Errors-To: admin at elephant-talk dot com Reply-To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Sender: moderator at elephant-talk dot com Precedence: bulk From: moderator at elephant-talk dot com To: newsletter at elephant-talk dot com Subject: Elephant Talk #1037 E L E P H A N T T A L K The Internet newsletter for Robert Fripp and King Crimson enthusiasts Number 1037 Friday, 27 September 2002 Today's Topics: King Crimson Italia Re: Proper pronunciation Defence for "Lizard" King Crimson: A Band in Mourning? Crimson Music that I hate/love 21CSM vocal distortion on USA Shizoid epic/Peter Gabriel KC at the library Thela Hun Ginjeet Brian Mafi's Red Nightmare Pschedelics/Berkeley 2001 Sailor's Tale Tull-Bashing, They won ! Dissent and sin KC in south africa Scottish lessons; try and sell me; the first time I heard Random notes Re: Ow To Say It (McLaughlin) Proper GIG REVIEW: 21st Century Schizoid Band, Liquid Rooms, Edinburgh, 22nd Sept. ------------------ A D M I N I S T R I V I A --------------------- POSTS: Please send all posts to newsletter at elephant-talk dot com To UNSUBSCRIBE, or to CHANGE ADDRESS: Send a message with a body of HELP to admin at elephant-talk dot com or use the DIY list machine at http://www.elephant-talk.com/list/ To ASK FOR HELP about your ET subscription: Send a message to: help at elephant-talk dot com ET Web: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Read the ET FAQ before you post a question at http://www.elephant-talk.com/faq.htm Current TOUR DATES info can always be found at http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/tourdates.shtml You can read the most recent ten editions of ET at http://www.elephant-talk.com/newsletter.htm THE ET TEAM: Toby Howard (Moderator), Dan Kirkdorffer (Webmaster) Mike Dickson (List Admin), and a cast of thousands. The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. ET is produced using John Relph's Digest system v3.7b (relph at sgi dot com). ------------------ A I V I R T S I N I M D A --------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:05:37 +0200 From: "umberto f" Subject: King Crimson Italia Hi all, a new King Crimson mailing list is born in Italy for italian-speakers; it's site is http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/kingcrimsonitalia/ ; e-mail to: kingcrimsonitalia at yahoogroups dot com Ciao a tutti, e nata una nuova mailing list italiana sui King Crimson : http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/kingcrimsonitalia/ ; Invia messaggio: kingcrimsonitalia at yahoogroups dot com Bye! Umberto ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:44:29 -0300 From: Michael Hackett Subject: Re: Proper pronunciation On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:07:19 -0700 "Mike Powers" wrote: > Peart Not sure about this one! I'm guessing it's /prt/. I'm not sure how to write it phonetically, but Peart is with a long 'e' sound, like "peert". Lots of people say that one wrong (including the host on Rockline the one time Neil was on). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:09:30 -0700 From: desertbuttons at juno dot com Subject: Defence for "Lizard" Aloha, I see a lot of people badmouthing Lizard here. I'm sure there are many others like myself who love the album. I admit that when I first heard it, I was a bit disappointed with the vocals, but with each listening, I grow more comfortable with them. I hear the correlations between all the instruments, which form a brilliant tapestry of sound. It weaves through a plethora of emotions , at times dark, haunting, and forbidding, at others lighthearted and carefree. It is disturbingly dissonent at points, but with an open ear and open mind, the beauty and girth of the music becomes mind-blowingly known.0--- I would have to say that Lizard is one of my favourite Crimson albums(but aren't they all incredible in their own way? Aloha, Bryan Cowell My band: http://weareincomplete.com _\|/_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:05:43 -0300 From: "Jonathan Boulter" Subject: King Crimson: A Band in Mourning? So, I just received Level 5 in the mail today (lovely work). And as I'm listening to The Deception of the Thrush I realize that it's the fourth version of that tune I have (it makes me think of what Freud said about repetition compulsion). What's interesting is that the lyrical content from T.S. Eliot's The Waste Land changes from performance to performance (as it should). I got to thinking about the choice of Eliot's poem. It is of course the central statement in modern poetry: (1922, the year it was published, is also the year that Joyce's Ulysses was published: so it's a central year for poetry and prose). I teach the poem, fragmented, anxious, nervous as it is about its own