Short shots on Elephant-Talk Digest #336:

Date: 10 Feb 97 12:04:17 EST
From: Discipline Global Mobile <73064 dot 1470 at CompuServe dot COM>
Subject: Short shots on Elephant-Talk Digest #336:
		Monday 10th. February, 1997.

Dear Team,

	Short shots on Elephant-Talk Digest #336:


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:56:28 -0500
From: future perfect <artmusic at gte dot net>
Subject: "Tribute" Question for Robert


        A few of us here on the list have been considering doing a tribute
cassette of sorts, featuring renditions of our favorite KC songs. This
would be distributed amongst ourselves with no exchange of money, and for
our own amusement. Do you have any comments/concerns about this project?


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:31:39 -0500
From: Mr-Neurotica <neurotica at videotron dot ca>
Organization: Neurotica Web Evolution
Subject: Crimson tribute

Hi ETers,

	Now.. many people were talking about a Crimson kinda "tribute" and if
i'm not mistaken there are many ETers who seems to b pretty interested in
such a thing and who are also musicians. Being a drummer myself and a
Bruford-sorta-maniac-kinda-dude for over 20 years, I would b *very*
interested in participating in such an adventure. What i propose would be
to work on a midi project where the participants would each lay down a
track and pass it on to the next guy and so on... until we have a finished
product. Not only we could do some interpretation but we could also have a
"B" side where we could indulge ourself in some
highly-crimson-influenced-material. (any midi guitar or bass player in the
croud??) And then we could put all of this on a web site for all the ETers
to enjoy!! I'd like to get your toughts on this project.


1. You don't need my permission to play any music that you'd like to play.
Go for it.

2. (This follows several concerns expressed in ET) no copyright permissions
for any Crimson pieces are needed, unless the material is
rearranged. Should there be any difficulties (with BMG Publishing) I am
happy to personally intervene.

3. I would ask: what is the aim of making a tribute album? The obvious
answer is, to give tribute to Crimson. That might not be the only motive or
intention and (without implying any criticism or censure) I would ask for
the aim to be clearly declared.

4. Do you play Crimson music, or new music "inspired by" or "influenced
by", or re-arranged Crimson music or ...?

5. There are different degrees of "tribute album". Are you aiming at a
cassette? A CD commercially marketed with global release?

6. How do you plan to record the album? ADATs are technically feasible, but
you get no immediate and personal interraction between the players.

7. How do you finance this?

8. How do you organise this? Who chooses the final tracks?

	An offer: if the "tribute album" convinces me musically, DGM will
release it. But, it has to viscerally activate my organs of
response. Factors: conceptual grasp, creative leaping, spirit, executant
capacity, quality of sound. Is this local, regional, national,
international or global quality musicianship?

	Please don't send me a turkey to be roasted.

	You also have to figure out who gets paid, and paid what.

	We are not able to process and listen to tapes submitted for the
project: someone else has to take that on. We don't have enough time to
keep up with our own current and future DGM projects.

	Suggestion: once you have tracks, find someone whose opinion you
trust and who is prepared to take decisions and make choices.


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:09:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Marc Roemer <mir1 at troi dot cc dot rochester dot edu>
Subject: nitpicky tidbits

MR: I've read in various places a quote of Robert saying the "Breathless"
middle section is in 3/3. I think he was either misquoted or joking, and
I'm surprised Eric Tamm included it in his book. There's no such thing as
3/3 time, because there's no such thing as a one-third note.  I counted it
as a repeating pattern of four measures: 11/8, 11/8, 11/8, 3/8. The last
two could be taken together as 14/8, an even measure following two odd
measures just like the main theme of "Red," 5/8, 5/8, 6/8.

RF: The signature is 13 + 13 + 13 + 3 over 8.

MR: ...when you listen to the LoG's "Heptaparaparshinokh," you will hear
the critical points.

RF: I wondered when someone would spot that.


From: charity%creighton dot edu at cs dot man dot ac dot uk
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:10:27 -0600 (CST)
Subject: a visit to the UK

CU: If Oxford University decides that I am worthy enough to study at their
Centre for Medieval and Renaissance Studies, I will be in the UK from the
end of June through the beginning of August. I would appreciate it if
anyone could notify me of any Crimson-related functions in the UK during
that time period.

Charity Upchurch

RF: The only scheduled performances are of Soundscapes. These are:

Saturday 31st. May 1997  12:00 - 20:00 The Chapel, Islington
	Contributions encouraged:a benefit for The Autistic Sociey
Monday - Thursday 2-5th. June  Salisbury Cathedral (probably daytime)
	As part of the Salisbury Festival and in aid of the Spire Appeal

	Yo! Dudes ...

	Boppin' Bobby.

Mike Stok