF left along
the road : romantism, jazz, groove, sax sax sax. The playlist was plugged
on the 69/74 years, a very good 21st SM, and the big surprise :
Starless. Yesssss !  The only tune that makes me cry each time, with
another Peter Hammill one.  My friend Dan did buy their cds. Sadly of bad
sound quality I found. And their own compositions aren't that good ... A
little bit passe-partout.

Cheers.

Pascal

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:12:28 +0100
From: Burning Shed <burning dot shed at virgin dot net>
Subject: 21st Century Schizoid Band - Live In Italy

Available previously only on the band's recent tour of Europe and Japan,
this CD features over an hour of music. Captured live in Italy in March of
2003, this documents the band's new era with drummer and former Crimson
member Ian Wallace. As well as five Crimson tracks, a live rendition of the
McDonald / Sinfield tune `Let there be light', McDonald and Giles's
`Birdman', there is an additional bonus track - a new Schizoid piece
currently being performed live, but included here in its studio recorded
demo form and featuring all the band.

This album is available now priced #12.00 (including VAT) from the band's
online shop on Burning Shed:

We also have copies of the Schizoid's Official Bootleg Volume One, and
several tour t-shirts.

Regards,

burning dot shed at virgin dot net
www.burningshed.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:55:15 -0600 (CST)
From: TIMOTHY GUEGUEN <ad058 at sfn dot saskatoon dot sk dot ca>
Subject: Re: Freebird

>
> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:22:01 -0600
> From: Jon Buckley <jonbuckley at wideopenwest dot com>
> Subject: Re: Freebird
>
> The inappropriate shouting of Freebird may have started in Chicago.
> Years ago, popular DJ Kevin Matthews used to mimic the stupid slobs at
> shows yelling for songs by yelling for the wrong songs for the wrong
> bands. Of course he would exhort his listeners to do likewise. Freebird
> became the obvious choice to denote cluelessness. This works on so many
> levels. It's a comment on rock audiences, and especially audiences who
> might actually attend a Skynard show. This is not my doing, I'm just
> reporting, so don't blame me.

One of the classic examples of shouting an inapproiate song title at a gig
happened to Frank Zappa in the early '70s, in Finland if I'm not mistaken.
During a gig a drunken fan shouted for "Whipping Post," an Alman Brothers
tune.  Being the smartass that he was Zappa decided to be ready for any
such future requests, and he had the band work up a version of the song,
which they incorporated into their set.

tim gueguen 101867

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:46:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: Bryce Sutherland <black_sabbath86 at yahoo dot co dot uk>
Subject: Photos

Sorry if this has been asked loads of times, but why are King Crimson so
against photos being taken?

I'm relatively new to the music of King Crimson, and didn't think much of
the thing on the official KCrimson site saying that there were no photos
allowed to be taken... only when I bought Three Of A Perfect Pair and heard
the Barbershop Quartet and it says "No photos please..." I realised it must
be a really big thing for them... can anyone help me?

Bryce

Visit my site: www.bryce.uni.cc

[ Please reply to this post PRIVATLY, not on ET --Thanks, Toby ]

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:57:42 -0700
From: "Moshier, John T" <jmoshier at maazlaw dot com>
Subject: Larks' Birds in Freestick, In the Wake of the Gunn