status as poetry, as an almost perfect example of mourning, or melancholy (not the same thing, as Freud tells us, but I think the poem can--should--be read both ways). The poem clearly is a response to the Great War, as all the images of waste and burial suggest. It is also perhaps a desperate means to find a way of writing poetry (or creating any art) after the Armageddon of the war (I'm reminded of Adorno's statement about art's impossibility after the Holocaust). So I ask, why has Crimson picked this piece of poetry to use? Nothing is accidental in art (remember Barthes: "Everything means, or nothing does") and so I wonder why Gunn chooses this piece. Did he encounter the poem in some class and just think it cool? (It is, of course) Or does it speak to larger concerns in the band? Does the idea of waste hold some attraction for the band? Was it, simply, that Eliot's voice, arid, dry as a wasteland itself, struck some chord? Sorry about the length, but these are questions that occur to me. Jonathan Boulter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:59:38 -0300 From: "The Necron Stratomailer" Subject: Crimson Music that I hate/love Hummm.... I wouldn't say I 'hate' any songs.... But I certainly do NOT like "The Devil's Triangle". It just seems as a 'tritonic flush' of mellotron combined with one or two drum rudiments. Not that it doesn't work or doesn't make sense (it scared the hell out of me every single time I listened to it!), but I don't really think it's good or enjoyable. I understand a lot of people like this one tho.... I'd like to know why (Yes I would!). I would put it in the same level as The Beatles' "Revolution 9", except that "Devil's..." is a bit more... Humm, "musical". Actually, there's very little of the first 3 or 4 albums that I like. Too much mellotron! I can live without the lack of guitar playing, tho... My 'favorite' songs from those albums would be "21st Century Schizoid Man", "Pictures of a City", "Cat Food", "The Sailor's Tale" and maybe.... Humm, no, that's it. "In the Court of the Crimson King" is nice too but too long for its own sake. Oh, I always liked "Prince Rupert Awakens" from Lizard. Jon Anderson does a great job in there. > I always liked the way early Crim flew >apart (coda to "Schizoid Man," closing bars of "Pictures of a City") ... If I get what you're saying, then I always loved that too. I never heard a band plunge into chaos quite like KC does.... I mean... In Larks Pt2, after the main riff and the crescendo in the end.... WHAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!! Right between the eyes. Robert's 'rusty bandsaw' guitar chords going into infinity, Bill's chaotic cymbal crashing.... Astounding. Apart from the stuff I mentioned above, I love most of KC's stuff. And I have a particular fondness for Ade's ballads ("Matte Kudasai", "One Time", etc.). But other than that I don't have much to say... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:20:50 -0300 From: Diderot de Britto Subject: 21CSM vocal distortion on USA Continuing Adam's thread (ET#1035), since the first time I listened 21CSM from USA (25 years ago), I thougth the "vocal distortion" was a remix problem or master (lack of) quality. When I got my remastered USA copy I discovered that this effect was intentionally put on the remix. It is still weird for me. But you can find the same song, from the same concert (Providence), but WITHOUT the vocal distortion (a clean mix) in The Great Deceiver box (disc 2). Although 21CSM from original USA is not from Asbury Park, I think they could have put THAT performance in "USA remastered". This performance can be found only in the "Schizoid Man" EP, I think. It's a little longer than on Providence, and is still great! Best regards, Diderot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:04:40 +0100 From: Sandy Starr Subject: Shizoid epic/Peter Gabriel Am I the only one to have noticed the exciting goings-on in the Vicar's diary on the DGM website? Amid the Vicar's dry English humour and jogging anecdotes, you will find the following two passages: - 'A passing thought at 10.25 regarding the cyclical nature of the solo section in Schizoid Man (the same opening and closing phrases), had led by 5 o'clock to a finished 50 minute album, built entirely on Schizophrenic guitar and saxophone solos. Fripp is finally playing the long, prog guitar solo of which he is frequently accused : An all you can eat SCHIZOID MAN to accompany LADIES OF THE ROAD.' - 'Singleton is mastering my Schizoid Man epic today, and I look forward to hearing the results tomorrow.' What can we conclude from this? That David Singleton and the Vicar are having some private fun, or that the Schizoid Man equivalent to the THRAKATTAK album is winging its way to