Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:59:08 -0700 From: Brian Mafi <Brian dot Mafi at mitchell dot com> Subject: Beating a New Crimson Thunderbird
Hello,
"GenoTT at aol dot com" writes in response to my Thunderbird inquiry:
"All right, since it's been asked, I'll speak up. KCNN radio has been playing all three (!) parts of Pat & Trey's 'Thunderbird' suite - a total of 40 minutes or so. And I have to say I like it more and more. It's not the kind of thing they'd just release an album of as-is, but it's a nice fascinating groove nonetheless. Imagine.. well, ProjeKct 3 without Fripp. The overall sound reminds me of the Heaven & Earth disc. Pat just thumps along with some steady beats, playing around with the electronic trappings from time to time, while Trey adds a nice floating bass line. (His tone reminds me of "Superbottomfeeder" - it's really sweet to hear.) Some occasional high-end is present, but it's largely a bass thing. Not much else to say.. just some straight jams. I do think it's good."
Geno, thanks for the input. I'm hoping they somehow get this out as a MP3, some sort of downloadable/purchase type deal. I play bass, so I'm always interested in Trey's musical offerings, as well as Pat's. Both of those guys transcend the trad. role of their instruments...well, Trey is treading the line between the guitar/bass sonic spectrum, and Pat with with his loops and programmed rhythms is MUCH more than yer average rock drummer. I'm dying to hear this 'Bird thing! I did send an e-mail to Pat, to which he kindly replied:
not sure mp3 is the thing to do at this moment. . not impossible. . . at a later date.
Jordan replied to my:
>Trey & Pat improvising for approx. 15 minutes in the studio, and NOBODY >here that claims to be a die-hard Crimson fan finds that worthy of >mention/discussion/praise/condemnation?!?!?!?
Jordan sez:
"I didn't get a chance to hear the Trey and Pat improv thing, nor do I check the websites that much. I wasn't even aware that there is a songlist available. Perhaps these things mean that I am not a DIEHARD Crimhead, though my friends might disagree. However, despite personally being apart of this problem, I also notice more indepth discussion of things non-Crim than things Crim a good deal of the time. However, had you posted this songlist I would have responded with my thoughts."
Jordan, I would never claim who is and who isn't a big fan of our Crim gents...I wuz just prodding, trying to get a reaction! Unfortunately, that white board photo is no longer in Pat's Diary...I'm not computersmart enough to be able to find/retrieve it...any takers? I think it had tunes we've seen/heard (Virtuous Circle, Level V, Dangerous Curves), but had MANY others, possibly Crimson Blue, etc.
Re: Beat; I was a solid Crim fan when that came out, and eagerly purchased it from Tower Records the day it came out at approx. 9:01am...they opened at 9:00! Actually, I got Beat AND Lone Rhino the same day...as Ice Cube once said, "today wuz a good day". Speaking for a vinyl record, I found the first side absolutely magnificent (yes, including Heartbeat), and "Neurotica" equally magnificent. I'll never forget putting on the 2nd side, and not hearing anything, turning it up rather loud, only to have the Neurotica beginning BLAST IN AND SCARE THE CRAP OUTTA ME!!! 2 Hands, The Howler, and Requiem didn't quite resonate with me at the time, but I've grown to enjoy them. However, I still feel that Neal& Jack & Me, Heartbeat, Sartori, and Waiting Man are an outstanding quartet of songs. Yes, it's somewhat like the Discipline album in construction, tones, styles. I could think of much worse music to be similar to...
P, L, BS,
Brian