Hello all you participants in the wake for the recently departed Trey Gunn.
    Couple of random thoughts on recent threads:
    "Freebird."  I believed this actually originated in the early '70s with
concert goers calling for "Whipping Post" by the Allman Brothers Band.  You
can hear it on Live at Filmore East by the Allmans, and I have a recorded
shout for "Whipping Post" on an album by another band, it might be on the
Derek and the Dominoes live album.  I have no idea how it transformed into
"Freebird," although the Allman Brothers and Lynard Skynard are both blues
influenced Southern jam bands.
    "Larks' Tongues in Aspic."  Whatever it means (probably nothing) it is
the best title for a King Crimson Album and has the best album cover
artwork, imho.  The back window of my Miata sports a LTIA sticker and the
Phish logo as the only bumper sticker type things on my car.  Both were
chosen for their pleasing aesthetic statements as well as my unqualified
respect for the musicianship and creativity of the two bands.
   On Trey's departure:  I haven't been so disappointed since RF disbanded
KC in '74 after reupping Ian McDonald and recording Red.  Every time I
listen to the studio version of Starless with the brilliant sax work  by
McDonald and Mel Collins, I find myself aching for what might have been.  I
feel the same way about Trey leaving.  It seems impossible to overstate what
he brought to the band with his consummate muscianship and tasteful,
melodious solos.  No mere bass player can give us Deception of the Thrush.
If the band continues at this juncture, it will necessarily undergo an
evolution in sound.  Listening to the gamelin inspired Power to Believe
(which I hope is the precurser of things to come rather than a one-off foray
into exotic textures) leaves me hoping the present direction of the band
will not be completely derailed.
   On the topic of replacements, I have seen mention of TLev, Greg Lake,
John Wetton and even Gordon Haskel, but no Boz.  Sounds like Boz is in need
of a bring back Boz fan club.
   Seriously,  Tony Levin is the only possible fit.
   While we're all wondering, remember that crying in your beer can enhance
its flavor.
                                               John Moshier.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:18:44 -0500
From: "m.k. smith" <thrak7 at usadatanet dot net>
Subject: LTiA Tiile

Regarding the discussion of the title, LTiA:  Way back when I was first
lambasted with this record I was curious enough to look it up and find out
the gelatinous meat juice nature of aspic. I also had a girlfriend in the
late 70s that went to a Parisian cooking school, and as we walked the
streets she commented on the various foods in the windows covered in aspic.
Later I became a fan of the I,Claudius books (and PBS series) I found a
reference to Larks' Tongues in Aspic in one of the books (I think the
first), as one of the foods being served at one of those ostentatious Roman
banquets. (Seems to me you'd need an awful lot of larks. If you listen
closely it seems you can hear the tongues being pulled out with needlenose
pliers. It is a faint screeching noise that comes and goes.) I wish I could
remember the page number, but I guarantee it is in there. So we can assume
aspic coated dishes have been around several thousand years?... On another
note, I was so enthralled by the cover design of the record I researched the
subject of Tantra extensively. (It was done by Tantra Designs in London,
which I believe was recently bought out.) At any rate I have incorporated
Tantric Buddhism in my life for decades now, and it is very much a part of
me, all started by this wonderful album. (and contrary to popular belief
Tantra is not just about sex!)  Matthew K. Smith
P.S: Personally I think Trey Gunn is a jerk for leaving King Crimson,
especially at this juncture, but that is only my opinion, and it does not
seemed to be shared by anyone else.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:12 -0500
From: "Brian Kelley" <karaokelley at earthlink dot net>
Subject: Re: Lark's Tongue Puzzlement

Bryce wrote:

>
> "Someone please help me.  For a while I always thought the title was
> Lark's Tounge in Aspec and for some cheeky reason they simply dropped the
T
> and meant aspect, which to me makes sense."
>
> It's still not the clearest title in the world though is it?
>

>From Chapter 7, page 159 in the Sid Smith biography:

..."But Muir did coin a phrase with a significance belying the off-the-wall
nature of its creation.  When asked to describe the music they were making,
Muir came up with 'Larks' Tongues in Aspic'.  Fripp not only appropriated
this as the title for two compositions but recognised it instantly as the
title of the album, as it graphically represented for him the descent of
spirit into form, encapsulating the notion of something very precious and
delicate held within heavy matter."

(Wow, that's pretty deep!...)

When I first explored KC and read that title, I thought "Aspic" was like an
ancient language, like Latin or something - you know, like spoken "tongues"
in the "Aspician" dialect (hee).

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:22:11 -0500
From: "Brian Kelley" <karaokelley at earthlink dot net>
Subject: Re: Trey leaving

When my friend asked me a couple of weeks ago, "Uh, guess who left King
Crimson?", I knew it could only be one of THREE answers, seeing without
Fripp, it would "cease to exist" (a familiar term in '74 KC lore).