our shelves? Who knows. Let's hope for the latter. On another subject, and I apologise for resurrecting this thread, I have bought and given a few listens to Peter Gabriel's new album UP, and it's very, very good. The kind of album that begs for headphones in the dark, the kind of album you can inhabit. Gabriel's clashing, clanking, percussive environments are not too dissimilar from Kclassic KC cacophony such as Sex, Sleep, Eat, Drink, Dream and The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum. UP also sounds similar to a lot of recent heavy and industrial music, but then again, listening it reminded me of how influential Gabriel has been in this area. Gabriel's third and fourth solo albums, back in the early 80s, both have a lot of clash and clank. They anticipate later work by Einsturzende Neubauten, Nine Inch Nails and others. I recommend UP wholeheartedly to all Gabriel and KC fans, and I also urge you to give the album a chance to grow on you - it's far too dense and varied to take it all in with one listening. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:59:35 +0000 From: "satan's right hand" Subject: KC at the library Hey kids, I'm bored and there's nothing to do but right to my pals at ET. Before this gets deleted, it has nothing to do with file-sharing... Someone made an analogy of the library and file-sharing. Well, it's funny because in my hometown(very small) there is a king crimson cd(I believe it's TOAPP). Also, in my current digs library I noticed online that they have some KC. Sometimes I forget that libraries have some great stuff. I don't go to them ever because I have so many books of my own that I haven't read. Since they have some KC though, and it's free, I think I'm going to have to check it out. So, my point is for those of you who don't have every album or are just getting started, check out the library. It may have something of value. Also, check out TROPIC OF CANCER. IT IS YOUR DUTY. Jeramaya "If we heard mortar shells, we'd cuss more in our songs and cut down the guitar solos." "Im going to the Fourth World. Its just like heaven, only better, because there arent any Christians." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:25:12 -0700 From: "jack" Subject: Thela Hun Ginjeet The Bonaroo music festival is releasing a dvd of the initial three day event. Les Claypools band leads off the disc with a cover of Thela Hun Ginjeet. Disc will be released on Oct. 22. Check out all the bands. Wish I had been there. PREORDER LIVE FROM BONNAROO DVD / VHS! The Live From Bonnaroo DVD / VHS is available for preorder at: http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?dept_id=641&band_id=297 DVD Special Features Include: - Widescreen Format - 5.1 Dolby, 5.1 DTS, Stereo - Artist Photo Gallery - Festival Performance Schedule w/ artist setlists and bios - Video Trailer - Bonnaroo Bonus Footage and Outtakes Bonnaroo and Sanctuary Records Group are proud to announce the line-up for the Live From Bonnaroo DVD / VHS, due out October 22nd. In the effort to compile the ultimate festival documentary we have sifted through over 75 hours of video to select the very best performances from the weekend. The track listing for the DVD is as follows in order of appearance: - Thela Hun Ginjeet - Les Claypool's Flying Frog Brigade - Ain't Nothin' But a Party - Dirty Dozen Brass Band - Time to Confess - Gov't Mule - Brain Liaters - Drums & Tuba - Roses are Free - Ween - Number Two - Col. Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains - Burn One Down - Ben Harper - Blue Indian - Widespread Panic - Tall Boy - Widespread Panic - Amazing Grace - Blind Boys of Alabama - Good Times - Robert Randolph with Luther Dickinson - What's His Name - Campbell Bros. - Cheek to Cheek With the Blues - The Del McCoury - B Song - Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer - Search - String Cheese Incident - Sugartown - North Mississippi Allstars - Rodeo Clowns - Jack Johnson - Nightingale - Norah Jones - Countdown - Jurassic 5 - Swing Low - The Del McCoury Band and DJ Logic - Shibuya - Galactic - Sugar Magnolia - Phil Lesh & Friends with very special quest Bob Weir - Tennessee Jed - Check Out Your Mind - Karl Denson - Buck It Like a Horse - Galactic and Little Rascals Brass Band - Push On 'Til the Day - Trey Anastasio Preorder the DVD / VHS at: http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?dept_id=641&band_id=297 Jack C. Maui, Hi. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 22:06:28 -0300 From: "The Necron Stratomailer" Subject: Brian Mafi's Red Nightmare Doh! So cool it frigin hurts. I'm kicked my own ass as I read your post. I play guitar (and I have my little handful of chops too) and I should love playing in your band... Except I live in the other corner of the world (Uruguay). However, if you're willing to send me plane tickets to go over there, I could show you my killer version of Red! (I think I've got that song covered from head to feet...except for the drum parts; I suck at drumming). Hmmpphh.......! Dammit. This post is senseless. I hope you find your band members (or enough $$$ to fly me there ^_^ ). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:40:27 -0700 From: desertbuttons at juno dot com Subject: Pschedelics/Berkeley 2001 Howdy.... The Construction of Light is a great album on acid. There is a lot of sonic texure to it that you don't hear at fist, but its a grand collage. Belew has this lovable insanity in his words and playing, and KC might be the first band ever to learn to construct light with sounds. The world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum! By the way, Anyone out there have a setlist (or, dare I ask, a recording) from the 08/10/2001 show KC played with Tool? It was my first time seeing both but certainly not the last! Happy Trails! Bryan Cowell http://weareincomplete.com (my band) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:45:50 +0000 From: "lawrence moseley" Subject: Sailor's Tale Hello all, A few observations on Sailors' Tale. I see that the Earthbound release is apparently the same as the Jacksonville 26 Feb 72 KCCC cd. It says so on the dates area on the covers. Comparing the (nearly) 15 min version (jam/ improv) on the KCCC cd with the compact (nearly) 5 min version on 'Earthbound' makes for two apparently different versions of the same material. Previously issued material anywhere?... Not a problem, just an observation... When I listen to this (particlarly the wonderful studio creation I wonder (at the 2.38 mark) if this was not the origin framework for 'The Great Deceiver'. Possibly a subjective thing but that moment of change in Sailors Tale makes me think that somebody thought that Sailor's Tale was a good idea that became lost with that lineup and perhpas it (the idea) might be resurrected in a later form. (Similar to the perceived rewrites of some more prominent material in later years perhaps?) Or not. Just a wild thought... Am very grateful for the Summit Studios cd as live material from the Islands line up seems to be at considerable variance with the effect of the, IMHO, very lovely 'Island's' album. Incidentally I do not see what is wrong with the some what negatively viewed Prelude: Song of Gulls. I see it as a distant cousin to perhaps Barber's Adagio for Strings. I do not equate it with that but it works in that area, again IMHO. there we are Cheers Lawrence n.p Soft Machine: Third ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:10:51 -0400 From: "Block Dog" Subject: Tull-Bashing, They won ! >It was ludicrous for Tull to beat Metallica for a hard rock Grammy, >and I like them! And I bet if Ian Anderson were candid, he would admit the >same. Nothing ludicrous about it, "Crest of A Knave" was the better album and while every song may not be the standard three chord thrash metal formula, I would choose it everytime. If you choose the winner based on sales alone, yes, Metallica would have won and this is where I applaude the voting body for placing quality over quantity for once. It was a sweet victory indeed for that album was almost never made. Were it not for a "petition" campaign to the label it was not to be. The original release contained the signatures of the petitioners on the inner sleeve. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:00:14 -0600 From: "Michael Cox" Subject: Dissent and sin Three cheers for Ryan Tassone. I couldn't agree more. One of the disturbing things about the KC fan base is the tendency in certain quarters towards cultism. First let me point out the hole in the "If you don't like what the band's doing now, you're no longer a fan" theory. A very recent interview with Rick Wakeman at Yesworld puts it well; he defends his loud dislike of some of Yes's directions by saying that he's a fan too, and a fan has the inalienable right to loudly like or dislike a particular direction a band takes. Just because there were versions of Yes that he hated doesn't mean he wasn't still a Yes fan. If he had "moved on", he wouldn't now be back in the band. KC is no different just because it's led by Robert Fripp. It's like Bach; I love the music but I ain't attending his church. Some of us who really do like KC in general genuinely and strongly dislike the current direction, and we have a perfect right to say so. If you don't like free speech, Move On to somewhere where it isn't a way of life. The problem is rampant conservatism, ironically; either toe the party line or you're out of the club. Well, sorry; many of us like and admire KC enough to wait and see what direction they choose next. We have no intention of "moving on", so quit telling us to as if you were Mr. Fripp's personal thought-police, rousting the vagrants. Dissent is never a sin, but rudeness always is. Let's ratchet down the rhetoric. "P3" Michael Cox ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:34:16 +0200 From: "Rael" Subject: KC in south africa hey. im only 17 and i just wanted to know if KC ever came to south africa? (or even africa for that matter) also, what are the damn chances of them peforming here? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:00:30 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: Scottish lessons; try and sell me; the first time I heard Fracture >It's not "McGlocklin" as Scott expected. I'm not actually sure how best to try and phonetically write how it should be said. It's not a "hard" ck sound as in lock. It's more of a soft, cat like hiss. If you press the back of you tongue against your palette and close your throat, so that no air can be pushed out, then, relax your tongue slightly so that it comes away from the back of the palette, letting air out slightly over and along the length of your tongue, it resembles the hiss of a cat. That's the sound your after. Chhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I think I know what you mean. Thanks Dougie. >I wanna start a band playing 73-74 era Crim music only. LTIA,SABB,Red. Well, I'm willing to do the ones that THAT band did...21CSM, Cat Food, maybe even ITCOTCK. Maybe even a coupla others. Not into ANY Boz era stuff, sorry. Try & sell me, though ;) Picture in your mind's ear the Starless band playing Sailor's Tale. Grinding mellotrons, Fripp's solo on the half-time part, and Cross taking Collins' solo at the beginning. I like the idea. What am I doing - still trying to produce a band that hasn't played together in 27 years. Hm. >What specific KC track brings to mind a special memory of the first time you heard it? The first time I heard Fracture I was listening to KNAC in Long Beach California, a great station in 1973 and 1974; but I was driving northward from San Diego and I could barely get the station. Every time I went down a hill, I would lose the signal, then I would drive myself nuts trying to get to the top of the next hill to restore the radio signal, so I could hear the next part of what was obviously (to me) a song from the successor to my favorite album at the time - Larks' Tongues in Aspic. >Also, I have seen a lot of posts regarding the USA disc remastering and complaining about the whole concert not being included... has anyone started complaints about Earthbound not even having additional tracks? This is Elephant Talk - it's never too early to start complaining. - S. np: Gentle Giant, The Missing Piece scottst at ohsu dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:05:30 EDT From: JohnWylam at aol dot com Subject: Random notes Hi, All -- I just wanted to write to second Albert Oller's comment about *USA.* Like him, I bought the CD for the same reason I originally bought the LP when it was originally released -- and which I loved. I get the same emotional response from the CD version, and the additional music is simply tremendous. OK -- the true and most diehard completist, in true Moravian terms, would want a recording of everything the band ever recorded. Come to think of it, that's an exciting thought. Just not practical in real-world terms. Remember Moravia's example of the best way to cure a headache? Cut off your head. Or empty your bank accounts, in this instance. For me, the matter of artists' choice as to what to release is part of the excitement. Sure, I'd love it if KC released complete recordings of the '73 show at Bayfront Center in St. Petersburg, FL, or the '74 show at Curtis Hixon Convention Center in Tampa (when John Wetton interjected a stanza from "In the Court" during the closing instrumental section of "Easy Money," earning him a taciturn stare from one Robert Fripp and looks of amazement from Bruford and Cross....truly a hilarious and unique moment), but I have it in memory, or if I wanted the boots badly enough, I suppose I could go and seek them out on eBay or some such. But the movie of that night, through the eyes of someone less than half my age now? You can't recreate that. Personally, I love the CD version of *USA.* I'm no KC apologist, mind, and would never want to become so, but in this case, as Albert rightly says, you already know what you're paying for. Either do it or don't. I also want to chime in about the Zoom Club recording. I've lived with it for a little while now, and the more I listen to it, the more I enjoy it. I'd always imagined that Jamie Muir's presence in the band would push it more in the direction of the Music Improvisation Company, but the unimaginably long (and equally satisfying) improv on disc one demonstrates something else entirely. Powerful music throughout. And as for *nuovo metal,* if the result is anything like the Nashville November recording, we're in for a good time. I'd rather hear something chancy and new, personally. BTW, folks, this is only tangentially a KC-related point, but if any of you happened to see the 2-hour opening episode of *West Wing,* there was an ELP reference, of all things! Aaron Sorkin, of course, is a staunch leftist, but I did not know he was prog fan as well; he actually wrote this line, spoken by Martin Sheen as President Jeb Bartlett during the "chaos" sequence in the Oval Office: "Welcome, my friend, to the show that never ends." I can't wait for the day some character on that series refers to "the rusted chains of prison moons" or....the mind reels. Stay tuned. It could happen. Be Well, Everybody -- John Wylam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:46:02 -0400 From: "Jim McLaughlin & Cheryl Bertolini" Subject: Re: Ow To Say It (McLaughlin) Proper "Dougie" wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:47:09 -0700 > From: "Scott Steele" >> I would defer to Mike Dickson here but since McLaughlin is Scottish I >> would expect that his name is pronounced McGlocklin. Although I'm second generation American, my grandfather hailed from County Longford, IRELAND. There are still quite a few McLaughlins there. >Being Scottish, I'd like to offer the correct pronunciation of the above >surname. It's not "McGlocklin" as Scott expected. >So you get McGlauchhhhhhhhlin. And Lochhhhhhhhhhh Ness, not Lock Ness. I wasn't going to touch this one, but Dougie's analogy is one I have used many times. The G is hardly there and is incidental mostly due to the tongue moving from the c to the L. The ck sound is as soft as one could possible sound it out. And I do believe that "lough" (laugh) is the Gailec for loch or lake depending on your flavor of English. At least this is what I was told many yeard ago. Also, McLoughlin is a prevalent alternate spelling or vice versa. Jim (McLaughlin) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:06:07 +0000 From: "Paul Dickinson" Subject: GIG REVIEW: 21st Century Schizoid Band, Liquid Rooms, Edinburgh, 22nd Sept. 2002 Just thought I'd drop a quick review of the 21stCSB gig at the Liquid Rooms, Edinburgh, 22nd September 2002. This was the first time I've been able to see a Crimson-related gig (despite being 40 and into Crimson since 1976, they've never played anywhere close enough to where I've lived). It was fantastic to see players I've admired for so long at such close quarters. I won't go through the full set list which has been mentioned in previous reviews but they started off with a marvellous version of A Man A City (or Pictures of a City - as Jakko said afterwards, depending on whose publishing company you're talking to). Mike and Peter Giles formed an awesome rhythm section with Ian McDonald and Mel Collins doubling up on alto and baritone sax, while Jakko Jaksyk did a wonderful job keeping up with Bob's intricate lines while still adding his own touches. Throughout the gig the band mebers did a great job complementing each other, having Ian and Mel in the band at the same time allows for a smoother flow than either of the incarnations of KC with just one of them (for example doubling up on flute for I Talk To The Wind, in the same way that the original is overdubbed). As well as doing a wonderful job of following Robert's guitar parts and putting in fine vocal performances, Jakko Jaksyk did a good job as front man (his quip about getting the job in the band as winner of Prog Idol was particularly well received). Throughout the gig it was clear that everyone was having a good time (you wonder why the Giles brothers in particular appear to have been away for such a long time), even when Ian struggling to gain control of his keyboard during Epitaph (he surely wouldn't have had so much of a problem if he'd taken up the offer of a Mellotron for the gig). Afterwards all of the band members were on hand to sign merchandise (they have a rehearsal CD for #10 which is of excellent quality - song list, 1. A Man A City, 2. Cat Food, 3. In The Court Of The Crimson King, 4. Formentera Lady, 5. Ladies Of The Road, 6. I Talk To The Wind, 7. 21st Century Schizoid Man). I picked up the rehearsal CD along with the rerelease of the McDonald & Giles album. I'm sure it goes without saying that if you're lucky enough to be anywhere near where they're playing then you should try and get along to sees them. ------------------------------ End of Elephant Talk Digest #1037 *********************************