I thought, "Hmmm, Adrian, Pat, or Trey..."  But I thought maybe it was
Adrian, so I answered "Adrian?"  Then he answered back, "Trey."

I was quite surprised at his departure, but wasn't totally blown away.  Nor
am I taking his leaving too painfully, as some others have on ET.
Apparently, Trey has served quite a long time with KC, longer than easily
80-85% of any past members.  As far as with bassists, he's "outlived" Peter
Giles (1970), Gordon Haskell (1970), AND Boz Burrell (1971) by 8 years each,
Greg Lake by 7 years (1969-70), and John Wetton (1972-74) by 6 years.  This
is even including Trey and KC's interim period from 1997-2000, when they
weren't touring as KC, but only as the various ProjeKct lineups.  Of course,
Tony Levin (1981-84, 1994-1996) is the closest one to Trey as far as KC
longevity.  So in essence, I guess then Trey HAS indeed served the longest
tenure as bassist/stick player in KC.

I'm sure some people reading his post on www.treygunn.com may have misread
or misinterpreted his message, his reason for leaving.

..."Musicians, in general, follow their instincts. Following my own, I have
found myself constantly on the move. I have played so many different
instruments, and even when I finally found my home on the touch-style string
instruments, I still kept moving. From different string configurations to
different tunings to different roles as a player. Rarely have I stayed
anywhere longer then a year or two. It seems that once I have done
something, then I have done it. And all that is left, then, is to drop it
and move on to something else."

On the surface, it seems that he wishes to do more with his own music, be a
little more free and less inhibited as he may have felt with KC.  I'm sure
being part of the great, legendary KC takes a special talent, musicianship,
and of course, "discipline", to fit rightly into the mold.  And I'm sure
being in such a band, you may be restricted in some ways - morely within the
band and having to partially suppress some of your individualism at the
expense of the leader.  Not to say that's the reason he's left, I'm sure he
wants to go out and explore new frontiers with his music, and perhaps even
focus more on his OWN band.

I hope that there is no animosity between him and Fripp.  My friend and I
just thought it was almost too coincidental for him to do it right after
this recent tour.  But then again, maybe in hindsight, it WAS the most
appropriate time for Trey to "make his move".  Deep down, I am sure that
Fripp has given Trey his best wishes in Trey's decision.  If one felt they
had given all that they can give, or if they feel another "calling" in their
musical or personal lives, then Robert would be totally understanding and
supportive.  (Fripp would have equally been understanding of Jamie Muir's
spiritual awakening had EG Records not lied to him about the true reason of
Muir's departure.  That's also in the book!)

 It obviously wasn't just an overnight decision for Trey.  I'm sure he was
thinking about it even before this last tour began, though it wasn't too
weighted on his mind to have affected his performances.  When you've
committed nine years of your life to a band, or to one's work, it's not easy
to just pack up and say goodbye.  Yet Fripp is all too familiar with members
coming and going, though this recent lineup has been constant for quite a
while, including with Bruford and Levin as the double trio.

Speaking of which, I would definitely favor and welcome Tony back into the
band.  Of course, that's Tony's choice to make, and knowing he's always busy
with other projects and tours, including this past Peter Gabriel tour, who
knows what he'll do.  Hey, maybe that means they'll do some more 80's-era
KC!!!! :)   Or heck, maybe it's time to pass the torch along to another
"unknown" musician, most likely somebody within the circle of Guitar Craft.

One thing's for sure, it won't be the same hearing another voice for
"Deception of the Thrush".  The Warr guitar is definitely unique and not
many people can play it like Trey.  Still, KC will continue on - that is,
for how ever long Fripp wishes.  Are we getting near "the incline to
2004"???  We must stay tuned to find out.  In the meantime, I wish the best
for Trey and his future endeavors.

Peace and Krimso,
Brian

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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:32:51 +0000
From: "David Reilly" <crispycat at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Fripp Live with Bowie 2003

Apparently Robert Fripp was introduced to the audience at Friday's gig in
Glasgow by David Bowie and proceeded to add his guitar to "Heroes", Fashion
and various other songs.  Was anyone there?

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